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	<title>Comments on: An Open Letter to Gun Lovin&#8217; Dwarf Chick</title>
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		<title>By: bearmeup</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9533</link>
		<dc:creator>bearmeup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All &quot;Gun Lovin’ Dwarf Chick&quot; tells me is that the author plays a female dwarven hunter - it doesn&#039;t tell me anything about his/her the gender. 

I don&#039;t get the issue though, I really don&#039;t. As far as I&#039;m concerned people are allowed to call their blogs whatever they want, personally I prefer the word pun&#039;s but if someone wants to tell you their name, gender, race, whatever in their blog title then it&#039;s fine with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All &#8220;Gun Lovin’ Dwarf Chick&#8221; tells me is that the author plays a female dwarven hunter &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t tell me anything about his/her the gender. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the issue though, I really don&#8217;t. As far as I&#8217;m concerned people are allowed to call their blogs whatever they want, personally I prefer the word pun&#8217;s but if someone wants to tell you their name, gender, race, whatever in their blog title then it&#8217;s fine with me.</p>
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		<title>By: bbr</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9528</link>
		<dc:creator>bbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s plenty of female gamers out there if you keep an eye out for them though.
Funny enough the majority tends to be healers somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s plenty of female gamers out there if you keep an eye out for them though.<br />
Funny enough the majority tends to be healers somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Tydo</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9506</link>
		<dc:creator>Tydo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To completely avoid the primary subject of discussion (I personally think it&#039;s awesome that there are a growing number of girl gamers out there and I believe that they can bring and have brought a lot of good things to the game), I don&#039;t think that you should worry about covering something that someone else has already covered, BBB.  You&#039;re honest and straightforward enough to mention that someone else has done a great job on something and help to expose the rest of us to all of the other great bloggers out there and I certainly appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To completely avoid the primary subject of discussion (I personally think it&#8217;s awesome that there are a growing number of girl gamers out there and I believe that they can bring and have brought a lot of good things to the game), I don&#8217;t think that you should worry about covering something that someone else has already covered, BBB.  You&#8217;re honest and straightforward enough to mention that someone else has done a great job on something and help to expose the rest of us to all of the other great bloggers out there and I certainly appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9505</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joss Whedon was asked by a reporter.. 

&quot;So, why do you write these strong female characters?&quot;

His answer, &quot;Because you’re still asking me that question.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joss Whedon was asked by a reporter.. </p>
<p>&#8220;So, why do you write these strong female characters?&#8221;</p>
<p>His answer, &#8220;Because you’re still asking me that question.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ally</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9504</link>
		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this aside, you know what freaks people out more than a woman playing? A lot more? My 65 year old mother playing games. ;D She&#039;s a Final Fantasy addict who recently bought an XBOX and got into Mass Effect. Hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this aside, you know what freaks people out more than a woman playing? A lot more? My 65 year old mother playing games. ;D She&#8217;s a Final Fantasy addict who recently bought an XBOX and got into Mass Effect. Hee.</p>
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		<title>By: Valyre</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9502</link>
		<dc:creator>Valyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe the rant is a bit off-base.  It&#039;s one thing to announce to the world via your blog title that you&#039;re a girl gamer.  There&#039;s plenty of examples of that around.  But why would you think that this would even remotely apply to &quot;Gun Lovin&#039; Dwarf Chick&quot;?

You (and apparently GLDC) have honed in on &quot;Chick.&quot;  Not &quot;Dwarf Chick&quot; which is a description of her character.  Where&#039;s the same outrage from Ratshag and his &quot;Red Hawt Dwarf Chick&quot; posts?  Why isn&#039;t he upset?  Maybe it&#039;s because as a guy, he realizes that it doesn&#039;t apply to him.  But because GLDC is a female player, it MUST apply to her because it was a callout to girl players?

The name of your blog doesn&#039;t have to be a direct reflection of the author.  I no more think that BBB is a bear or has a giant behind irl than I think GLDC is really a dwarf with a closet full of sawed-off shotguns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe the rant is a bit off-base.  It&#8217;s one thing to announce to the world via your blog title that you&#8217;re a girl gamer.  There&#8217;s plenty of examples of that around.  But why would you think that this would even remotely apply to &#8220;Gun Lovin&#8217; Dwarf Chick&#8221;?</p>
<p>You (and apparently GLDC) have honed in on &#8220;Chick.&#8221;  Not &#8220;Dwarf Chick&#8221; which is a description of her character.  Where&#8217;s the same outrage from Ratshag and his &#8220;Red Hawt Dwarf Chick&#8221; posts?  Why isn&#8217;t he upset?  Maybe it&#8217;s because as a guy, he realizes that it doesn&#8217;t apply to him.  But because GLDC is a female player, it MUST apply to her because it was a callout to girl players?</p>
<p>The name of your blog doesn&#8217;t have to be a direct reflection of the author.  I no more think that BBB is a bear or has a giant behind irl than I think GLDC is really a dwarf with a closet full of sawed-off shotguns.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say I always assumed the &#039;their are no girls on the internets&#039; people were always being ironic. Perhaps because I&#039;ve known so many women who play warcraft, and even one who didn&#039;t seem to find the problem with taking ingame gifts and such from people because she was female.

