Comments on: A massive amount of bitterness http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/ Feral Druids in World of Warcraft Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:17:38 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Carnavorr http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Carnavorr Fri, 16 May 2008 11:59:45 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6119 Honestly -- I got really upset reading the article... not because I believe any of it was racist, but to see so many people getting their panties in a wad over it. There's quite a number of us younger people who grew up in places where racism was considered a thing of the past. So seeing a name like "Rosa Parks Stole My Seat", I find it hilarious in a poking-fun-at-ourselves kinda way. I think people have gotten so paranoid about not being racist, that they end up making trivial things out to be seem racist. It's just sad to see so many PC people with no sense of humor. As for the fellas down range... I'm an Active Duty USAF member, serving in Germany at the moment. A lot of buddies down range seem to have pretty consistent access to the net (MySpace, etc.). I'm fairly certain they can't do any gaming though, due to pretty strict gov't network regulations. Last time I was down there in '03 it was a lot more difficult than it is now. Honestly — I got really upset reading the article… not because I believe any of it was racist, but to see so many people getting their panties in a wad over it.

There’s quite a number of us younger people who grew up in places where racism was considered a thing of the past. So seeing a name like “Rosa Parks Stole My Seat”, I find it hilarious in a poking-fun-at-ourselves kinda way.

I think people have gotten so paranoid about not being racist, that they end up making trivial things out to be seem racist.

It’s just sad to see so many PC people with no sense of humor.

As for the fellas down range… I’m an Active Duty USAF member, serving in Germany at the moment. A lot of buddies down range seem to have pretty consistent access to the net (MySpace, etc.). I’m fairly certain they can’t do any gaming though, due to pretty strict gov’t network regulations. Last time I was down there in ‘03 it was a lot more difficult than it is now.

]]> By: Dr. Woo http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6118 Dr. Woo Fri, 16 May 2008 11:58:43 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6118 B3, I'd say you're damn close to being right on. The whole racism thing in WoW has gotten worse over the years, but it still has a long way to go before it gets as bad as, say, web forums/discussion boards on the Interwebs. A lot of it has sneaked into the game in the form of guild/arena names like "Naga Stole My Bike" or "Nagas in the Slave Pens." But honestly, "Rosa Parks Stole My Seat"? That doesn't even have anything to do with the game. It's not even clever. But what else are the WoW Insider folks gonna talk about? It's kind of an issue, like I said, that racially-charged statements are slowly (I emphasize slowly) making their way into the game, but the article seemed to be unreasonably tirade-ish, which is where I agree with you...with everything going on right now - disasters taking innocent lives; men and women who signed up to defend the country dying for, at best, questionable reasons; an economy teetering on the edge of depression; personal rights and civil liberties violations running rampant - a few kids trying to ruffle some feathers seems rather trite by comparison. All I have to say is thank goodness there are private organizations out there devoted solely to relief efforts, counseling, and distributing necessary goods and services to those put in harm's way in any form. Donate as much as you can afford to these charities; even if some of the money goes towards overhead costs, it keeps them around, and you never know when you might be thankful for their selfless efforts in helping the common man. B3, I’d say you’re damn close to being right on. The whole racism thing in WoW has gotten worse over the years, but it still has a long way to go before it gets as bad as, say, web forums/discussion boards on the Interwebs. A lot of it has sneaked into the game in the form of guild/arena names like “Naga Stole My Bike” or “Nagas in the Slave Pens.” But honestly, “Rosa Parks Stole My Seat”? That doesn’t even have anything to do with the game. It’s not even clever. But what else are the WoW Insider folks gonna talk about? It’s kind of an issue, like I said, that racially-charged statements are slowly (I emphasize slowly) making their way into the game, but the article seemed to be unreasonably tirade-ish, which is where I agree with you…with everything going on right now – disasters taking innocent lives; men and women who signed up to defend the country dying for, at best, questionable reasons; an economy teetering on the edge of depression; personal rights and civil liberties violations running rampant – a few kids trying to ruffle some feathers seems rather trite by comparison.

All I have to say is thank goodness there are private organizations out there devoted solely to relief efforts, counseling, and distributing necessary goods and services to those put in harm’s way in any form. Donate as much as you can afford to these charities; even if some of the money goes towards overhead costs, it keeps them around, and you never know when you might be thankful for their selfless efforts in helping the common man.

]]> By: Merlot http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6115 Merlot Fri, 16 May 2008 07:20:36 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6115 You're absolutely right to put this particular issue into perspective - I agree there are more important things in the world to worry about. But I don't see what's wrong with standing up to predjudice, ignorance and malice, even if it is only in an insignificant little game. I don't think that diminishes the more significant issues. You’re absolutely right to put this particular issue into perspective – I agree there are more important things in the world to worry about. But I don’t see what’s wrong with standing up to predjudice, ignorance and malice, even if it is only in an insignificant little game. I don’t think that diminishes the more significant issues.

