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	<title>Comments on: Storytime! A surfer&#8217;s tail</title>
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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Doc Kro</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-10446</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Kro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Devil.

We try.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Devil.</p>
<p>We try.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Beowulfa</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>Beowulfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh I had the same fear of swimming pools and I still don&#039;t like them.  Though I was older when I saw the movie (and wasn&#039;t born yet when Jaws came out) it had a profound effect on me.  I simply won&#039;t go into the ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh I had the same fear of swimming pools and I still don&#8217;t like them.  Though I was older when I saw the movie (and wasn&#8217;t born yet when Jaws came out) it had a profound effect on me.  I simply won&#8217;t go into the ocean.</p>
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		<title>By: Grinal</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4777</link>
		<dc:creator>Grinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding crushing blows : At face value what Argonaut says is true. Warriors can push crushing blows off their hit table. However, what this neglects is mitigation. I get crushed for less than a warrior gets hit normal. My normal hits are (obviously) even less than that.

This none the less does not change the part that argo and I agree on. Nothing stops you from succesfully main tanking this fight, but you will be more helpful as an OT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding crushing blows : At face value what Argonaut says is true. Warriors can push crushing blows off their hit table. However, what this neglects is mitigation. I get crushed for less than a warrior gets hit normal. My normal hits are (obviously) even less than that.</p>
<p>This none the less does not change the part that argo and I agree on. Nothing stops you from succesfully main tanking this fight, but you will be more helpful as an OT.</p>
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		<title>By: Argonaut</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4775</link>
		<dc:creator>Argonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.)A warrior will be able to remove crushing blows entirely and therefore the spike  damage will be far less not to mention O-shit options like last stand. 

2.)A warrior OT relies more on getting hit to generate rage, a druid OT with 2 pc T4 will have very few issues with threat generation and hence stay second in aggro. And besides druids crit a lot more than equally geared warrior tanks and hence will have little to no rage problems. If I do, I go and stand under a cave in for one tick (don&#039;t tell your healers that, they may hate you for it). 

3.) Lastly and most importantly and also why druids make excellent off-tanks. The Hurtful Strike cannot crit, and cannot be a crushing blow, so all the OT needs is armor, health, and threat generation. Druids don&#039;t have to rely on getting hit to generate rage like warriors do, and their typical gear will give them very high dodge as well. 

There you have it, the reasons you should OT. I have tanked Gruul for the last 40%, arguably much harder than the first 60% and lived, therefore I feel that you can easily main tank gruul, but your raid would be so much better served with you as the OT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.)A warrior will be able to remove crushing blows entirely and therefore the spike  damage will be far less not to mention O-shit options like last stand. </p>
<p>2.)A warrior OT relies more on getting hit to generate rage, a druid OT with 2 pc T4 will have very few issues with threat generation and hence stay second in aggro. And besides druids crit a lot more than equally geared warrior tanks and hence will have little to no rage problems. If I do, I go and stand under a cave in for one tick (don&#8217;t tell your healers that, they may hate you for it). </p>
<p>3.) Lastly and most importantly and also why druids make excellent off-tanks. The Hurtful Strike cannot crit, and cannot be a crushing blow, so all the OT needs is armor, health, and threat generation. Druids don&#8217;t have to rely on getting hit to generate rage like warriors do, and their typical gear will give them very high dodge as well. </p>
<p>There you have it, the reasons you should OT. I have tanked Gruul for the last 40%, arguably much harder than the first 60% and lived, therefore I feel that you can easily main tank gruul, but your raid would be so much better served with you as the OT.</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbie</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4768</link>
		<dc:creator>Gibbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goblin rocket launcher.   Nuf said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goblin rocket launcher.   Nuf said.</p>
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		<title>By: Grinal</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4762</link>
		<dc:creator>Grinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually OT gruul as a bear, but I have MT it as well with no problem.  Others are right, we really shine as OT, cause we can keep the threat up high while OT, and can eat the strikes.

Good MT/OT bear tips for gruul : 

Bind bear form and feral charge to keys, as well as barkskin.   When you get tossed out in the air, barkskin (you can do this midair!) then when you land, bear, and feral charge gruul.  

This has several effects. 1) 20% less damage, 2) back in range of gruul to re-establish agro right away, 3) feral charge brings you to the middle of the room, everyone else is spreading out around the edges as fast as they can. This helps get you away from your healers so the shatter doesn&#039;t kill them.  

sometimes I wait on the feral charge until after the shatter, because gruul keeps moving when you are completely frozen. That way you are guaranteed to be in range right after. But both methods work.