Aside from that. The only way to respond to real ingame harrassment is to not allow it to continue. Don&#039;t respond with wit, don&#039;t respond in kind, just respond with a firm statement of how innapropriate the comments are and you want them to stop right now. Say &#039;no, you will not speak to me that way&#039; and stand up for yourself. 

The comments don&#039;t stop, you leave and you do not return. Simple as. Is it a cop out to leave? No. You are having the guts to take yourself out of a very bad situation. This goes for any type of uncomfortable situation you end up in when people are not respecting you.

And screenies are your friend if it ever comes to having to defend yourself. If you have never responed in kind, or trying to pass off the comments with wit, the people harrassing will not have the thinnest of &#039;it was a misunderstanding&#039; legs to stand on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say I always assumed the &#8216;their are no girls on the internets&#8217; people were always being ironic. Perhaps because I&#8217;ve known so many women who play warcraft, and even one who didn&#8217;t seem to find the problem with taking ingame gifts and such from people because she was female.</p>
<p>Aside from that. The only way to respond to real ingame harrassment is to not allow it to continue. Don&#8217;t respond with wit, don&#8217;t respond in kind, just respond with a firm statement of how innapropriate the comments are and you want them to stop right now. Say &#8216;no, you will not speak to me that way&#8217; and stand up for yourself. </p>
<p>The comments don&#8217;t stop, you leave and you do not return. Simple as. Is it a cop out to leave? No. You are having the guts to take yourself out of a very bad situation. This goes for any type of uncomfortable situation you end up in when people are not respecting you.</p>
<p>And screenies are your friend if it ever comes to having to defend yourself. If you have never responed in kind, or trying to pass off the comments with wit, the people harrassing will not have the thinnest of &#8216;it was a misunderstanding&#8217; legs to stand on.</p>
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		<title>By: nefer</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9499</link>
		<dc:creator>nefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah well interesting topic.

when i still played wow by the time i had, after playing since us open beta, build myself some kind of base to play with. playing on one of the oldest german servers i never had that much of those feared pugs tbh.

when i started to organise we had a few girls in our kara run (ah good times) and i honestly always enjoyed playing with them- not because they were girls but - careful prejudice incoming- they always seemed to be more team oriented and not that lootwhorish and egoistic. and yes that makes them in fact better players ;)

while nobody of us would have permitted sexist comments i cannot remember a single case where we had trouble with that, but i recognise this as a widespread problem.

i think this comes from all the boys playing computer games. the pc doesn&#039;t require social skills and people with a deficit are attrackted to pcs for them not beeing confronted with it. not saying only those play but some definitly ;)

and as they are still young some might not be that certain about their manhood and feel threatened by girls in &quot;their&quot; game- another justification for sexist comments in computer games comes not to my mind.

as wow picked up momentum and lost some of its geekish touch more and more people were interested. i even think that it was played by so many people attacked even more girls, as it seems to me girls choose to play by different reasons. more often they want so socialise with others and where is a better place to do that than an mmo?

hmm tbh i played wow also for the interaction with others...hmm think i have to rethink my theory...or what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah well interesting topic.</p>
<p>when i still played wow by the time i had, after playing since us open beta, build myself some kind of base to play with. playing on one of the oldest german servers i never had that much of those feared pugs tbh.</p>
<p>when i started to organise we had a few girls in our kara run (ah good times) and i honestly always enjoyed playing with them- not because they were girls but &#8211; careful prejudice incoming- they always seemed to be more team oriented and not that lootwhorish and egoistic. and yes that makes them in fact better players ;)</p>
<p>while nobody of us would have permitted sexist comments i cannot remember a single case where we had trouble with that, but i recognise this as a widespread problem.</p>
<p>i think this comes from all the boys playing computer games. the pc doesn&#8217;t require social skills and people with a deficit are attrackted to pcs for them not beeing confronted with it. not saying only those play but some definitly ;)</p>
<p>and as they are still young some might not be that certain about their manhood and feel threatened by girls in &#8220;their&#8221; game- another justification for sexist comments in computer games comes not to my mind.</p>
<p>as wow picked up momentum and lost some of its geekish touch more and more people were interested. i even think that it was played by so many people attacked even more girls, as it seems to me girls choose to play by different reasons. more often they want so socialise with others and where is a better place to do that than an mmo?</p>
<p>hmm tbh i played wow also for the interaction with others&#8230;hmm think i have to rethink my theory&#8230;or what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9498</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taurack,

