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		<title>By: Earendil</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/04/07/a-little-bit-of-talk-about-pvp-gear/comment-page-1/#comment-5275</link>
		<dc:creator>Earendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify something here. The Arena Equipment (Season 1 -3) is not on the same slots as the vindicator or veterans stuff. I.e. you cannot replace them with each other. The vindicator stuff is optical the same as the Season 3. Therefore, once you have all 5 Season 3 items and the vindicator boots and bracers (+ trinket and ring) you have the complete set. The veterans set is the same for the season 2 stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify something here. The Arena Equipment (Season 1 -3) is not on the same slots as the vindicator or veterans stuff. I.e. you cannot replace them with each other. The vindicator stuff is optical the same as the Season 3. Therefore, once you have all 5 Season 3 items and the vindicator boots and bracers (+ trinket and ring) you have the complete set. The veterans set is the same for the season 2 stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Caelean@Akama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caelean@Akama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're having trouble staying crit immune, the new "Glyph of the Gladiator" adds 18 stamina and 20 resilience to a head item, which is about twice as effective at getting crit immune compared to the the 16 def KoT Glyph.

Available at Revered from the Shattered Sun (and that's the EASIEST faction in the game.)

I'm not Revered with Keepers of Time yet, so it is much better for tanking than any of  my other options.  (Might be worth adding to the starter gear list, if it isn't already on there.)

(In fact, based on emmerald's regular gear formula, the stamina is worth 75 bear points vs. 84 bear points on the dodge + defense on the KoT Glyph, not counting any value from resilience, so for bears at the lower end, it might even be preferable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re having trouble staying crit immune, the new &#8220;Glyph of the Gladiator&#8221; adds 18 stamina and 20 resilience to a head item, which is about twice as effective at getting crit immune compared to the the 16 def KoT Glyph.</p>
<p>Available at Revered from the Shattered Sun (and that&#8217;s the EASIEST faction in the game.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not Revered with Keepers of Time yet, so it is much better for tanking than any of  my other options.  (Might be worth adding to the starter gear list, if it isn&#8217;t already on there.)</p>
<p>(In fact, based on emmerald&#8217;s regular gear formula, the stamina is worth 75 bear points vs. 84 bear points on the dodge + defense on the KoT Glyph, not counting any value from resilience, so for bears at the lower end, it might even be preferable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ellende</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE YOU! I was just browsing around for information about PVP-items yesterday, fearing I should get into this to get my gear up a knotch again. And now you and the comments helped me get some.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE YOU! I was just browsing around for information about PVP-items yesterday, fearing I should get into this to get my gear up a knotch again. And now you and the comments helped me get some.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ngita</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/04/07/a-little-bit-of-talk-about-pvp-gear/comment-page-1/#comment-5229</link>
		<dc:creator>Ngita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty happy to pick up my 100 badge legs last night. If your server is busy just remember /target smith , Shift V and face away if their is pvp flags.

As in all of the SSO quests random is random. I have found it better to pick a spot where their are 3 Myrmidons spawns in range of instant cast and just camp their. But last night was pretty typical 2  keys in 6 kills, 3rd 19 kills later. The boat is is pretty bad when you get 8-9 people per boat but its just kills. Lfg and with the instant respawn its done in less then a minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty happy to pick up my 100 badge legs last night. If your server is busy just remember /target smith , Shift V and face away if their is pvp flags.</p>
<p>As in all of the SSO quests random is random. I have found it better to pick a spot where their are 3 Myrmidons spawns in range of instant cast and just camp their. But last night was pretty typical 2  keys in 6 kills, 3rd 19 kills later. The boat is is pretty bad when you get 8-9 people per boat but its just kills. Lfg and with the instant respawn its done in less then a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Caelean is right, this is the only way to get these pieces of Veterans gear now. 

Also, yes only the Veterans is up fro Badges, the Vindicator uses Tier tokens. 

And Runycat, you busted me. I was too lazy to actually check to see if the key was still in my keyring after I turned in the quest. If yours disappeared when you turned in the quest, I bet mine did too.

Karlenn, as things stand I have one Badge reward I'm waiting on, I'm going to buy the new 100 Badge leggings for bear tanking. I already have my Nethercleft Leg Armor, and I'm planning on getting the new Resilience chest enchant. With the enchant, plus the necklace off Maiden, I think I'll keep uncrittable status after losing the Heavy Clefthoof Leggings. I already ahve the 75 Badge chest armor for tanking, so I'm kind of hanging on to it. We are also knocking down High King and Gruul every shot, and we downed Magtheridon last Friday, so I have a reasonable expectation of seeing the T4 shoulders soon. 

Oh, and I have no intention of taking the Tier4 Chest or Tier4 Leggings, because I have the 75 badge chest and I will have the 100 badge leggings. I'm just shooting for the shoulders. 

I have the 100 badges now. Honestly, once I have the shoulders and leggings and have the enchant, I'll check my Rawr and see where I stand.

