Comments on: A Raiders thoughts on the pre-WotLK patch

By: bbr

bbr — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:43:59 +0000

It won’t be the end of the world i’m sure.
It will be a whole new game to play though.

New profession changes, classes and talents changes, buff stacking different, all new items.
Yet it’s still the same game in a way.

By: nefer

nefer — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:56:56 +0000

the changes with 2.0 pre bc were far more significant i think. pvp was a total mess as skills were set for the improved stamina amount on bc items. hunters twoshot clothies in battlegrounds.

and i dont think the changes will come anytime soon. take druids for example. last time i read blizz still lacked a concept for tanking bears to make up for the loss of armor on leather items im wotlk. will theses changes go life too? will i have maxed armor on a bear in greens because of the changed mechanics?

other things a definitly a good idea concerning my classes (feral) druid and mage. they are lacking- especially in pvp.

as i see blizz did a lot for them in wotlk. <3 dudu changes :)

By: Felkan

Felkan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:27:33 +0000

@me: I don’t recall as many game mechanics changing with BC as they are doing with LK. There were quite a few “new” skills/talents and a few mechanic changes, but with LK it seems like there are few new skills/talents and a **huge** number of mechanic changes. Maybe that’s why this may be a bit more painful than the pre-BC patch.

Frankly, it has to happen, it is not like LK can be released overnight and it would all work perfectly. 3-4 weeks on Live before its released gives Blizzard a bit of data before they go and burn those DVDs.

By: Felkan

Felkan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:08:19 +0000

Blizzard did the same thing just before BC was released. What happened then? I don’t recall as I wasn’t at lvl 60 at the time.

By: ARA

ARA — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:53:03 +0000

Oh man, I read a post on matticus a few days ago about this. I think whoever wrote that post is rather crazy. His points made no sense to me. “Prot warriors no longer able to tank Illidan”? I mean come one! Illidan is Blizzard’s flagship boss right now. Thats a crazy statement to make.

So I think the orginal poster did the WoW community a big dis-service, writing this kind of junk… just look how it spreads. As a hardcore raider who lives & breathes to kill new bosses, I think none of us have anything to worry about – except maybe as you suggest BBB, some content nerfs :) Some raiders really do hate that! You gotta laugh…

(I’ve even heard speculations that bears will be able to tank Illidan – now thats my kind of rumor!!!)

By: Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:55:42 +0000

I am in the camp that believes that the sky is not falling for raiding…at all. It simply means that people will have to adapt and overcome, or they will quit. If they quit, they have no one to blame but themselves for not doing the things they want to do.

Besides, big patches usually spend a very long time on the PTR before they go live, giving more than adequate time (at least a month, I’m guessing) for players to adjust their gear accordingly.

And, yes, I remember the same thing BBB. ;)

By: Morthog

Morthog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:16:59 +0000

I’ve played alot on wacrafter with the upcoming changes simply on the Defense’ive side of things. Bottom line – is I need 100badges for a new BP (oh wait – I just spent 75 on my current BP last week) and I need to put on my 32 defense trinket to compensate.

I’m aggravated – since today I can tank kara, post -patch I will not be able too…without gear changes which for me – are not-insignificant.

Threat issues will be fine – as spell dmg/AP and STR gear will slowly change over. However – introducing the talent and mechanic changes – without itemization to go with…is dangerous …IMO.

By: Graimerin

Graimerin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:23:57 +0000

Actually im on the other side of the fence on this issues. As i wrote yesterday im my blog I want the extra spell dmg/spell power so i can can set my spell rotation etc. set pre xpac. I can dig up the lose of 20 def rating with a armor kit change or a trinket change. I remember the pre bc changes nicely as pallys in brd dire maul etc we finally could tank those. Its a change and as any change I/we will have to learn to function in the new enviorment but at least I/we will do it on fights we know not an unknown situation

By: Morthog

Morthog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:12:28 +0000

I guess I should have replied here – but with the loss of +20 defense and all the threat changes to pallies. Without new gear to compensate for the itemization losses – I’ll be on vacation until I read about a solution so that I don’t get crit anymore in Kara :(

By: Mitch

Mitch — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:11 +0000

So, I’m not quite sure it’s covered anywhere, but is the agility nerf coming out with the patch or at the expansion? Any idea?