]]> By: Blood Elf Chicks http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6113 Blood Elf Chicks Fri, 16 May 2008 02:56:29 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6113 Know what you mean... Way too many 'politically correct police' out there getting butthurt over really minor things... Anyway, don't worry about your friends in Singapore. Our little island is a tad bit far from China to have to worry about aftershocks. There is a reasonably sized expatriate Singapore community there, but at latest report, all of them seems to have escaped being hurt. However, I do second your call for help in terms of donation, etc to the humanitarian disasters in China and Myanmar. Cheers Know what you mean… Way too many ‘politically correct police’ out there getting butthurt over really minor things…

Anyway, don’t worry about your friends in Singapore. Our little island is a tad bit far from China to have to worry about aftershocks. There is a reasonably sized expatriate Singapore community there, but at latest report, all of them seems to have escaped being hurt.

However, I do second your call for help in terms of donation, etc to the humanitarian disasters in China and Myanmar.

Cheers

]]> By: Game Dame http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6103 Game Dame Thu, 15 May 2008 22:40:22 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6103 BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!! Wow, I've never agreed with someone 100% across the board on a post, but you managed it BBB. It's like you can read my mind. I am the same way as you are about calling people on their bullshit, getting their priorities straight, and just flipping using their brains more. On a personal note, it is with a sore heart that I share your pain about Terry Pratchett. He's been my favorite author for 20 years now. In addition to congratulating you on agreeing with me (ha!), I want to sincerely thank you from my deep heart for posting all those useful links. Let us also not forget about the cyclone victims (maybe I missed that reference) in Myanmar. Looking forward to seeing you over on Sidhe Devils again soon. --Natalie / Abuto BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!! Wow, I’ve never agreed with someone 100% across the board on a post, but you managed it BBB. It’s like you can read my mind. I am the same way as you are about calling people on their bullshit, getting their priorities straight, and just flipping using their brains more. On a personal note, it is with a sore heart that I share your pain about Terry Pratchett. He’s been my favorite author for 20 years now. In addition to congratulating you on agreeing with me (ha!), I want to sincerely thank you from my deep heart for posting all those useful links. Let us also not forget about the cyclone victims (maybe I missed that reference) in Myanmar. Looking forward to seeing you over on Sidhe Devils again soon. –Natalie / Abuto

]]> By: Mikefurion http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6099 Mikefurion Thu, 15 May 2008 20:21:17 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6099 BBB, Just want to start off by saying that I have nothing but the up most respect for the Marines. My dad was (and always will be) a Marine. That should tell you everything you need to know. Anyway, as for myself, I am in the United States Air Force and am currently finishing a tour at Balad AB, Iraq. My daily routine goes something like this: Work a 12-14 hour day, when I'm released call my wife, go to the gym, and end the day with browsing for WoW info on the web at our bases media center. More specifically, I typically end the day browsing for Druid Tank/Dps info. So while I hardly ever comment, I've been following your work on Shifting Perspectives and Big Bear Butt for awhile now. So much so, that I've pain stakingly wrote your guides on Tank Gear , Rawr, and Raid Consumable out by hand since I don't have access to a printer. Just so I can have it ready to use as soon as I return home. The good news is that I am returning home soon. My wife and I just started playing WoW before I deployed and I currently have a lvl 50 NE Druid ( http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Mikefurion ) patiently waiting for me at the inn in Darnassus. My guild is currently farming Karazhan. With the help of your guides it is my hope to reach 70 and join them in a reasonable time frame once I return home. So BBB, form one service member to another, I just want to thank you for the hard work you put into your guides. They've given me something to look forward to at the end of the day and something else to look forward to once I return home. In short, its been kinda a morale boost for me. -Mikefurion 332 EMXS VIPER PHASE BALAD AB, IRAQ BBB,

Just want to start off by saying that I have nothing but the up most respect for the Marines. My dad was (and always will be) a Marine. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Anyway, as for myself, I am in the United States Air Force and am currently finishing a tour at Balad AB, Iraq. My daily routine goes something like this: Work a 12-14 hour day, when I’m released call my wife, go to the gym, and end the day with browsing for WoW info on the web at our bases media center. More specifically, I typically end the day browsing for Druid Tank/Dps info. So while I hardly ever comment, I’ve been following your work on Shifting Perspectives and Big Bear Butt for awhile now. So much so, that I’ve pain stakingly wrote your guides on Tank Gear , Rawr, and Raid Consumable out by hand since I don’t have access to a printer. Just so I can have it ready to use as soon as I return home. The good news is that I am returning home soon.

My wife and I just started playing WoW before I deployed and I currently have a lvl 50 NE Druid ( http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Mikefurion ) patiently waiting for me at the inn in Darnassus. My guild is currently farming Karazhan. With the help of your guides it is my hope to reach 70 and join them in a reasonable time frame once I return home.

