KIL is good until you snag enough people for that second raid.

Despite the large interest that we had in raiding, I think that we ended up only employing the list once; my guild was a lot of talk and people who signed up didn’t show up and people that showed up often didn’t show up and it was just a big Charlie Foxtrot at times.

We find we have everyone willing to sit out if the RL asks for volunteers, rolling takes it out of everyones hands.

On a lesser note, have been there BBB. My horde guild started rotating on a first come first server basis. There is no perfect solution though, so I feel for you man. From what little I “know” of you guys though I do not see this as a source of drama for your guild. Stressful for you, and painful, but your group of guys and gals will be cool.

We ought to have two teams very soon, two very capable teams.

Yeah, I have no problem in sitting one out. I’ve thought about it for this run, but there are a few reasons I haven’t gone there yet. First is that half of the current run are my friends from outside the guild. I’m still kind of the liaison bringing them on board. Second is that I’m still the raid leader at this time, this is only our second non-PUG run. :) And third is that I am one of our top three DPS on Windburn, and our best Prince tank at this time, so I do think it adds some extra cushion when I come.

I think from the response I’m seeing on our forums, we’re going pretty well. Having it all get out in the open is bringing more people into the forums to talk it over. We’re good.

There are fools among us – I used to be one – who will run an instance below level if it can be made challenging. Short-manning is the main way, though there might be others. So, do you have five “uber” players willing to take the dare of 5+1 manning Kara?

(It’s an option. As you said, making someone sit out sucks.)

Yeah, it would be a bummer because you don’t get to go. BUT, you would show that it obviously wasn’t a matter of favoritism, and your willingness to put your guildmates’ happiness before your own (under certain circumstances). Just an idea. :)

I am one of those people who need a 12 step program for alts I love them all and play them all except for one class. So if I get to go OT, or DPS for Kara I am a happy guy. If I get to take my Alt Shammy to off heal even better. But if I don’t I sit drooling over which to play, Its like a game show, should I choose the lock, the shadow priest, the hunter or the Twink Rouge. We will always have plenty of other fun stuff to do so if we are asked to sit out it shouldn’t be an epic event.

Itok

All I can recommend is just plain and simple…ask…who can share…who will sit out…

But thats why you are the boss…you get the hard decisions.

*smile* Buck-up buck-a-roo

As evryone else has stated – get your class make up first. We started with 2 tanks, 3 healers, 5 dps to ensure we had healing covered. Priests are great for the shackles in the first half of kara but you can get by without.

Just keep everyone on the same page and if someone doesnt run one week – do your best to get them in the next week. Swapping up groups mid run works but this extends the time of your raid because unless you have a lock to summon people in or people are parked outside, this is a huge waste of time. Kara is long enough already – 3+ hours in is still a long time for an instance.

Multiple kara groups is technically challenging unless you definitely have a core group of tanks/healers that can be relied upon. I wouldnt recommend it when you are just starting. As with all scheduling nightmares, 2 groups (or the 3 we’re working on now) is hit or miss and depends on dedication of your raiders.

just my 2 cents from going through the same thing months ago with my guild.