Comments on: It’s the end of the world as we know it…

By: bollocks

bollocks — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:41:24 +0000

Amen again to Tatko, and that’s exactly what I think about it. I think it was a great idea to not allow PVE toons to transfer to PVP servers. The best thing about it is, all the preteen gankers on PVP servers who had already spent the time and effort to level up on PVP, would be discouraged from transferring to a PVE server, where people actually try to enjoy the game, out of fear they wouldn’t be able to transfer back. This is good for the game, and shouldn’t be changed. If all you want to do is run around ganking people who are lower level, have less gear, or less friends than you, stay on the PVP servers where you belong, and let those of us who want to enjoy the content, enjoy the content. PVP is for preteen pricks, let them stay in their asshat land and be happy there.

To take it one step further, I think they should delete BG’s and arena on PVE servers. Or make “Full PVE” servers where there is no PVP whatsoever. The fact that asshats who level up on a PVE server and can go into raids in welfare epics without the slightest concept of how to actually run a 5-man disgusts me. And there are more of them every day… probably because they no longer fear not being able to transfer back to their asshat PVP server, so they’re showing up in PVP gear (as good or better than t4 which can take months to acquire), and raiding (or attempting to) with those of us who actually enjoy the “content” of the game – that is, the PVE aspect.

By: Knologybill

Knologybill — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:31:55 +0000

Ganking’s ok, camping is ghey.

By: Lennie

Lennie — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:15:15 +0000

“Amen” Tatko.

By: Tatko

Tatko — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:09:50 +0000

Please don’t call ganking “PvP”. Would you call a level 70 killing level 5 boars in front of Orgrimmar “PvE”?

Yes, technically it’s person versus person, but true PvP means struggle, learning, and real achievements. It requires you to learn how to play your class, how to use other classes’ weaknesses, work as a team etc..

Ganking, on the other hand, is what boys with little tiny dicks do to feel better about themselves.

By: sid67

sid67 — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:04:32 +0000

The only issue as I see it is that they changed the rules. People made decisions based on those rules, then Blizzard changed them. What am I talking about?

I’m talking about anyone who ever leveled up a character to 70 on a PvE server only to end up leveling the SAME CLASS on a PvP server because they wanted to play with friends. It’s incredibly unfair to everyone who basically leveled up TWO characters because of a silly rule.

Is it a bad rule? Sure. It sucked ass to have to level up another character to 70. But that’s my point – it’s like Blizzard is spitting in the face of everyone that made such a switch the “hard” way.

I would argue that the rule shouldn’t have existed in the first place. However, because it DID exist, it’s unfair to anyone who made decisions BASED on that rule.

By: thrillah, protectorate (kil'jaeden)

thrillah, protectorate (kil'jaeden) — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:56:06 +0000

I am a huge fan of this. I levelled originally on a pve server because that’s where real life friends were. Now, all but one of them quit playing. That friend and I rerolled horde on a pvp server with RAF. We’ve had no gold and it’s been pretty tough even though I had 15k gold on my other server where I have 3 70s. Finally, last night, one of those 70s brought over a ton of mats and 10k gold. On top of that, we do the dailies every day on his 70 that’s there already. It’s not too bad on a pvp server and it allows a player to use the full range of his/her abilities and to be a more “aware” player. I now have two characters in the 60s that I started on KJ, and I love it. I most likely won’t go back to pve.

BBB – I’m putting this comment here even though it goes on your previous post… Don’t forget that when soloing in the world, you don’t actually need the hit cap you listed in your last post. That’s the hit cap for lvl 73 bosses, not lvl 68-71 mobs. So, you can even afford to lose a little more hit for just your farming gear :).

By: Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:57:18 +0000

Eh, I personally don’t care. I’ve never done much PvP (I suck at it). I’m hoping that the wanna-be tough guys on my server will move along (they all seem to proclaim themselves gods at PvP). Not that they cause me much trouble directly, but they’re turds socially. Either way, I am 100% certain VG is right, “PvP kids” will be coming out of the woodwork for a great deal of time. I doubt high end raiding guilds will lose too many players. Most of the people taking advantage of this will be the server turds, going somewhere they think their attitude will be more socially acceptable, I suspect.

By: Arnath

Arnath — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:53:36 +0000

I just wanted to add my though on this one because I know what it means to lvl in pve and pvp. I lvled a lock to 70 on a PVE server almost 2 years ago. I stopped playing for a while and then I lvled a druid (go druid!!! ) on a PVP server. I didnt see big difference between the 2. You just have to be a little bit more carefull that it. I don’t know why the people on PVP think they are so much better. Sorry nothing against you guys, I am a PVP guy too now. Anyway just to say that I agree with blizzard on this one and I might even bring my lock with my druid :)

By: Felkan

Felkan — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:33:39 +0000

None of this would matter if Blizzard had a chicken system in the game, in which a player X levels above you couldn’t attack you on a PvP server. While leveling on a PvP server I only had real problems with the ?? players attacking me. Not the rare guy that was within 2-3 levels of me. He’d attack once and leave. It was the level ?? dudes that would camp you all night.

By: Gwaendar

Gwaendar — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:39:38 +0000

I see the practical side of this. I’m currently playing with some friends on a PvP server, have leveled my mage to 60 there, but my level 70 pallie is on a PvE realm.
After 4 levels of autoattacking and hoping stuff dies before I die of old age, I realized that I didn’t have the heart to level another pallie no matter how much I love the class at cap.
This gives me an opportunity to bring a toon I’m still quite fond of to the realm where my friends are playing. That’s pretty nice in my book.