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	<title>Comments on: Guild ninja loot drama omigod wait wut!?!</title>
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		<title>By: Bobo &#38; SgtPork</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9131</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobo &#38; SgtPork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any thought that &quot;Lavacake&quot; is &quot;Thestinker&quot;s alt?  Is there any way to identify toons as being on the same account?</description>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9123</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People can defend him all they want, you&#039;re more than welcome to whatever interpretation you care for.

I have delighted in posting this.

Why? 

Because the very next time someone from his guild, who has been in his guild now for almost two stinking years, has the brass balls to tell me I&#039;m a liar and demand that I come up with proof about an event that Thesphinx has been denying happened since he did it last Thanksgiving, gets in my face to tell me that Thesphinx is the kindest sweetest smartest most awesome GM in history, and proceeds to NOT DROP IT but continue to bother me on whispers non stop for 45 minutes when I am trying to play....

I can link this one post, and say, &quot;Shut The Fuck Up&quot;. 

THAT is where this came from. It&#039;s been forever since this shit happened, I had forgotten these people even existed. I had to ask Ikurah what the hell he was talking about, and who the hell he was. 

From the way some of you talk, you&#039;d think I walked around dwelling on this shit all day every day, dreaming of ways to get even or tank on these bozos. 

Here is a tip; If ya&#039;ll don&#039;t bring none, there won&#039;t be none.

If you screwed up or played the ninja card, don&#039;t go trying to convince other people it didn&#039;t happen. Just shut up, and ignore the people that remind others of the truth. Either that, or try to make things right. Lying to hide your own screwups ain&#039;t a sign of integrity or maturity.

But once you bring it home, and try and redeem your image by telling everyone that it never ever happened? Yeah, don&#039;t go whining to me if you can&#039;t take what happens next. 

It&#039;s been almost a year. So, he&#039;s getting closer to 16 all the time... and still the GM of this guild, which assumes that people still love his ass and trust him. 

Here&#039;s an idea... admit your past mistakes, ask forgiveness (and not from me, damn it, you never screwed me, you screwed Legatum and now tried to tarnish Joppers image, go talk to them), and determine on your own to go forth and do the right thing from now on. 

Try it, it might work. the worst that will happen, is you might start to take a few steps towards growing up. 

Making a mistake is one thing, everybody can have a lapse in judgment. But fighting the consequences tooth and nail for 9 months is bullshit, and getting others in your guild to fight your fights for you is bullshit.

As Denis Leary once said... &quot;Life sucks. Get a helmet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People can defend him all they want, you&#8217;re more than welcome to whatever interpretation you care for.</p>
<p>I have delighted in posting this.</p>
<p>Why? </p>
<p>Because the very next time someone from his guild, who has been in his guild now for almost two stinking years, has the brass balls to tell me I&#8217;m a liar and demand that I come up with proof about an event that Thesphinx has been denying happened since he did it last Thanksgiving, gets in my face to tell me that Thesphinx is the kindest sweetest smartest most awesome GM in history, and proceeds to NOT DROP IT but continue to bother me on whispers non stop for 45 minutes when I am trying to play&#8230;.</p>
<p>I can link this one post, and say, &#8220;Shut The Fuck Up&#8221;. </p>
<p>THAT is where this came from. It&#8217;s been forever since this shit happened, I had forgotten these people even existed. I had to ask Ikurah what the hell he was talking about, and who the hell he was. </p>
<p>From the way some of you talk, you&#8217;d think I walked around dwelling on this shit all day every day, dreaming of ways to get even or tank on these bozos. </p>
<p>Here is a tip; If ya&#8217;ll don&#8217;t bring none, there won&#8217;t be none.</p>
<p>If you screwed up or played the ninja card, don&#8217;t go trying to convince other people it didn&#8217;t happen. Just shut up, and ignore the people that remind others of the truth. Either that, or try to make things right. Lying to hide your own screwups ain&#8217;t a sign of integrity or maturity.</p>
<p>But once you bring it home, and try and redeem your image by telling everyone that it never ever happened? Yeah, don&#8217;t go whining to me if you can&#8217;t take what happens next. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been almost a year. So, he&#8217;s getting closer to 16 all the time&#8230; and still the GM of this guild, which assumes that people still love his ass and trust him. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea&#8230; admit your past mistakes, ask forgiveness (and not from me, damn it, you never screwed me, you screwed Legatum and now tried to tarnish Joppers image, go talk to them), and determine on your own to go forth and do the right thing from now on. </p>
<p>Try it, it might work. the worst that will happen, is you might start to take a few steps towards growing up. </p>
<p>Making a mistake is one thing, everybody can have a lapse in judgment. But fighting the consequences tooth and nail for 9 months is bullshit, and getting others in your guild to fight your fights for you is bullshit.</p>
<p>As Denis Leary once said&#8230; &#8220;Life sucks. Get a helmet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sid67</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9121</link>
		<dc:creator>sid67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you remember being a freshmen in High School?  Do you remember how certain things took on a silly stupid amount of importance?  Sure, you were old enough to act like an adult some of the time, but that doesn’t mean you have the world experience to act that way &lt;b&gt;ALL&lt;/b&gt; of the time.  Every 15 year-old in the world will say and do stupid things.  That’s part of how we gain our life experiences.  A 15 year old adolescent is part child, part adult – so it is entirely unfair to hold them to the same standards you would hold someone older.  It’s the difference between thinking they should know better and &lt;i&gt;KNOWING&lt;/i&gt; that they know better.

Anonymity makes online worlds a funny place.  Many of us would not willingly spend large amounts of leisure time with someone that age if it weren’t for the context of the game.  And for that exact reason – I don’t want to play with 15 year olds because, well – sometimes they are going to act like a 15 year old.  It doesn’t excuse the behavior, but as the adult in the situation I would like to think that I can exercise common sense and not lower myself to the High School mentality. 

