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	<title>Comments on: Undecided about Professions?</title>
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		<title>By: werecow</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-23306</link>
		<dc:creator>werecow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real answer is leveling enough toons to cover all profession activities.  I realize that this sounds like overkill for some, but trust me it is fantastic to get the synergy between professions, and it&#039;s no where near as complicated as some might think.

- My Druid is a Tauren Herbalist/Miner with Swiftflight form...  I have a mouse button macros for switching between the two while flying around.
- My Mage is a Bloodelf Enchanter/Inscriptionist...  The focus here is not on glyphs, but on creating those awesome cards for decks - and they SELL!
- My DK is an Orc Blacksmith/Jewelcrafter...  Being able to make every piece of jewelry for every toon and great weapons really rocks.
- My Priest is an Undead Tailor/Alchemist...  Xmute spec and being able to make all my own pots is irreplaceable.
- My Rogue is a Troll Skinner/Leatherworker...  I just use him to grind beasts and skin &#039;em good - and make leg armors for sale

I have a warlock I am leveling with mining/engineering, but engineering really isn&#039;t useful from the standpoint of &#039;supporting the team&#039; when it comes to my cast of characters.  With the rest, I pretty much have all of my bases covered and can gather, make, sell anything I need to to make money.  If there is something I can&#039;t make because I don&#039;t have the recipe, I can still farm all of my own mats and just have someone do the combine for me.  It&#039;s quite nice...  Of course, the cost is the time taken to level up a total of 5 characters from 1 to 80 (and to 85 after Cataclysm comes out) in order to support this model.  Is it worth it?  Probably not, but it makes gear acquisition a hell of a lot easier  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real answer is leveling enough toons to cover all profession activities.  I realize that this sounds like overkill for some, but trust me it is fantastic to get the synergy between professions, and it&#8217;s no where near as complicated as some might think.</p>
<p>- My Druid is a Tauren Herbalist/Miner with Swiftflight form&#8230;  I have a mouse button macros for switching between the two while flying around.<br />
- My Mage is a Bloodelf Enchanter/Inscriptionist&#8230;  The focus here is not on glyphs, but on creating those awesome cards for decks &#8211; and they SELL!<br />
- My DK is an Orc Blacksmith/Jewelcrafter&#8230;  Being able to make every piece of jewelry for every toon and great weapons really rocks.<br />
- My Priest is an Undead Tailor/Alchemist&#8230;  Xmute spec and being able to make all my own pots is irreplaceable.<br />
- My Rogue is a Troll Skinner/Leatherworker&#8230;  I just use him to grind beasts and skin &#8216;em good &#8211; and make leg armors for sale</p>
<p>I have a warlock I am leveling with mining/engineering, but engineering really isn&#8217;t useful from the standpoint of &#8217;supporting the team&#8217; when it comes to my cast of characters.  With the rest, I pretty much have all of my bases covered and can gather, make, sell anything I need to to make money.  If there is something I can&#8217;t make because I don&#8217;t have the recipe, I can still farm all of my own mats and just have someone do the combine for me.  It&#8217;s quite nice&#8230;  Of course, the cost is the time taken to level up a total of 5 characters from 1 to 80 (and to 85 after Cataclysm comes out) in order to support this model.  Is it worth it?  Probably not, but it makes gear acquisition a hell of a lot easier  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Argon</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11830</link>
		<dc:creator>Argon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacksmithing actually does have one set of mid-70&#039;s ish PVP armor where the recipes drop from certain mobs.  But yeah, going by wowhead, every other recipe, including all of the high end stuff, can simply be bought from the blacksmithing trainer!  I&#039;m not complaining though, as I&#039;m making a good chunk of cash churning out plate armor for people.