Hope that answers your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Caelean is right, this is the only way to get these pieces of Veterans gear now. </p>
<p>Also, yes only the Veterans is up fro Badges, the Vindicator uses Tier tokens. </p>
<p>And Runycat, you busted me. I was too lazy to actually check to see if the key was still in my keyring after I turned in the quest. If yours disappeared when you turned in the quest, I bet mine did too.</p>
<p>Karlenn, as things stand I have one Badge reward I&#8217;m waiting on, I&#8217;m going to buy the new 100 Badge leggings for bear tanking. I already have my Nethercleft Leg Armor, and I&#8217;m planning on getting the new Resilience chest enchant. With the enchant, plus the necklace off Maiden, I think I&#8217;ll keep uncrittable status after losing the Heavy Clefthoof Leggings. I already ahve the 75 Badge chest armor for tanking, so I&#8217;m kind of hanging on to it. We are also knocking down High King and Gruul every shot, and we downed Magtheridon last Friday, so I have a reasonable expectation of seeing the T4 shoulders soon. </p>
<p>Oh, and I have no intention of taking the Tier4 Chest or Tier4 Leggings, because I have the 75 badge chest and I will have the 100 badge leggings. I&#8217;m just shooting for the shoulders. </p>
<p>I have the 100 badges now. Honestly, once I have the shoulders and leggings and have the enchant, I&#8217;ll check my Rawr and see where I stand.</p>
<p>Hope that answers your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Caelean@Akama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caelean@Akama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I've been WANTING the veteran's gear for months.  You can't buy it anymore any other way.

It isn't as good at DPS or tanking as the S3 gear, but it has a bunch of +heal AND pretty darned good melee specs.  Throw in the talent that adds agility to +heal, and they're actually better than the Kodohide for a tank doing off-healing.  So if you're being a hybrid in either PvE or PvP, the veteran's might be better than the vindicators.

The S3 gear doesn't have the +heal, but throws in more melee abilities.

Now I just have to figure out if my gear is good enough to farm badges.  :-)   Soon as I get my Belt of Natural Power crafted, time to LFG Heroic..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve been WANTING the veteran&#8217;s gear for months.  You can&#8217;t buy it anymore any other way.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t as good at DPS or tanking as the S3 gear, but it has a bunch of +heal AND pretty darned good melee specs.  Throw in the talent that adds agility to +heal, and they&#8217;re actually better than the Kodohide for a tank doing off-healing.  So if you&#8217;re being a hybrid in either PvE or PvP, the veteran&#8217;s might be better than the vindicators.</p>
<p>The S3 gear doesn&#8217;t have the +heal, but throws in more melee abilities.</p>
<p>Now I just have to figure out if my gear is good enough to farm badges.  <img src='http://thebigbearbutt.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Soon as I get my Belt of Natural Power crafted, time to LFG Heroic..</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. They're only selling the veteran's for badges? That's kinda lame given that the vindicator's are still available for honor and are in all ways better. Still, if you really need that extra hit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. They&#8217;re only selling the veteran&#8217;s for badges? That&#8217;s kinda lame given that the vindicator&#8217;s are still available for honor and are in all ways better. Still, if you really need that extra hit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bennet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you may also have gotten lucky on the key drop rates. My husband and I (who can and do read) do the Isle quests together, and our first night on the keys he got all of his in less than five minutes. We hung out killing Myrmidons for another ten - lots of fish oil but no keys for me. Our time was limited, so we finally gave up and decamped for the Outlands dailies. No, I wouldn't complain about it on general chat, and I know "random" means random, but it was a little frustrating...maybe I'll have better luck today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you may also have gotten lucky on the key drop rates. My husband and I (who can and do read) do the Isle quests together, and our first night on the keys he got all of his in less than five minutes. We hung out killing Myrmidons for another ten - lots of fish oil but no keys for me. Our time was limited, so we finally gave up and decamped for the Outlands dailies. No, I wouldn&#8217;t complain about it on general chat, and I know &#8220;random&#8221; means random, but it was a little frustrating&#8230;maybe I&#8217;ll have better luck today.</p>
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		<title>By: Karlenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karlenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, fergot to ask.  What's your shopping list for Badge rewards?</description>
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		<title>By: Karlenn</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/04/07/a-little-bit-of-talk-about-pvp-gear/comment-page-1/#comment-5220</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid my dues and ground out the Vindicator Dragonhide gear - and the Glad Shoulders.  Its all very tasty for both Bear and Cat, but the lack of hit rating means that if I miss that first Mangle on a pull . . .

But I suppose that it works for (what was) a quick and dirty way to be ready for 10mans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid my dues and ground out the Vindicator Dragonhide gear - and the Glad Shoulders.  Its all very tasty for both Bear and Cat, but the lack of hit rating means that if I miss that first Mangle on a pull . . .</p>
<p>But I suppose that it works for (what was) a quick and dirty way to be ready for 10mans.</p>
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