So BBB, form one service member to another, I just want to thank you for the hard work you put into your guides. They’ve given me something to look forward to at the end of the day and something else to look forward to once I return home. In short, its been kinda a morale boost for me.

-Mikefurion
332 EMXS
VIPER PHASE
BALAD AB, IRAQ

]]> By: Raynmaker, Alevas (Uther) http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6092 Raynmaker, Alevas (Uther) Thu, 15 May 2008 18:19:43 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6092 BBB, All of your comments were on the money, but one really struck with me... and it's not even that big of a deal to most people. I just started ready Pratchett about a year ago, and I've burned through about half of the Disworld books. It's so sad and I hope he puts out a ton of new work before he's unable to write anymore. Thanks for the link for Match It - I hadn't heard about it yet. Good luck on Saturday! BBB,

All of your comments were on the money, but one really struck with me… and it’s not even that big of a deal to most people. I just started ready Pratchett about a year ago, and I’ve burned through about half of the Disworld books. It’s so sad and I hope he puts out a ton of new work before he’s unable to write anymore.
Thanks for the link for Match It – I hadn’t heard about it yet.

Good luck on Saturday!

]]> By: Lady Jess http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6088 Lady Jess Thu, 15 May 2008 17:22:04 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6088 When my hubby was over there, we hadn't discovered WoW yet, but we did get to spend very valuable time together via yahoo messenger and web cams. It was awesome SEEING he was ok, and for him getting to see "home" every day. It's very common for them to have internet i their quarters these days, which I think is just wonderful. Kept my sanity for those 16 months. When my hubby was over there, we hadn’t discovered WoW yet, but we did get to spend very valuable time together via yahoo messenger and web cams. It was awesome SEEING he was ok, and for him getting to see “home” every day. It’s very common for them to have internet i their quarters these days, which I think is just wonderful. Kept my sanity for those 16 months.

]]> By: Raij http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6085 Raij Thu, 15 May 2008 16:59:03 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6085 It can't be making you racist, because it's simply not your opinion. At most, you could be accused of closing your eyes to it. Such lengthy discussion threads are almost never worth their disk space, while there is such a simple solution to it: report them, put them on ignore and forget about it. On the other hand, there are soo many discussion threads with a significance level below any measurability threshold. Pages of flames about class changes that MIGHT GET into the next patch? Like there was nothing more important than the Hunter/Druid-Balance in Arena? Such are things I don't get at all. Believe it or not, I feel like you do now - about 90% of the time. Take care and get nice moments to counterbalance those existential moods. It can’t be making you racist, because it’s simply not your opinion. At most, you could be accused of closing your eyes to it.
Such lengthy discussion threads are almost never worth their disk space, while there is such a simple solution to it: report them, put them on ignore and forget about it.
On the other hand, there are soo many discussion threads with a significance level below any measurability threshold. Pages of flames about class changes that MIGHT GET into the next patch? Like there was nothing more important than the Hunter/Druid-Balance in Arena? Such are things I don’t get at all.
Believe it or not, I feel like you do now – about 90% of the time.

Take care and get nice moments to counterbalance those existential moods.

]]> By: Urth http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/comment-page-1/#comment-6083 Urth Thu, 15 May 2008 16:25:39 +0000 http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/05/15/a-massive-amount-of-bitterness/#comment-6083 Lol. Ok. I guess you're allowed to get worked into a tizzy if you're being asked to discuss ad nauseum the top articles on WoWInsider. I sifted your post here (as one sometimes needs to ;-) ) and thought jeez John no need to justify your interests versus one article on WoWInsider. Like, set the potato down already. It may be hot, but its still just a potato. And while I don't want to see you stressing out about what you'd say in response to the Rosa Parks issue... I REALLY don't want Schramm tackling it. Talk about bulls and china shops. In any case, I weighed in on that debacle in support of Amanda Dean. She writes provocative, intelligent and informative articles and people pick her apart for writing spelling errors, much less polarizing opinions. I like her, and agree with her. Lol. Ok. I guess you’re allowed to get worked into a tizzy if you’re being asked to discuss ad nauseum the top articles on WoWInsider. I sifted your post here (as one sometimes needs to ;-) ) and thought jeez John no need to justify your interests versus one article on WoWInsider. Like, set the potato down already. It may be hot, but its still just a potato.

And while I don’t want to see you stressing out about what you’d say in response to the Rosa Parks issue… I REALLY don’t want Schramm tackling it. Talk about bulls and china shops.

In any case, I weighed in on that debacle in support of Amanda Dean. She writes provocative, intelligent and informative articles and people pick her apart for writing spelling errors, much less polarizing opinions. I like her, and agree with her.

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