Tree/moonkin druids should definitely barkskin every shatter too, and if they have spare mana, can even go to bear to give them more HP and help reduce the chances of dying to shatter.

General MT/OT strat  : make sure you are moving out of the rockfall, it will help your healers out a lot.

As for why warrior is better MT, there is no reason (Other than normal access to oh-shit buttons). Druid is just as good of a MT on this fight. However, warrior make a much WORSE OT than a druid does, because they can&#039;t keep up the threat as high when they aren&#039;t getting hit regularly.

My tanking suggestions above are identical as MT or OT. Just make sure you don&#039;t pull agro from the Mt (which I do regularly, especially at the start, with a well/poorly timed crit on the opening maul&amp;mangle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually OT gruul as a bear, but I have MT it as well with no problem.  Others are right, we really shine as OT, cause we can keep the threat up high while OT, and can eat the strikes.</p>
<p>Good MT/OT bear tips for gruul : </p>
<p>Bind bear form and feral charge to keys, as well as barkskin.   When you get tossed out in the air, barkskin (you can do this midair!) then when you land, bear, and feral charge gruul.  </p>
<p>This has several effects. 1) 20% less damage, 2) back in range of gruul to re-establish agro right away, 3) feral charge brings you to the middle of the room, everyone else is spreading out around the edges as fast as they can. This helps get you away from your healers so the shatter doesn&#8217;t kill them.  </p>
<p>sometimes I wait on the feral charge until after the shatter, because gruul keeps moving when you are completely frozen. That way you are guaranteed to be in range right after. But both methods work.</p>
<p>Tree/moonkin druids should definitely barkskin every shatter too, and if they have spare mana, can even go to bear to give them more HP and help reduce the chances of dying to shatter.</p>
<p>General MT/OT strat  : make sure you are moving out of the rockfall, it will help your healers out a lot.</p>
<p>As for why warrior is better MT, there is no reason (Other than normal access to oh-shit buttons). Druid is just as good of a MT on this fight. However, warrior make a much WORSE OT than a druid does, because they can&#8217;t keep up the threat as high when they aren&#8217;t getting hit regularly.</p>
<p>My tanking suggestions above are identical as MT or OT. Just make sure you don&#8217;t pull agro from the Mt (which I do regularly, especially at the start, with a well/poorly timed crit on the opening maul&amp;mangle)</p>
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		<title>By: Bumwaller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bumwaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no thoughts on the Gruul fight - I&#039;m a resto type adn haven&#039;t gotten that far yet.  However, I can tell you that while boogie boarding in Diego Garcia (the Footprint of Freedom, look it up) while on deployment I was stung by a Portuguese Man of War.   It didn&#039;t really hurt until i got out of the water and then it stung like crazy.  The Corpsman threw some meat tenderizer on it and gave me a shot of something he pulled from under the counter - apparently this happens a lot.   But you are right, you don&#039;t want to bawl like a baby, we&#039;re tough - but damn that hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no thoughts on the Gruul fight &#8211; I&#8217;m a resto type adn haven&#8217;t gotten that far yet.  However, I can tell you that while boogie boarding in Diego Garcia (the Footprint of Freedom, look it up) while on deployment I was stung by a Portuguese Man of War.   It didn&#8217;t really hurt until i got out of the water and then it stung like crazy.  The Corpsman threw some meat tenderizer on it and gave me a shot of something he pulled from under the counter &#8211; apparently this happens a lot.   But you are right, you don&#8217;t want to bawl like a baby, we&#8217;re tough &#8211; but damn that hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4759</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Argonaut, I ahve no problem being the offtank, absorbing the hurtful strikes. Sounds like something I can plan for.

But in your opinion, which capabilities of the warrior tank make them the best choice for main tanking this boss? I&#039;d honestly like to know, so that I can understand what our main tank will have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Argonaut, I ahve no problem being the offtank, absorbing the hurtful strikes. Sounds like something I can plan for.</p>
<p>But in your opinion, which capabilities of the warrior tank make them the best choice for main tanking this boss? I&#8217;d honestly like to know, so that I can understand what our main tank will have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Bell.</description>
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		<title>By: Bellwether</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/03/18/storytime-a-surfers-tail/comment-page-1/#comment-4757</link>
		<dc:creator>Bellwether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I did was wince through that whole story.

Ow ow ow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I did was wince through that whole story.</p>
<p>Ow ow ow.</p>
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