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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: bbr</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10204</link>
		<dc:creator>bbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The epic staff has a lot less armor than the blue staff though. 462 armor *360%
I&#039;d think they are quite competitive to each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The epic staff has a lot less armor than the blue staff though. 462 armor *360%<br />
I&#8217;d think they are quite competitive to each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeursey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeursey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whoa, indeed... well, I GUESS I&#039;ll keep grinding towards my Earthwarden... for now... I guess... or maybe I should just go and play Warhammer for two months, given that I probably won&#039;t even tank my first heroic before the expansion? Tough call...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa, indeed&#8230; well, I GUESS I&#8217;ll keep grinding towards my Earthwarden&#8230; for now&#8230; I guess&#8230; or maybe I should just go and play Warhammer for two months, given that I probably won&#8217;t even tank my first heroic before the expansion? Tough call&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zeplar</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeplar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, I was lazy.... I healed t5 until I got my Wildfury Greatstaff, totally skipping all CE rep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I was lazy&#8230;. I healed t5 until I got my Wildfury Greatstaff, totally skipping all CE rep.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashj</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi BBB, greetings from sunny Scotland!

Really enjoy the blog and I tend to find I like your train of thought. I was wondering, at the risk of asking you or others to repeat themselves, why you seem happy enough with how our BB butts will tank in LK? I&#039;ve read countless threads over the last few weeks on what is nerfed/buffed from day to day and I admit I am still a little confused.

If I am gathering things correctly, our trademark whack of armour and health are being removed and we are getting... what exactly? I can&#039;t seem to see how we make up for the loss. Is our dodge massive? Is there unseen mitigation I&#039;m missing? I know you voiced concerns like the rest of the community about our viability - oh how I&#039;m learning to loathe that word. So I guess what I&#039;m asking is that, as a source I trust, if you are feeling optimistic can you run me through why I should too?

Keep up the awesome work here and at WWI!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BBB, greetings from sunny Scotland!</p>
<p>Really enjoy the blog and I tend to find I like your train of thought. I was wondering, at the risk of asking you or others to repeat themselves, why you seem happy enough with how our BB butts will tank in LK? I&#8217;ve read countless threads over the last few weeks on what is nerfed/buffed from day to day and I admit I am still a little confused.</p>
<p>If I am gathering things correctly, our trademark whack of armour and health are being removed and we are getting&#8230; what exactly? I can&#8217;t seem to see how we make up for the loss. Is our dodge massive? Is there unseen mitigation I&#8217;m missing? I know you voiced concerns like the rest of the community about our viability &#8211; oh how I&#8217;m learning to loathe that word. So I guess what I&#8217;m asking is that, as a source I trust, if you are feeling optimistic can you run me through why I should too?</p>
<p>Keep up the awesome work here and at WWI!</p>
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		<title>By: ARA</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10143</link>
		<dc:creator>ARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it would be nice if Blizz include a tooltip to say what these values actually mean. I guess we&#039;ll all have to go back to number crunching to work it out... or if we&#039;re more casual, then I dont suppose it matters. Just use the gear you like the look of. 

I dont get too excited by big numbers; I&#039;ve long since understood that the game is entirely the same at every level: bigger stats for you, and bigger stats on the monsters. Whats the difference? Greater stats when you level; diminishing returns when you level. It gives you the illusion you&#039;re progressing in abilities - which you are - but its still the same game with 2x, 3x, 4x the numbers on both sides of the fight. 

Its also fun when you look back to pre-BC - all the epic gear with &quot;tiny&quot; amounts of stats we take for granted today, and see how desperately people wanted to get that gear. Again, same game then as it is now, just smaller stats on both sides. 

