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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Jeursey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9663</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeursey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what... it has been such a very long time since I joined the Trade channel that I had honestly forgotten it existed. If your idea of an unlimited /ignore list were ever implemented, maybe I would join it again too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8230; it has been such a very long time since I joined the Trade channel that I had honestly forgotten it existed. If your idea of an unlimited /ignore list were ever implemented, maybe I would join it again too.</p>
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		<title>By: Azretha</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9621</link>
		<dc:creator>Azretha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That &quot;paladins gloating in druid colums&quot; reminds me of the Warhammer fanboys that have been infecting nearly every WoWInsider WOTLK post.

I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be great, but do you really have to bug people on a WoW blog on how much their game sucks according to you ?

Anyway. The thing about LFG is so true :p  
Nearly all my characters are not monitoring Trade - the only one that is, is my bank alt, and I am on him for max 20 minutes a day. After I scan the AH and list my auctions, I log. Away from Trade chat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;paladins gloating in druid colums&#8221; reminds me of the Warhammer fanboys that have been infecting nearly every WoWInsider WOTLK post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be great, but do you really have to bug people on a WoW blog on how much their game sucks according to you ?</p>
<p>Anyway. The thing about LFG is so true :p<br />
Nearly all my characters are not monitoring Trade &#8211; the only one that is, is my bank alt, and I am on him for max 20 minutes a day. After I scan the AH and list my auctions, I log. Away from Trade chat.</p>
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		<title>By: Merry</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9608</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an add-on that shares friend and ignore lists across all my alts, per server. It&#039;s /wonderful/. Now if Blizz would just extend the number of names one could have on an ignore list things would be peachy. Well, I still wish there was a way to make Trade tolerable without /ignores. :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an add-on that shares friend and ignore lists across all my alts, per server. It&#8217;s /wonderful/. Now if Blizz would just extend the number of names one could have on an ignore list things would be peachy. Well, I still wish there was a way to make Trade tolerable without /ignores. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Game Dame</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9602</link>
		<dc:creator>Game Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just keep swimming, just keep swimming... I love Dori!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep swimming, just keep swimming&#8230; I love Dori!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9600</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming around to PvP was an effort for me because my first exposure was exactly what you described . . . the hunter who takes the time to dismount from his epic mount so he can one shot the level 25 druid.  Kind of an annoyance when all I want to do is finish my questing, right?

But eventually there was this time a random hunter I found wandering around Ashenvale and myself in our late 20s level range came across a mid 30s orc.  We stopped.  I asked my new friend, &quot;You want to jump him?&quot; and he said, &quot;I dunno&#039;, do you?&quot;  and before I could type, &quot;not really&quot; he&#039;d typed, &quot;ok then,&quot; marked the orc and taken a shot. Nothin&#039; to do but join in at that point.  And we beat him.  First blood.  Tasted good.  

A couple more good fights like that and I decided that win or lose, as long as the fight was relatively fair, world PvP is a good thing.  And by fair I mean the characters are roughly the same level.  There&#039;s a chance that you could either win the fight or at least, maybe, get away if you didn&#039;t want the fight.  All in all, knowing that contested areas were dangerous, that I have to watch over my shoulder for enemy players is exciting.  It adds an edge to the game that I never saw playing in the safe controlled zones or playing with my brother on his PvE server.

Then I hit level 39 and while I waited a couple weeks for guildies to return from vacation before we finished off Scarlet Monestary I figured, &quot;hey, maybe I&#039;ll try out these battlegrounds my kids tell me are so much fun.&quot;  And oh, man, are they ever.  It&#039;s like a video game with really, really good AI. LOL.

Then I started thinking, you know, the problem with world PvP is getting outclassed by level ?? characters, right?  Battlegrounds kind of fix that, but lack the edge that comes along with uncertainty.  I mean, you know you&#039;re going to be attacked on the BG, that&#039;s what it&#039;s there for.  In world PvP, you may be able to quest peacefully.  Or, not.  That uncertainty is exciting.  What if you could control, as much as possible, the fairness of the fight?

So when I decided I really wanted to make a world PvP character, I made myself a pledge that I will not pick on the lowbies.  I will look for the difficult fights, but in zones where alliance roughly my level is questing.  Hell, as early as level 10 with Paco, my Orc Hunter, I will go to Teldrassil . . . or better, there&#039;s a wolf I could train in Dun Morogh with a skin Horde can&#039;t get in their lands.  I want that.  That would be cool.  I mean, a pet wolf is cool enough.  Taking Timber makes a statement.  I&#039;m in ur zone, taming ur pets. lol.

