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		<title>By: Kheldar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7724</link>
		<dc:creator>Kheldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you can&#039;t beat em, join em.

so saturday i finally decided that after this blog and having checked out some details on thotbot and rawr i needed these shoulders - even over and above my already epic crafted shoulders from a MH/BT trash drop.

and lo and behold i&#039;m told its AV weekend ??  double rep....i mean honour ! :p

so by yesterday morning I was able to purchase my new Merciless Shoulders :)  gotta gem them up now - 2 15stam gems is the plan.

and what&#039;s more i am still doing pvp /yawn /cry as i need the helm to, which will replace my Stylin Purple !

so thanks for this post on the Blog BBB.  i still hate pvp - AV is just such a mess of un-coordinated people doing their own thing it seems that win or lose is somewhat random !

WSG was ok - only been 1 time but its the wow version of Quake CTF from many many years ago !  AB is fun when there were 5 of us in their together trying to do some sort of co-ordination.

Not sure on the Eye yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you can&#8217;t beat em, join em.</p>
<p>so saturday i finally decided that after this blog and having checked out some details on thotbot and rawr i needed these shoulders &#8211; even over and above my already epic crafted shoulders from a MH/BT trash drop.</p>
<p>and lo and behold i&#8217;m told its AV weekend ??  double rep&#8230;.i mean honour ! :p</p>
<p>so by yesterday morning I was able to purchase my new Merciless Shoulders :)  gotta gem them up now &#8211; 2 15stam gems is the plan.</p>
<p>and what&#8217;s more i am still doing pvp /yawn /cry as i need the helm to, which will replace my Stylin Purple !</p>
<p>so thanks for this post on the Blog BBB.  i still hate pvp &#8211; AV is just such a mess of un-coordinated people doing their own thing it seems that win or lose is somewhat random !</p>
<p>WSG was ok &#8211; only been 1 time but its the wow version of Quake CTF from many many years ago !  AB is fun when there were 5 of us in their together trying to do some sort of co-ordination.</p>
<p>Not sure on the Eye yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kheldar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>Kheldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[indeed BBB.

roll on WotLK and let all our current epics become the new greens ! :p

i just remember wow in the old days b4 Blizz went and introduced damn pvp.  so for those who remember B-PVP, as in Before PVP i salute you :)  All that happened then was a major battle always used to take place at Tarren Mill.

The ally&#039;s would come and try to stomp Tarren Mill and a few of us horde would try to stop them, given i think my server at the times was something 70-30 in favour of alliance characters.

i&#039;m going to talk to some people in my guild about how painful it would be for me to try to attempt to get these shoulders - which seriously rate over my very expensive (2 hearts of darkness!) Swiftstrike ones :(

but my heart is not into pvp so i expect in the end i&#039;ll just try to forget that i could spend time getting these (easy) pvp epics shoulders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed BBB.</p>
<p>roll on WotLK and let all our current epics become the new greens ! :p</p>
<p>i just remember wow in the old days b4 Blizz went and introduced damn pvp.  so for those who remember B-PVP, as in Before PVP i salute you :)  All that happened then was a major battle always used to take place at Tarren Mill.</p>
<p>The ally&#8217;s would come and try to stomp Tarren Mill and a few of us horde would try to stop them, given i think my server at the times was something 70-30 in favour of alliance characters.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m going to talk to some people in my guild about how painful it would be for me to try to attempt to get these shoulders &#8211; which seriously rate over my very expensive (2 hearts of darkness!) Swiftstrike ones :(</p>
<p>but my heart is not into pvp so i expect in the end i&#8217;ll just try to forget that i could spend time getting these (easy) pvp epics shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, Kheldar. I really do understand that soe people just don&#039;t want to do PvP, because they just don&#039;t enjoy it, and don&#039;t see the point in doing something they don&#039;t like just for loot. It&#039;s not fun, so why do it?

I guess it really depends on where you feel youa re at. If you are a new 70 feral looking for shoulder options, then in one jump you can get these... or you can do some running of Heroic Hellfire instances.

If you&#039;re not in a big rush, however, or you&#039;re working on other stuff, you could just get the PvP Blue quality shoulders directly from a Rep vendor and look for other upgrades first.

In the end, just remember we&#039;re only a few months away from the next expansion, when the current &#039;best&#039; gear lists go right out the window. So patience is a virtue if you don&#039;t want to PvP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Kheldar. I really do understand that soe people just don&#8217;t want to do PvP, because they just don&#8217;t enjoy it, and don&#8217;t see the point in doing something they don&#8217;t like just for loot. It&#8217;s not fun, so why do it?</p>
<p>I guess it really depends on where you feel youa re at. If you are a new 70 feral looking for shoulder options, then in one jump you can get these&#8230; or you can do some running of Heroic Hellfire instances.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not in a big rush, however, or you&#8217;re working on other stuff, you could just get the PvP Blue quality shoulders directly from a Rep vendor and look for other upgrades first.</p>
<p>In the end, just remember we&#8217;re only a few months away from the next expansion, when the current &#8216;best&#8217; gear lists go right out the window. So patience is a virtue if you don&#8217;t want to PvP.</p>
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		<title>By: Kheldar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7547</link>
		<dc:creator>Kheldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[damn i do detest pvp but those merciless shoulders look pretty amazing.

