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		<title>By: Rilgon Arcsinh</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-9281</link>
		<dc:creator>Rilgon Arcsinh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not on this toon, but I definitely have screenshots of my first Ragnaros, Onyxia, Nefarian, C&#039;thun, and Patchwerk kills on my old character (which I sold). ^^;

You&#039;re right - old-world content is a blast, and more guilds should think about doing it for fun. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not on this toon, but I definitely have screenshots of my first Ragnaros, Onyxia, Nefarian, C&#8217;thun, and Patchwerk kills on my old character (which I sold). ^^;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; old-world content is a blast, and more guilds should think about doing it for fun. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tizoc the Moonking</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8832</link>
		<dc:creator>Tizoc the Moonking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I think most people want at least *something* for doing things in older WoW content.  That&#039;s the reason I think achievements will make guilds want to go back and try old content.

At the moment people have heard about achievements, but don&#039;t know how retroactive they are in terms of instances right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think most people want at least *something* for doing things in older WoW content.  That&#8217;s the reason I think achievements will make guilds want to go back and try old content.</p>
<p>At the moment people have heard about achievements, but don&#8217;t know how retroactive they are in terms of instances right now.</p>
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		<title>By: ech</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8780</link>
		<dc:creator>ech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a newbie player (67.5 Warlock in about 3 months of playing, and two alts in the 20s) and have limited instance runs under my belt - Ragefire (twice), Wailing Caverns, Razorfen Kraul, Zul&#039;Farak, SM Library, Hellfire Ramparts, and Blood Furnace. My wife, daughter (Hunter), and I tried to 3 man Sunken Temple as 54s and were PWNed due to lack of healing.

I would like to do two^H^H^H three ^H^H^H^H^H among the things I&#039;d like to do before WotLK are:
 - ding 70. Likely to happen, as my (casual) guild is helping to get my wife (Warrior) leveled ASAP to start Kara raiding.
 - get a bear mount. Not likely to happen, am I&#039;m not qualified by time or temperment to be in a serious raiding guild. Don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have time to gear up. Although there is a group doing runs on our server for 10K gold.....
 - see Nax and Onyxia in their original splendor.

I&#039;ve seen some discussion on our server&#039;s forum about old-world raids and there is an Alliance player (I&#039;m &quot;For the Horde!&quot;) trying to up for PUG runs. One I ding 70, maybe I&#039;ll try to do the same for Horde.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a newbie player (67.5 Warlock in about 3 months of playing, and two alts in the 20s) and have limited instance runs under my belt &#8211; Ragefire (twice), Wailing Caverns, Razorfen Kraul, Zul&#8217;Farak, SM Library, Hellfire Ramparts, and Blood Furnace. My wife, daughter (Hunter), and I tried to 3 man Sunken Temple as 54s and were PWNed due to lack of healing.</p>
<p>I would like to do two^H^H^H three ^H^H^H^H^H among the things I&#8217;d like to do before WotLK are:<br />
 &#8211; ding 70. Likely to happen, as my (casual) guild is helping to get my wife (Warrior) leveled ASAP to start Kara raiding.<br />
 &#8211; get a bear mount. Not likely to happen, am I&#8217;m not qualified by time or temperment to be in a serious raiding guild. Don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ll have time to gear up. Although there is a group doing runs on our server for 10K gold&#8230;..<br />
 &#8211; see Nax and Onyxia in their original splendor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some discussion on our server&#8217;s forum about old-world raids and there is an Alliance player (I&#8217;m &#8220;For the Horde!&#8221;) trying to up for PUG runs. One I ding 70, maybe I&#8217;ll try to do the same for Horde&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Blacknimbus</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8748</link>
		<dc:creator>Blacknimbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I picked up City of Heroes last week on a whim.  A buddy of mine has played for 3 years or so and has been bugging me to try it.  I&#039;ve played WoW since OB and am getting a little weary with Kara/ZA/SSC, and don&#039;t feel much like getting my rogue from 67 to 70 to run the same content.

CoH is actually a lot of fun and a different than I expected.  It&#039;s sort of a super hero game, but mostly it&#039;s a design whatever the heck you want and blow stuff up big time right out of the gate.  And the community is really nice so far.  Plus you can actually get a group for things without waiting an hour and group makeup isn&#039;t as critical as it is in WoW.