If you read far enough into BBB&#039;s original post, you will see his point: When &quot;World of Warcraft&quot; was first released, it had a lot of barriers to break down, but now, many of those barriers have been entirely dismantled and forgotten. The reason that you can say, today, &quot;WHO CARES?&quot; is because so much time has passed, and the Warcraft community (not to mention the entirety of the gaming community) has made so much progress toward looking for a player&#039;s SKILL rather than their CHROMOSOMES, that you actually feel comfortable largely ignoring this particular argument.

Personally, I agree with you. &quot;Who cares?&quot; If a guy can shoot arrows into Onyxia&#039;s enormous eyes with the precision of his female counterparts, then the gender argument is a moot point.

However, saying that &quot;there is no awareness,&quot; &quot;Narcissism,&quot; or &quot;sexploitation&quot; is absolutely, irrefutably incorrect. For awareness, you need look no further than the very subject of this post; for Narcissism and sexploitation, you only have to do a little digging to find any of the female players (such as the so-called &quot;Game Dame&quot; or the Frag Dolls, linked above) who flaunt their sexuality as an excuse for receiving superior treatment in all they do. They take the oft-maligned adage - &quot;If you&#039;ve got it, flaunt it&quot; - to a new extreme. Pretending that gamers like these do not exist does not make it true.

Thankfully there are approachable human beings in this community, such as Breana and Brajana (hope I spelled those correctly!), who continue to prove that the so-called &quot;gender divide&quot; doesn&#039;t have to be a &quot;divide&quot; at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taurack,</p>
<p>If you read far enough into BBB&#8217;s original post, you will see his point: When &#8220;World of Warcraft&#8221; was first released, it had a lot of barriers to break down, but now, many of those barriers have been entirely dismantled and forgotten. The reason that you can say, today, &#8220;WHO CARES?&#8221; is because so much time has passed, and the Warcraft community (not to mention the entirety of the gaming community) has made so much progress toward looking for a player&#8217;s SKILL rather than their CHROMOSOMES, that you actually feel comfortable largely ignoring this particular argument.</p>
<p>Personally, I agree with you. &#8220;Who cares?&#8221; If a guy can shoot arrows into Onyxia&#8217;s enormous eyes with the precision of his female counterparts, then the gender argument is a moot point.</p>
<p>However, saying that &#8220;there is no awareness,&#8221; &#8220;Narcissism,&#8221; or &#8220;sexploitation&#8221; is absolutely, irrefutably incorrect. For awareness, you need look no further than the very subject of this post; for Narcissism and sexploitation, you only have to do a little digging to find any of the female players (such as the so-called &#8220;Game Dame&#8221; or the Frag Dolls, linked above) who flaunt their sexuality as an excuse for receiving superior treatment in all they do. They take the oft-maligned adage &#8211; &#8220;If you&#8217;ve got it, flaunt it&#8221; &#8211; to a new extreme. Pretending that gamers like these do not exist does not make it true.</p>
<p>Thankfully there are approachable human beings in this community, such as Breana and Brajana (hope I spelled those correctly!), who continue to prove that the so-called &#8220;gender divide&#8221; doesn&#8217;t have to be a &#8220;divide&#8221; at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Taurack</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/08/28/an-open-letter-to-gun-lovin-dwarf-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-9496</link>
		<dc:creator>Taurack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have to say... who gives a shite?

Male, female... dude, chick... whether they announce it or not... WHO CARES?  On either side of the fence?;  There is no awareness, there is no narcissism, there is no &quot;sexploitation&quot;... no more than what you make of it.  Jeebus... leave it alone.

Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;ve always been in a guild that has females and just... I don&#039;t get it... all I have to say is...  WHO CARES?

I&#039;ve already written to much on the subject... just wow... people still care about this?  GIRLS PLAY GAMES?  ZOMG?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have to say&#8230; who gives a shite?</p>
<p>Male, female&#8230; dude, chick&#8230; whether they announce it or not&#8230; WHO CARES?  On either side of the fence?;  There is no awareness, there is no narcissism, there is no &#8220;sexploitation&#8221;&#8230; no more than what you make of it.  Jeebus&#8230; leave it alone.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve always been in a guild that has females and just&#8230; I don&#8217;t get it&#8230; all I have to say is&#8230;  WHO CARES?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already written to much on the subject&#8230; just wow&#8230; people still care about this?  GIRLS PLAY GAMES?  ZOMG?</p>
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