So I did.  PvP in Dwarfland didn&#039;t go so well.  Turns out that letting a warrior hit first when they can charge and you&#039;ve only got 200 health is a bad idea. lol.  But as soon as I was level 17 I hit Redridge Mountains.  Found a neat little ambush spot around Alther&#039;s Mill.  I could send Timber out to attack, while I snuck around behind our target and caught him unawares.  It was fun.  Even when I got feared into the pack of spiders and vultures.  Or otherwise beat.

I&#039;ve nearly got all the gear I need from the level 19 bracket WSG.  Now if only I can find the recipe for Lean Wolf Steak at the Auction Hall before I set out for Duskwood I&#039;ll be set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming around to PvP was an effort for me because my first exposure was exactly what you described . . . the hunter who takes the time to dismount from his epic mount so he can one shot the level 25 druid.  Kind of an annoyance when all I want to do is finish my questing, right?</p>
<p>But eventually there was this time a random hunter I found wandering around Ashenvale and myself in our late 20s level range came across a mid 30s orc.  We stopped.  I asked my new friend, &#8220;You want to jump him?&#8221; and he said, &#8220;I dunno&#8217;, do you?&#8221;  and before I could type, &#8220;not really&#8221; he&#8217;d typed, &#8220;ok then,&#8221; marked the orc and taken a shot. Nothin&#8217; to do but join in at that point.  And we beat him.  First blood.  Tasted good.  </p>
<p>A couple more good fights like that and I decided that win or lose, as long as the fight was relatively fair, world PvP is a good thing.  And by fair I mean the characters are roughly the same level.  There&#8217;s a chance that you could either win the fight or at least, maybe, get away if you didn&#8217;t want the fight.  All in all, knowing that contested areas were dangerous, that I have to watch over my shoulder for enemy players is exciting.  It adds an edge to the game that I never saw playing in the safe controlled zones or playing with my brother on his PvE server.</p>
<p>Then I hit level 39 and while I waited a couple weeks for guildies to return from vacation before we finished off Scarlet Monestary I figured, &#8220;hey, maybe I&#8217;ll try out these battlegrounds my kids tell me are so much fun.&#8221;  And oh, man, are they ever.  It&#8217;s like a video game with really, really good AI. LOL.</p>
<p>Then I started thinking, you know, the problem with world PvP is getting outclassed by level ?? characters, right?  Battlegrounds kind of fix that, but lack the edge that comes along with uncertainty.  I mean, you know you&#8217;re going to be attacked on the BG, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s there for.  In world PvP, you may be able to quest peacefully.  Or, not.  That uncertainty is exciting.  What if you could control, as much as possible, the fairness of the fight?</p>
<p>So when I decided I really wanted to make a world PvP character, I made myself a pledge that I will not pick on the lowbies.  I will look for the difficult fights, but in zones where alliance roughly my level is questing.  Hell, as early as level 10 with Paco, my Orc Hunter, I will go to Teldrassil . . . or better, there&#8217;s a wolf I could train in Dun Morogh with a skin Horde can&#8217;t get in their lands.  I want that.  That would be cool.  I mean, a pet wolf is cool enough.  Taking Timber makes a statement.  I&#8217;m in ur zone, taming ur pets. lol.</p>
<p>So I did.  PvP in Dwarfland didn&#8217;t go so well.  Turns out that letting a warrior hit first when they can charge and you&#8217;ve only got 200 health is a bad idea. lol.  But as soon as I was level 17 I hit Redridge Mountains.  Found a neat little ambush spot around Alther&#8217;s Mill.  I could send Timber out to attack, while I snuck around behind our target and caught him unawares.  It was fun.  Even when I got feared into the pack of spiders and vultures.  Or otherwise beat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve nearly got all the gear I need from the level 19 bracket WSG.  Now if only I can find the recipe for Lean Wolf Steak at the Auction Hall before I set out for Duskwood I&#8217;ll be set.</p>
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		<title>By: DruidGnome</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9592</link>
		<dc:creator>DruidGnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For people who are on PvP servers, who know that it’s only the people on YOUR faction who are cool, it’s gotta be totally different.&quot;

I play predominantly on a PVP server and while there are certainly a lot of infants who think that you have to gank the other side, there are also those moments where someone helps the opposing faction with an escort quest, or kills the mob that had them at 5% without then ganking.  Those people make playing on a PVP server cool, because they had a choice and they chose to do better.  Heck they even sometimes emote to see if you want to fight and then kill you, but at least they did it honorably and gave you the choice, without it being enforced from on high.