I went ahead and bought the box (and a new video card) after doing my first level 2 Sewer team.  Fire/Fire ftw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up City of Heroes last week on a whim.  A buddy of mine has played for 3 years or so and has been bugging me to try it.  I&#8217;ve played WoW since OB and am getting a little weary with Kara/ZA/SSC, and don&#8217;t feel much like getting my rogue from 67 to 70 to run the same content.</p>
<p>CoH is actually a lot of fun and a different than I expected.  It&#8217;s sort of a super hero game, but mostly it&#8217;s a design whatever the heck you want and blow stuff up big time right out of the gate.  And the community is really nice so far.  Plus you can actually get a group for things without waiting an hour and group makeup isn&#8217;t as critical as it is in WoW.</p>
<p>I went ahead and bought the box (and a new video card) after doing my first level 2 Sewer team.  Fire/Fire ftw!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashendar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashendar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, nice blog site John.  Been reading your posts at WoW insider for a while now.  Keep up the good work.

Moving on, our guild did a retro raid of Molten Core over the last couple days and cleared the place tonight.  We did so with around 10 people over each night, generally in Kara level gear.  It was good seeing what all the fuss was all about - i never got the chance to see the old world raid instances as i did not hit 60 till just after BC.  

Its interesting seeing the various boss fights, story lines, quests and how little things have changed, such as Blizzard&#039;s improved armor and weapon design, improved itemization for classes and specs (booo lack of feral gear in the old world) and improved handling of respawns.  

I also look forward to the forthcoming widespread introduction of 10 person raids in WotLK.  I saw my brothers and friends guild collapse under the weight of raiding Molten Core - and many did not come back for the expansion after that.  The 10 person format is just so much better for small guilds like ours which are more casual oriented.  They are easier to organise and coordinate, let you see more of the end game, and you get to know better the people you raid with.    

Cheers,
Ashendar - Bloodscalp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, nice blog site John.  Been reading your posts at WoW insider for a while now.  Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Moving on, our guild did a retro raid of Molten Core over the last couple days and cleared the place tonight.  We did so with around 10 people over each night, generally in Kara level gear.  It was good seeing what all the fuss was all about &#8211; i never got the chance to see the old world raid instances as i did not hit 60 till just after BC.  </p>
<p>Its interesting seeing the various boss fights, story lines, quests and how little things have changed, such as Blizzard&#8217;s improved armor and weapon design, improved itemization for classes and specs (booo lack of feral gear in the old world) and improved handling of respawns.  </p>
<p>I also look forward to the forthcoming widespread introduction of 10 person raids in WotLK.  I saw my brothers and friends guild collapse under the weight of raiding Molten Core &#8211; and many did not come back for the expansion after that.  The 10 person format is just so much better for small guilds like ours which are more casual oriented.  They are easier to organise and coordinate, let you see more of the end game, and you get to know better the people you raid with.    </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ashendar &#8211; Bloodscalp</p>
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		<title>By: Cannislupis</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8737</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannislupis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of funny, my guild is a bunch or real life friends and we just got to the point where we have a five man worth of level 70s. We&#039;ve been working on gearing up the 3 newer characters for kara. Last night decided to poke around in ZG, just for the hell of it. to keep it a bit challenging we decided we wouldn&#039;t do any research on it (no boss notes, no walkthroughs). had a lot of fun, took down the bat and snake bosses.

I think its a shame that with the gear gap that people don&#039;t run any of this stuff anymore, it can be a lot of fun and its still &quot;new&quot; content for a lot of us.

Great post and great blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny, my guild is a bunch or real life friends and we just got to the point where we have a five man worth of level 70s. We&#8217;ve been working on gearing up the 3 newer characters for kara. Last night decided to poke around in ZG, just for the hell of it. to keep it a bit challenging we decided we wouldn&#8217;t do any research on it (no boss notes, no walkthroughs). had a lot of fun, took down the bat and snake bosses.</p>
<p>I think its a shame that with the gear gap that people don&#8217;t run any of this stuff anymore, it can be a lot of fun and its still &#8220;new&#8221; content for a lot of us.</p>
<p>Great post and great blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kheldar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8733</link>
		<dc:creator>Kheldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep i loved the old school stuff. i&#039;ve played Wow sincei joined the EU Final Beta and then from day 1 so i&#039;ve done most of the levelling instances although not all - and i&#039;m someone who went to Gnomegan once and never again !

it seemed to me &#039;more&#039; fun in those days as people we actively interested in doing most instances and some you had to for attunements for other places like MC or you needed to run them to get your class gear set like our druid Wildheart one !

its funny but a couple of guildies who have only played since BC ended up with some people they know in MC at the weekend. they were not there for any reason other than they had not seen it.