i currently use the Swiftstrike Shoulders as i bought the pattern off the AH cheaply and made myself a set as i&#039;m a LW.  before these i think i was using a blue set, Talbuk something or other ?

i cannot remember all the stats on the Swiftstrike but i&#039;m pretty damn sure they dont match up to the pvp ones :(

i just dont dont dont wanna have to do any pvp /cry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn i do detest pvp but those merciless shoulders look pretty amazing.</p>
<p>i currently use the Swiftstrike Shoulders as i bought the pattern off the AH cheaply and made myself a set as i&#8217;m a LW.  before these i think i was using a blue set, Talbuk something or other ?</p>
<p>i cannot remember all the stats on the Swiftstrike but i&#8217;m pretty damn sure they dont match up to the pvp ones :(</p>
<p>i just dont dont dont wanna have to do any pvp /cry</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7469</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Put on your profanity filter. I play with it on, and it’s hilarious.&quot;

I&#039;ve never turned mine off :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Put on your profanity filter. I play with it on, and it’s hilarious.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never turned mine off :)</p>
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		<title>By: Artorin</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7416</link>
		<dc:creator>Artorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as feral druids it is simply easier to go with resilience then with  defense. Defense is a slightly better stat in that it increases your chance to be missed and dodge slightly. But since the availability of said leather is so rare past the clefthoof set and earthwarden it really doesn&#039;t pay to go with defense anymore. Since our main goal with defense or resilience is to get to uncritable resilience gets us there faster and with the availiability of pvp gear now... it simply makes the most sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as feral druids it is simply easier to go with resilience then with  defense. Defense is a slightly better stat in that it increases your chance to be missed and dodge slightly. But since the availability of said leather is so rare past the clefthoof set and earthwarden it really doesn&#8217;t pay to go with defense anymore. Since our main goal with defense or resilience is to get to uncritable resilience gets us there faster and with the availiability of pvp gear now&#8230; it simply makes the most sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Messyah</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7411</link>
		<dc:creator>Messyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BBB - Does this mean you are of the mindset of being uncrittable via Resilience as opposed to with Defense Rating?  I am currently built on Defense, but I&#039;ve always considered making the move to tanking with Resilience instead.

What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBB &#8211; Does this mean you are of the mindset of being uncrittable via Resilience as opposed to with Defense Rating?  I am currently built on Defense, but I&#8217;ve always considered making the move to tanking with Resilience instead.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: MostlyKaldorei</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7409</link>
		<dc:creator>MostlyKaldorei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I was waiting for season 4 to start to I could pick these shoulders up for honor. Picked them and the helm up. between those two pieces, the set bonus, and the glyph of the gladiator, I think any defense rating I have is just increasing avoidance.
Given the itemization I&#039;ll have available, I&#039;ll be wearing these just about until full tier six is available: being able to pack so much crit immunity into such a small amount of slots is huge in allowing other slots to focus on stats.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&amp;n=Lushere&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lushere&lt;/a&gt; on Argent Dawn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I was waiting for season 4 to start to I could pick these shoulders up for honor. Picked them and the helm up. between those two pieces, the set bonus, and the glyph of the gladiator, I think any defense rating I have is just increasing avoidance.<br />
Given the itemization I&#8217;ll have available, I&#8217;ll be wearing these just about until full tier six is available: being able to pack so much crit immunity into such a small amount of slots is huge in allowing other slots to focus on stats.<br />
<a href="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&amp;n=Lushere" rel="nofollow">Lushere</a> on Argent Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7407</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh HELL no Kikidas... I am ALL OVER the &#039;where is that little prick healing the enemy, his ass is toast&#039; strategy.

In fact, my thought process usually goes &quot;Ah, I see you smartass, let&#039;s get a little dot action on your ass, a little SW: Death, pop a fear and let&#039;s see if I can get a Stun proccing... hey, the little bastard is still at half health... okay, where is the little prick keeping him aliv.... oh, THERE you are! Hello, lunch!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh HELL no Kikidas&#8230; I am ALL OVER the &#8216;where is that little prick healing the enemy, his ass is toast&#8217; strategy.</p>
<p>In fact, my thought process usually goes &#8220;Ah, I see you smartass, let&#8217;s get a little dot action on your ass, a little SW: Death, pop a fear and let&#8217;s see if I can get a Stun proccing&#8230; hey, the little bastard is still at half health&#8230; okay, where is the little prick keeping him aliv&#8230;. oh, THERE you are! Hello, lunch!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/07/01/a-final-word-on-druid-tanking-shoulders/comment-page-1/#comment-7405</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caelean@Akama  said 
&quot;Now I just need to find a guild that needs a tank.&quot;

If you&#039;ve only ever done one heroic, you&#039;ll also have to learn how to tank :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caelean@Akama  said<br />
&#8220;Now I just need to find a guild that needs a tank.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve only ever done one heroic, you&#8217;ll also have to learn how to tank :P</p>
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