I&#039;m also looking forward to ditching all my epics and starting again. I dont feel proud of them anymore; I&#039;ve played a ton on the druid, so its no wonder I have great gear. It dont mean too much else...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it would be nice if Blizz include a tooltip to say what these values actually mean. I guess we&#8217;ll all have to go back to number crunching to work it out&#8230; or if we&#8217;re more casual, then I dont suppose it matters. Just use the gear you like the look of. </p>
<p>I dont get too excited by big numbers; I&#8217;ve long since understood that the game is entirely the same at every level: bigger stats for you, and bigger stats on the monsters. Whats the difference? Greater stats when you level; diminishing returns when you level. It gives you the illusion you&#8217;re progressing in abilities &#8211; which you are &#8211; but its still the same game with 2x, 3x, 4x the numbers on both sides of the fight. </p>
<p>Its also fun when you look back to pre-BC &#8211; all the epic gear with &#8220;tiny&#8221; amounts of stats we take for granted today, and see how desperately people wanted to get that gear. Again, same game then as it is now, just smaller stats on both sides. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also looking forward to ditching all my epics and starting again. I dont feel proud of them anymore; I&#8217;ve played a ton on the druid, so its no wonder I have great gear. It dont mean too much else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Natty</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>Natty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wheeeeel, ok so, if one was raiding, the Earthwarden mace was uber until you got into SSC or ZA. 

Last time I had one t2 item and a few t1/dungeon set items that I replaced around lvl 63-65. This time though, I won&#039;t be replacing my t6 items until level 80. It&#039;s not AS much of a gear wipe as last time. 

Plus, I like the look of Wrath items much better than the Space clown look of TBC gear. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheeeeel, ok so, if one was raiding, the Earthwarden mace was uber until you got into SSC or ZA. </p>
<p>Last time I had one t2 item and a few t1/dungeon set items that I replaced around lvl 63-65. This time though, I won&#8217;t be replacing my t6 items until level 80. It&#8217;s not AS much of a gear wipe as last time. </p>
<p>Plus, I like the look of Wrath items much better than the Space clown look of TBC gear. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10139</link>
		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even worse than whiteshadow&#039;s numbers show, it turms out that there are actual diminishing returns on the agility-&gt;dodge (or anything-&gt;dodge) similar to armor. So the absolute best case is that the staff of the plague beast gives is 2.1% dodge. If you have high amounts of agility or dodge rating or defense rating, it&#039;ll be close to 1.5%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even worse than whiteshadow&#8217;s numbers show, it turms out that there are actual diminishing returns on the agility-&gt;dodge (or anything-&gt;dodge) similar to armor. So the absolute best case is that the staff of the plague beast gives is 2.1% dodge. If you have high amounts of agility or dodge rating or defense rating, it&#8217;ll be close to 1.5%.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahl</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/09/29/big-numbers-little-enthusiasm/comment-page-1/#comment-10137</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey BBB!

I would love, just LOVE to have an Earthwarden myself.
Unfortunately im not gonna have the time to grind the CE rep to get it after only just dinging revered with them.

I have the last quest in the Aldor rep chain to get me the next best thing which will just have to tide me over till i hit 74.

So to me its good to see that there&#039;s an available upgrade which isnt too hard to get rather than hoping for a random world drop / hrs of PvP/ or an Exulted Rep grind . Druid weapon itemization is always sparse because nobody else can use &quot;Increases AP by xxx in cat/bear/Mkin form&quot;. This makes weapon upgrades few and far between, esp for the casual player that i unfortunately am.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BBB!</p>
<p>I would love, just LOVE to have an Earthwarden myself.<br />
Unfortunately im not gonna have the time to grind the CE rep to get it after only just dinging revered with them.</p>
<p>I have the last quest in the Aldor rep chain to get me the next best thing which will just have to tide me over till i hit 74.</p>
<p>So to me its good to see that there&#8217;s an available upgrade which isnt too hard to get rather than hoping for a random world drop / hrs of PvP/ or an Exulted Rep grind . Druid weapon itemization is always sparse because nobody else can use &#8220;Increases AP by xxx in cat/bear/Mkin form&#8221;. This makes weapon upgrades few and far between, esp for the casual player that i unfortunately am.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldengreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldengreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay!</p>
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