Another interesting change is that mail armor seems to be craftable exclusively by leatherworkers now.  Maybe Blizzard decided that with DKs around using plate they could move one class from Bsmiths to LWs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacksmithing actually does have one set of mid-70&#8217;s ish PVP armor where the recipes drop from certain mobs.  But yeah, going by wowhead, every other recipe, including all of the high end stuff, can simply be bought from the blacksmithing trainer!  I&#8217;m not complaining though, as I&#8217;m making a good chunk of cash churning out plate armor for people.</p>
<p>Another interesting change is that mail armor seems to be craftable exclusively by leatherworkers now.  Maybe Blizzard decided that with DKs around using plate they could move one class from Bsmiths to LWs.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11760</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m debating this too.  Right now I&#039;m herb/alch.  I want to keep herb on the druid because epic flight form is just pure win with it.

I&#039;m really thinking of dropping my alchemy.  Originally I was thinking about dropping alch for inscription but I ended up doing that on an alt.  I do love being able to take pots in forms now that does help, but the one per batte deal kind of sucks.  Also the once a week discovery while better than the random discoveries of TBC still isn&#039;t that great imo.  It takes a lot of herbs, has a chance to fail and you might not even get something useful to you either.  Why couldn&#039;t we get some cool daily quests and the ability to purchase what we want/need like jewelcrafting, enchanting, etc?  I&#039;ve started leveling alch on a lvl 61 shammy I have been leveling to be resto.  He probably would get better use out of the flask bonus than I would.

I&#039;m thinking of going JC.  My wife&#039;s warrior is a miner and her other prof is enchanting so I could finally use all that ore she&#039;s mined thats been sitting in the bank.  Plus the daily quests and ability to use the bop gems which I think I will get more use out of than crazy alchemy pots and bonuses to flasks (which I hardly use to begin with).  Another thing is to me it seems like JC is something you really need on a main because of the rep requirements for a lot of recipes and now I&#039;m seeing bop stuff you can only get by doing wintergrasp.  The only alch rep stuff I ever saw were the stones and maybe something from sproregar if my memory serves me right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m debating this too.  Right now I&#8217;m herb/alch.  I want to keep herb on the druid because epic flight form is just pure win with it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really thinking of dropping my alchemy.  Originally I was thinking about dropping alch for inscription but I ended up doing that on an alt.  I do love being able to take pots in forms now that does help, but the one per batte deal kind of sucks.  Also the once a week discovery while better than the random discoveries of TBC still isn&#8217;t that great imo.  It takes a lot of herbs, has a chance to fail and you might not even get something useful to you either.  Why couldn&#8217;t we get some cool daily quests and the ability to purchase what we want/need like jewelcrafting, enchanting, etc?  I&#8217;ve started leveling alch on a lvl 61 shammy I have been leveling to be resto.  He probably would get better use out of the flask bonus than I would.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of going JC.  My wife&#8217;s warrior is a miner and her other prof is enchanting so I could finally use all that ore she&#8217;s mined thats been sitting in the bank.  Plus the daily quests and ability to use the bop gems which I think I will get more use out of than crazy alchemy pots and bonuses to flasks (which I hardly use to begin with).  Another thing is to me it seems like JC is something you really need on a main because of the rep requirements for a lot of recipes and now I&#8217;m seeing bop stuff you can only get by doing wintergrasp.  The only alch rep stuff I ever saw were the stones and maybe something from sproregar if my memory serves me right.</p>
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		<title>By: Elfkilla</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11684</link>
		<dc:creator>Elfkilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just read the comments and people seems to don&#039;t know the epic leather armor kits yet.