i&#039;d still like to get together with people and hit Naax - i got attuned about 18 months ago but my raid guild folded and i then have not raided properly since. i&#039;d also like to go back and visit Neffy again as well as Ony.

and another guildie whose played since the start did suggest we spent a bit of time and just went to have a look around the likes of Strat / Scholo / DM etc

had some really fun times doing guild runs in U and L BRS.  UBRS for a time was a 15 man place wasn&#039;t it ? Then reduced to 10 man? Or am i going nuts ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep i loved the old school stuff. i&#8217;ve played Wow sincei joined the EU Final Beta and then from day 1 so i&#8217;ve done most of the levelling instances although not all &#8211; and i&#8217;m someone who went to Gnomegan once and never again !</p>
<p>it seemed to me &#8216;more&#8217; fun in those days as people we actively interested in doing most instances and some you had to for attunements for other places like MC or you needed to run them to get your class gear set like our druid Wildheart one !</p>
<p>its funny but a couple of guildies who have only played since BC ended up with some people they know in MC at the weekend. they were not there for any reason other than they had not seen it.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d still like to get together with people and hit Naax &#8211; i got attuned about 18 months ago but my raid guild folded and i then have not raided properly since. i&#8217;d also like to go back and visit Neffy again as well as Ony.</p>
<p>and another guildie whose played since the start did suggest we spent a bit of time and just went to have a look around the likes of Strat / Scholo / DM etc</p>
<p>had some really fun times doing guild runs in U and L BRS.  UBRS for a time was a 15 man place wasn&#8217;t it ? Then reduced to 10 man? Or am i going nuts ?</p>
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		<title>By: lethal</title>
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		<dc:creator>lethal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mate insists on getting his Turtle tome for his mage. Currently we 3 man it, works a charm :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mate insists on getting his Turtle tome for his mage. Currently we 3 man it, works a charm :P</p>
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		<title>By: Wildhermit</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/04/are-you-really-bored/comment-page-1/#comment-8731</link>
		<dc:creator>Wildhermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been there and done that. I raided before BC. Not bragging, just setting up to follow.... I did it for loot. I hated it. I never said to myself... &quot;Self... MC rocks just because it rocks.&quot; It was fun for new content. It was fun to see the bosses in ZG. It was fun to play in AQ. It was fun to even attempt BWL. That was all.

Having said that, I can honestly say Kara is a blast. ZA is a blast. My guild is made of mostly people that are just in the game for fun. There are maybe 20 of us, MAX, that have any inclination to raid. We do Kara weekly. We have recently added ZA to the mix. However, we just do not have the manpower to try anything more. We are not really a raid guild. We are geared... but we are there just to have fun. 

I greatly look forward to LK, hoping that it will offer many more Kara experiences. 

Currently we have an OSN (Old School Night) set up just to do old content. We have a slow growing group of people we are moving through this stuff. Lots of fun BBB, great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been there and done that. I raided before BC. Not bragging, just setting up to follow&#8230;. I did it for loot. I hated it. I never said to myself&#8230; &#8220;Self&#8230; MC rocks just because it rocks.&#8221; It was fun for new content. It was fun to see the bosses in ZG. It was fun to play in AQ. It was fun to even attempt BWL. That was all.</p>
<p>Having said that, I can honestly say Kara is a blast. ZA is a blast. My guild is made of mostly people that are just in the game for fun. There are maybe 20 of us, MAX, that have any inclination to raid. We do Kara weekly. We have recently added ZA to the mix. However, we just do not have the manpower to try anything more. We are not really a raid guild. We are geared&#8230; but we are there just to have fun. </p>
<p>I greatly look forward to LK, hoping that it will offer many more Kara experiences. </p>
<p>Currently we have an OSN (Old School Night) set up just to do old content. We have a slow growing group of people we are moving through this stuff. Lots of fun BBB, great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Myze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My entire guild was built around the idea the all the Wrath raids will be 10mannable. There are 10 people in the guild and I&#039;m leaving it that way. It makes it a lot easier to manage when there are but a few people, and it&#039;s easier to design the guild so that everyone goes to every run always. Unless real life calls, of course. Pugging with this setup isn&#039;t very hard either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My entire guild was built around the idea the all the Wrath raids will be 10mannable. There are 10 people in the guild and I&#8217;m leaving it that way. It makes it a lot easier to manage when there are but a few people, and it&#8217;s easier to design the guild so that everyone goes to every run always. Unless real life calls, of course. Pugging with this setup isn&#8217;t very hard either.</p>
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