Comments on: Karazhan attunement to be removed

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By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:25:23 +0000

I’m in favor of this for alts. I do think attunement is a good thing to get everyone on the same page so to speak. Its up to the guild to decide if they want to gear up a player and get him keyed. My hardcore raiding guild doesn’t do key runs, everyone is expected to get it on their own. But then again these people are serious about time and commiments. I do wish blizz would do something more about the huge leap between 10 man content and 25 man content, maybe like a 15 man instance in the next expansion. Or just have less 25 mans. So many guilds never get past kara and would like to, but finding 25 competent raiders is just too hard.

By: Kobay

Kobay — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:39:18 +0000

@Felkan

I hate when people assume that because they are doing TK/SSC with their guild, all guilds must be at the same point and lower content is “dead.”

Kara isn’t dead to me at all. I have the misfortune of working during the time that all the guilds on my server raid (4pm to 10pm) so I will most likely never see it.

By: SuraBear

SuraBear — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:17:15 +0000

All I can say is: What took them so long? They removed the T5 attunements. They took away the T6 Attunements. It was only a matter of time before they realized they forgot to remove the T4 attunement.

Seriously, though, I have to agree with others. This will only really be a problem if you PuG Karazhan, and even then the effects will be minor at most. I just wish they’d remove the attunements for the old world content (UBRS and the 40-man raids), seems like a logical thing to do.

By: Renchard

Renchard — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:42:07 +0000

Shadow Labyrinth, not Shadow Laboratory. Common mistake since everybody calls it Shadow Labs anyway.

By: Felkan

Felkan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:00:53 +0000

@Messyah:

Not sure it is really dumbiying the game, unless they nerf Kara (again) at the same time. It just makes it easier for casual players and noobies to see those instances at some point. My guild still runs old world 25-raids for fun, but the stupidly painful attunment requirements mean those that would like to go (just to check the place out), can’t.

Seems to be a good way to open up dead content. Yes, once 2.4 is released, Kara is dead to all but the most hard-core players who think they can get more badges per hour in Kara than some other 5-man. For others, it makes more sense to use the new 5-man and/or existing Heroics.

And if the next expansion is anything like BC, Kara grade gear will probably be replaced with quest rewards in the first zone. Only the T5/6 stuff will last longer.

By: Messyah

Messyah — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:24:22 +0000

Dude, getting that Timbermaw rep was pure f***ing EVIL!!!!!

By: Logan

Logan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:33 +0000

@Mess- Maybe this change will be better, then, for those of us who have ground (grinded?) the rep with KoT to get the enchants and the alchemy recipes. It’s the same reason why I spent so much time grinding Timbermaw rep to get the +agi enchant: not many people have it, so when people look for someone to do it and I can, they usually tip quite well… profit FTW!

By: Messyah

Messyah — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:29:20 +0000

This is just another example of Blizzard “dumbifying” the game so that when the expansion comes out, more people will be willing to buy it because they will feel that they are geared enough to quest to Level 80.

With that being said, I actually like this change simply because I will no longer have to get people keyed before getting them geared. But… I do have one concern. Without the need to run BM and OHB, those going into Kara may never put the time in to get rep with the Keepers of Time, and KoT has some nice stuff to offer.

By: Ard

Ard — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:26:47 +0000

This will certainly make it easier to get our alts into Karazhan. Net positive, in my book.

Oh, and psst…it’s Shadow Labyrinth, not Laboratory. Sorry, I’m an engineer, and we (I) can be positively anal about that kinda crap.