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		<title>By: Conquernfool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conquernfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great show in WI. I just finished listening to the podcast and loved it. It was a very crazy show with a lot of fun stuff. I don&#039;t think your points were received by Mike, but I think he was just trying to get you guys to say what he thought was the best tank in the game. Oh well, it is his show.  Good show and I hope you get to do more with them.

Conquernfool]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great show in WI. I just finished listening to the podcast and loved it. It was a very crazy show with a lot of fun stuff. I don&#8217;t think your points were received by Mike, but I think he was just trying to get you guys to say what he thought was the best tank in the game. Oh well, it is his show.  Good show and I hope you get to do more with them.</p>
<p>Conquernfool</p>
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		<title>By: Messyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always heard that Prot. Warriors are the best boss tanks and Prot. Paladins are the best mob tanks. Prot. Warriors get abilities like &lt;i&gt;shield wall&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;spell reflect&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;shield bash&lt;/i&gt;. With so many useful abilities, I can see why the are considered the best end-game boss tanks.

Paladins have their AOE, blessings and seals/judgements that accompany their AOE. Throw in some spell damage and you have a tank that can hold a large number of mobs while they are Seeded by Locks and AOE&#039;d by other casters.

So, where does that leave Feral Druids? According to most of whom I have asked this question, this is what they tell me...

Well, we can off-tank. We can effectively hold 3-mobs, more provided they are not being DPSed. We can change over to a DPS role when needed. We can spot-heal if desperately needed. But we will never be an MT and we will never be a group tank (if the group is more than 3.)

Well, as much as I agree with the role of Prot. Warriors and Paladins, I am here to tell you that I am very much MT-capable and have fulfilled that role on many occasions. Here are some of the bosses I have tanked...

1. Every boss in Karazhan
2. High-King Mulgar (Gruul&#039;s Lair)
3. Gruul the Dragonkiller (Gruul&#039;s Lair)
4. Void Reaver (TK - The Eye)
5. A&#039;lar (TK - The Eye)
6. Lurker (SSC)
7. Moragrim Tidewalker (SSC)
8. Leothoras the Blind (SSC)
9. Lord Karathress (SSC)
10. Nalorakk (Zul&#039;Aman)
11. Jan&#039;Alai (Zul&#039;Aman)
12. Halazzi (Zul&#039;Aman)
13. Hex Lord Malacrass (Zul&#039;Aman)

In addition, I have MT&#039;d every 5-man Heroic, including Shattered Halls, which is really where a Pally tank can showcase his abilities.

Btw, I am now rocking 2-Tier 4 pieces (Gloves and Helm) and 2-Tier 5 pieces (Shoulders &amp; Leggings) in my tank set. I broke the 30K unbuffed armor mark, I have 38% dodge unbuffed, but my defense is down to 398. I guess I am going to have to play with my sockets a bit. Plus, when I get rid of my last Heavy Clefthoof set piece (boots), I will lose even more defense, so it&#039;s getting tricky. If anyone has any suggestions, I&#039;d be glad to entertain them. :-)

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OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION: My guild was supposed to raid last night and did not have enough signed up. Because of that, we had 2 people leave the guild. Have you had this problem yet, BBB?

I mean, we are well organized. We use Group Calendar for event management and we use Suicide Kings Geo (SKG Geo) for loot distribution (Better than DKP IMHO), plus we have a well-designed website, and with all of that we still get people saying &quot;Oh, there is a raid tonight?&quot; or &quot;I forgot&quot; or &quot;I signed up last week but forgot to remove my named after I realized I wouldn&#039;t be good.&quot; - WTF?