The vocal minority are always a problem, I wish I knew a better solution, and neither faction has a monopoly on immaturity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For people who are on PvP servers, who know that it’s only the people on YOUR faction who are cool, it’s gotta be totally different.&#8221;</p>
<p>I play predominantly on a PVP server and while there are certainly a lot of infants who think that you have to gank the other side, there are also those moments where someone helps the opposing faction with an escort quest, or kills the mob that had them at 5% without then ganking.  Those people make playing on a PVP server cool, because they had a choice and they chose to do better.  Heck they even sometimes emote to see if you want to fight and then kill you, but at least they did it honorably and gave you the choice, without it being enforced from on high.</p>
<p>The vocal minority are always a problem, I wish I knew a better solution, and neither faction has a monopoly on immaturity.</p>
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		<title>By: ARA</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9591</link>
		<dc:creator>ARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pallies gloating on a druid post reminds me a little of hunters/warlocks asking for a raid spot in LFG after you just typed &quot;LF healer then g2g&quot;. Just ignore them. Of course, so many people use WoW as a way to boost their personal sense of self worth, whether it be the loot that droped, their stats, how OP their class will be in Wrath etc. Its ridiculous... and their comments are often false anyway because their motive is so whacked. 

Also, I couldnt agree more about the idiots in chat. The one thing someone like that really hates is to be ignored. We have a really abusive individual in our trade channel all the time, and I know he only does it so he can get attention. It just fuels his ego to tell him he&#039;s an idiot too. I think we would all welcome an infinite ignore list. 

I love just herbing and chatting in vent with good people - I do it all the time nowadays!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pallies gloating on a druid post reminds me a little of hunters/warlocks asking for a raid spot in LFG after you just typed &#8220;LF healer then g2g&#8221;. Just ignore them. Of course, so many people use WoW as a way to boost their personal sense of self worth, whether it be the loot that droped, their stats, how OP their class will be in Wrath etc. Its ridiculous&#8230; and their comments are often false anyway because their motive is so whacked. </p>
<p>Also, I couldnt agree more about the idiots in chat. The one thing someone like that really hates is to be ignored. We have a really abusive individual in our trade channel all the time, and I know he only does it so he can get attention. It just fuels his ego to tell him he&#8217;s an idiot too. I think we would all welcome an infinite ignore list. </p>
<p>I love just herbing and chatting in vent with good people &#8211; I do it all the time nowadays!</p>
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		<title>By: Ratshag</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9589</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratshag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Junkyard Wars! Woot!

Lucks to Cassie and her googgles. Just crafted the Furious Gizmatics meself - need to get the meta gem, then I&#039;s good to go.

And yeah. Just keep swimming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junkyard Wars! Woot!</p>
<p>Lucks to Cassie and her googgles. Just crafted the Furious Gizmatics meself &#8211; need to get the meta gem, then I&#8217;s good to go.</p>
<p>And yeah. Just keep swimming.</p>
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		<title>By: Pidge</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9588</link>
		<dc:creator>Pidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goes without saying: Druids are great. Paladins are great.  People should stop posting stupid stuff in blogs, on the official forums and in the Trade channel.  If you ignore the jerks, you&#039;ll find there are a lot of cool people playing the game.

Now the IMPORTANT stuff:  Hope Alex has a great first day at Kindergarten!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goes without saying: Druids are great. Paladins are great.  People should stop posting stupid stuff in blogs, on the official forums and in the Trade channel.  If you ignore the jerks, you&#8217;ll find there are a lot of cool people playing the game.</p>
<p>Now the IMPORTANT stuff:  Hope Alex has a great first day at Kindergarten!</p>
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		<title>By: Awlbiste</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/03/innervation-chat-style/comment-page-1/#comment-9587</link>
		<dc:creator>Awlbiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never underestimate the power of the &quot;report for spam&quot; option! But I love trolling my original realm forum, everyone participates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never underestimate the power of the &#8220;report for spam&#8221; option! But I love trolling my original realm forum, everyone participates.</p>
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