They are the same thing as the reinforcements, the difference is that LW&#039;s can do it to they&#039;re own gear a LOT cheaper. But everybody can use the new armor kits. For that &quot;enchant and mail&quot; issue there is this new text in every armor kit- &quot;Can only attach to your own armor, and attaching causes the item to become soulbound.&quot;

Rare dps: Nerubian Leg Armor
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38372

Rare tank: Jormungar Leg Armor
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38371

Epic dps: Icescale Leg Armor
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38374

Epic tank: Frosthide Leg Armor
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38373

–
Elfkilla Gorefiend-US</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read the comments and people seems to don&#8217;t know the epic leather armor kits yet.</p>
<p>They are the same thing as the reinforcements, the difference is that LW&#8217;s can do it to they&#8217;re own gear a LOT cheaper. But everybody can use the new armor kits. For that &#8220;enchant and mail&#8221; issue there is this new text in every armor kit- &#8220;Can only attach to your own armor, and attaching causes the item to become soulbound.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rare dps: Nerubian Leg Armor<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38372" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38372</a></p>
<p>Rare tank: Jormungar Leg Armor<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38371" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38371</a></p>
<p>Epic dps: Icescale Leg Armor<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38374" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38374</a></p>
<p>Epic tank: Frosthide Leg Armor<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38373" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38373</a></p>
<p>–<br />
Elfkilla Gorefiend-US</p>
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		<title>By: Elfkilla</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11683</link>
		<dc:creator>Elfkilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leatherworkers (LW) can enchant bracers and legs (a very cheap version of epic one) with this recipies -

Fur Linin on bracers: +60 any resistance or +114 AP or +90 sta or +67 spell power
http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=fur

Reinforcements on legs:
http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=reinforcements

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Elfkilla Gorefiend-US</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leatherworkers (LW) can enchant bracers and legs (a very cheap version of epic one) with this recipies -</p>
<p>Fur Linin on bracers: +60 any resistance or +114 AP or +90 sta or +67 spell power<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=fur" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=fur</a></p>
<p>Reinforcements on legs:<br />
<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=reinforcements" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165&amp;filter=na=reinforcements</a></p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Elfkilla Gorefiend-US</p>
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		<title>By: Mooriah</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11667</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that my engineering has become invaluable to me as a tank. I made 2 goblin rocket launchers for that massive stam buff and well my goggles are great. I crafted two deathblows and gemmed them differently. One is for my kitty and the other for my tanking gear. Plus, I make great money with the extractor. I am eagerly awaiting the rocket launcher alternative in WOTLK. As soon as I hit the level to make it, I am making two. Give me a prayer of fortitude and I am good to go for anything :-)  Thank tank I normally run Utgarde with has given over the reigns to me for the first and last boss because he doesn&#039;t have enough armor or heath points! 

I am personally thrilled that I don&#039;t have to wait for near impossible drops to get engie schematics or enchants on my alt. I really like what they did for enchanting and esp engineering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that my engineering has become invaluable to me as a tank. I made 2 goblin rocket launchers for that massive stam buff and well my goggles are great. I crafted two deathblows and gemmed them differently. One is for my kitty and the other for my tanking gear. Plus, I make great money with the extractor. I am eagerly awaiting the rocket launcher alternative in WOTLK. As soon as I hit the level to make it, I am making two. Give me a prayer of fortitude and I am good to go for anything :-)  Thank tank I normally run Utgarde with has given over the reigns to me for the first and last boss because he doesn&#8217;t have enough armor or heath points! </p>
<p>I am personally thrilled that I don&#8217;t have to wait for near impossible drops to get engie schematics or enchants on my alt. I really like what they did for enchanting and esp engineering!</p>
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		<title>By: Xathras</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11666</link>
		<dc:creator>Xathras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m somewhat conflicted as to whether to keep my current professions or pick up new ones.

My hunter main is Herb/Alch (Transmute Master) and my shaman is mining/eng.  I don&#039;t plan to change my shaman simply because farming gas clouds is such a great thing to have.  I am quite tempted to switch my hunter to skin/leather simply because it makes getting gear easier.

However, since the Swiftarrow set is both BoE and PvP gear I don&#039;t know that it&#039;s really worth switching.  Once I make my DK he&#039;s going to be inscription/blacksmithing so I need to keep my herbalism and mining to provide him with mats.  All told I&#039;ll probably just keep my professions the way they are now.