I feel a different emotion when I see young adolescents in this situation, particularly when it backfires.  &lt;b&gt;Pity.&lt;/b&gt;  Not because they are 15, but because I remember what it felt to be an insecure 15 year old who built up false expectations about what is important in life.  I pity them because of all the stupid stuff they think is important that really isn’t.  

I thought the story was funny up until the point at which I read that he was 15.  At that point I thought – Oh, well that explains it.  And I felt pity.  It does not excuse it, but it explains it.  So while warning people away from playing with a 15 year old is warranted, mocking him on the internet is not.

It’s not prejudiced to treat a child as a child or an adolescent as an adolescent.  It’s very noble to try and treat people based solely on how they express their ideas, but that lacks one very important element: Context.  We often forgive the grieving widow her harsh words because we know that she is in pain.  We use context to interpret the expressed ideas.  At times we may put more weight to the words and at other times we should put less.  When nasty things are said, it doesn’t excuse them but sometimes context can explain them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you remember being a freshmen in High School?  Do you remember how certain things took on a silly stupid amount of importance?  Sure, you were old enough to act like an adult some of the time, but that doesn’t mean you have the world experience to act that way <b>ALL</b> of the time.  Every 15 year-old in the world will say and do stupid things.  That’s part of how we gain our life experiences.  A 15 year old adolescent is part child, part adult – so it is entirely unfair to hold them to the same standards you would hold someone older.  It’s the difference between thinking they should know better and <i>KNOWING</i> that they know better.</p>
<p>Anonymity makes online worlds a funny place.  Many of us would not willingly spend large amounts of leisure time with someone that age if it weren’t for the context of the game.  And for that exact reason – I don’t want to play with 15 year olds because, well – sometimes they are going to act like a 15 year old.  It doesn’t excuse the behavior, but as the adult in the situation I would like to think that I can exercise common sense and not lower myself to the High School mentality. </p>
<p>I feel a different emotion when I see young adolescents in this situation, particularly when it backfires.  <b>Pity.</b>  Not because they are 15, but because I remember what it felt to be an insecure 15 year old who built up false expectations about what is important in life.  I pity them because of all the stupid stuff they think is important that really isn’t.  </p>
<p>I thought the story was funny up until the point at which I read that he was 15.  At that point I thought – Oh, well that explains it.  And I felt pity.  It does not excuse it, but it explains it.  So while warning people away from playing with a 15 year old is warranted, mocking him on the internet is not.</p>
<p>It’s not prejudiced to treat a child as a child or an adolescent as an adolescent.  It’s very noble to try and treat people based solely on how they express their ideas, but that lacks one very important element: Context.  We often forgive the grieving widow her harsh words because we know that she is in pain.  We use context to interpret the expressed ideas.  At times we may put more weight to the words and at other times we should put less.  When nasty things are said, it doesn’t excuse them but sometimes context can explain them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post, but I&#039;ve been reading for a few months now, and I have to say, this is my favorite wow blog (even above Wow Insider.) You are a skilled writer John and you always entertain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post, but I&#8217;ve been reading for a few months now, and I have to say, this is my favorite wow blog (even above Wow Insider.) You are a skilled writer John and you always entertain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to use age as your defense. Is he saying that he didn&#039;t learn the basic rules of decent human interaction until he was 15? Sounds more like a plea to be let off the hook to me. A person is fully capable of living independently of their parents at 15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to use age as your defense. Is he saying that he didn&#8217;t learn the basic rules of decent human interaction until he was 15? Sounds more like a plea to be let off the hook to me. A person is fully capable of living independently of their parents at 15.</p>
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		<title>By: Lassirra</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9059</link>
		<dc:creator>Lassirra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the part I loved the best was that he looted..... wait for it....
Girdle of &lt;em&gt;Treachery&lt;/em&gt;.

Classic.

What a douche. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the part I loved the best was that he looted&#8230;.. wait for it&#8230;.<br />
Girdle of <em>Treachery</em>.</p>
<p>Classic.</p>
<p>What a douche. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elton</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9056</link>
		<dc:creator>Elton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lolerpost - Each post has a 40% of being hilarious
Tank with my FACE - Immunity to flaming ninja noobs
B^3 - Awesomeness + 90%
omgnowai - He can write AND tank!

Another pure win story :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lolerpost &#8211; Each post has a 40% of being hilarious<br />
Tank with my FACE &#8211; Immunity to flaming ninja noobs<br />
B^3 &#8211; Awesomeness + 90%<br />
omgnowai &#8211; He can write AND tank!</p>
<p>Another pure win story :)</p>
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		<title>By: Heather B</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9055</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is epic and so hilarious.  Some people just don&#039;t know when to shut up.</description>
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		<title>By: Kaiyote</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/13/guild-ninja-loot-drama-omigod-wait-wut/comment-page-1/#comment-9054</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karellen

 &quot;He of the Butt is regaling us with his craft &quot;

So, what are the stats for &#039;of the Butt&#039;??

+250 to Wordcount
Increase paragraph crit by 20
Increase storytelling by 42

Great story B^3!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karellen</p>
<p> &#8220;He of the Butt is regaling us with his craft &#8221;</p>
<p>So, what are the stats for &#8216;of the Butt&#8217;??</p>
<p>+250 to Wordcount<br />
Increase paragraph crit by 20<br />
Increase storytelling by 42</p>
<p>Great story B^3!</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siobhann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not usually a fan of drama, but this is pure win to read.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not usually a fan of drama, but this is pure win to read.  :-)</p>
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