Its to the point now where we are recruiting to over-fill spots and now to replace casualties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always heard that Prot. Warriors are the best boss tanks and Prot. Paladins are the best mob tanks. Prot. Warriors get abilities like <i>shield wall</i>, <i>spell reflect</i> and <i>shield bash</i>. With so many useful abilities, I can see why the are considered the best end-game boss tanks.</p>
<p>Paladins have their AOE, blessings and seals/judgements that accompany their AOE. Throw in some spell damage and you have a tank that can hold a large number of mobs while they are Seeded by Locks and AOE&#8217;d by other casters.</p>
<p>So, where does that leave Feral Druids? According to most of whom I have asked this question, this is what they tell me&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, we can off-tank. We can effectively hold 3-mobs, more provided they are not being DPSed. We can change over to a DPS role when needed. We can spot-heal if desperately needed. But we will never be an MT and we will never be a group tank (if the group is more than 3.)</p>
<p>Well, as much as I agree with the role of Prot. Warriors and Paladins, I am here to tell you that I am very much MT-capable and have fulfilled that role on many occasions. Here are some of the bosses I have tanked&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Every boss in Karazhan<br />
2. High-King Mulgar (Gruul&#8217;s Lair)<br />
3. Gruul the Dragonkiller (Gruul&#8217;s Lair)<br />
4. Void Reaver (TK &#8211; The Eye)<br />
5. A&#8217;lar (TK &#8211; The Eye)<br />
6. Lurker (SSC)<br />
7. Moragrim Tidewalker (SSC)<br />
8. Leothoras the Blind (SSC)<br />
9. Lord Karathress (SSC)<br />
10. Nalorakk (Zul&#8217;Aman)<br />
11. Jan&#8217;Alai (Zul&#8217;Aman)<br />
12. Halazzi (Zul&#8217;Aman)<br />
13. Hex Lord Malacrass (Zul&#8217;Aman)</p>
<p>In addition, I have MT&#8217;d every 5-man Heroic, including Shattered Halls, which is really where a Pally tank can showcase his abilities.</p>
<p>Btw, I am now rocking 2-Tier 4 pieces (Gloves and Helm) and 2-Tier 5 pieces (Shoulders &amp; Leggings) in my tank set. I broke the 30K unbuffed armor mark, I have 38% dodge unbuffed, but my defense is down to 398. I guess I am going to have to play with my sockets a bit. Plus, when I get rid of my last Heavy Clefthoof set piece (boots), I will lose even more defense, so it&#8217;s getting tricky. If anyone has any suggestions, I&#8217;d be glad to entertain them. :-)</p>
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OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION: My guild was supposed to raid last night and did not have enough signed up. Because of that, we had 2 people leave the guild. Have you had this problem yet, BBB?</p>
<p>I mean, we are well organized. We use Group Calendar for event management and we use Suicide Kings Geo (SKG Geo) for loot distribution (Better than DKP IMHO), plus we have a well-designed website, and with all of that we still get people saying &#8220;Oh, there is a raid tonight?&#8221; or &#8220;I forgot&#8221; or &#8220;I signed up last week but forgot to remove my named after I realized I wouldn&#8217;t be good.&#8221; &#8211; WTF?</p>
<p>Its to the point now where we are recruiting to over-fill spots and now to replace casualties.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellwether</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellwether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AMG. &quot;I hear you saying prot warriors are the best...&quot;

l2listen, imo

okay, Bear, I stayed up past my bedtime to listen to this. And I have no complaints. Keep doing it. Yay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMG. &#8220;I hear you saying prot warriors are the best&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>l2listen, imo</p>
<p>okay, Bear, I stayed up past my bedtime to listen to this. And I have no complaints. Keep doing it. Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: gt</title>
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		<dc:creator>gt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike needs the stuffing taken out of him now and then. He is mean to Paladins. &lt;.&lt; Good show BBB!

As for addons... the sooner the patch comes... the sooner our addons break... and the sooner they are forced to be fixed! :D (I was really hoping for a long Easter weekend on Sunwell Isle. Oh well!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike needs the stuffing taken out of him now and then. He is mean to Paladins. &lt;.&lt; Good show BBB!</p>
<p>As for addons&#8230; the sooner the patch comes&#8230; the sooner our addons break&#8230; and the sooner they are forced to be fixed! :D (I was really hoping for a long Easter weekend on Sunwell Isle. Oh well!)</p>
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		<title>By: Trackhoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trackhoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OH

MY

GOD

He deserves every last ribbing you gave him. &gt;:D

And it was good times. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH</p>
<p>MY</p>
<p>GOD</p>
<p>He deserves every last ribbing you gave him. &gt;:D</p>
<p>And it was good times. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably not what you were looking for but... I approve of the Brit. _&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably not what you were looking for but&#8230; I approve of the Brit. _&gt;</p>
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