On a side note, I&#039;m a little disappointed that SwiftArrow is primarily PvP gear.  It&#039;s nice since I won&#039;t have to farm honor to get some decent PvP gear but it&#039;d be nice to get some PvE gear since that&#039;s my primary interest.  I guess I&#039;ll just have to run dungeons for gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I&#8217;m somewhat conflicted as to whether to keep my current professions or pick up new ones.</p>
<p>My hunter main is Herb/Alch (Transmute Master) and my shaman is mining/eng.  I don&#8217;t plan to change my shaman simply because farming gas clouds is such a great thing to have.  I am quite tempted to switch my hunter to skin/leather simply because it makes getting gear easier.</p>
<p>However, since the Swiftarrow set is both BoE and PvP gear I don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s really worth switching.  Once I make my DK he&#8217;s going to be inscription/blacksmithing so I need to keep my herbalism and mining to provide him with mats.  All told I&#8217;ll probably just keep my professions the way they are now.</p>
<p>On a side note, I&#8217;m a little disappointed that SwiftArrow is primarily PvP gear.  It&#8217;s nice since I won&#8217;t have to farm honor to get some decent PvP gear but it&#8217;d be nice to get some PvE gear since that&#8217;s my primary interest.  I guess I&#8217;ll just have to run dungeons for gear.</p>
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		<title>By: Melpo</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11664</link>
		<dc:creator>Melpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that I&#039;m debating professions as well.  I only have one 70+ character (though two are nearing 60, they will sit till my main is at 80).  Currently my rogue main has mining and engineering.  I keep thinking about dropping engineering for something else, maybe JC.  But then, I realize that I like the goggles, mote extractors, repair bots, and cables too much to get rid of it.  I&#039;d love to take another crafting profession, but I don&#039;t have a high enough level character to act as a gatherer for it.

This is giving me a headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that I&#8217;m debating professions as well.  I only have one 70+ character (though two are nearing 60, they will sit till my main is at 80).  Currently my rogue main has mining and engineering.  I keep thinking about dropping engineering for something else, maybe JC.  But then, I realize that I like the goggles, mote extractors, repair bots, and cables too much to get rid of it.  I&#8217;d love to take another crafting profession, but I don&#8217;t have a high enough level character to act as a gatherer for it.</p>
<p>This is giving me a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Averna</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11661</link>
		<dc:creator>Averna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *totally* hear ya. Right now my resto (well, now she&#039;s balance/resto hybrid for easier leveling) druid has herbalism and alchemy. I&#039;m quite confused (as you are) about what would be best for me. The +crit from skinning is nice, because +crit now applies to spell crit (nice for heals) as well as physical damage (just like haste now applies to cast times as well... =D). I already have a ton of resto skillz, so the heal from Lifeblood really isn&#039;t that significant. On the other hand, farming herbs = good money, simply because people will be eating them up on the AH for both alchemy AND inscription. 

I like my alchemy... I&#039;m a potions master and can make a lot of potions (woot procs) for my guildies. 

But I think that it&#039;s mainly my indecision that&#039;s affecting me. I&#039;m not sure what to do, so I just sit here, not changing my professions, because it&#039;s the easiest thing to do atm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *totally* hear ya. Right now my resto (well, now she&#8217;s balance/resto hybrid for easier leveling) druid has herbalism and alchemy. I&#8217;m quite confused (as you are) about what would be best for me. The +crit from skinning is nice, because +crit now applies to spell crit (nice for heals) as well as physical damage (just like haste now applies to cast times as well&#8230; =D). I already have a ton of resto skillz, so the heal from Lifeblood really isn&#8217;t that significant. On the other hand, farming herbs = good money, simply because people will be eating them up on the AH for both alchemy AND inscription. </p>
<p>I like my alchemy&#8230; I&#8217;m a potions master and can make a lot of potions (woot procs) for my guildies. </p>
<p>But I think that it&#8217;s mainly my indecision that&#8217;s affecting me. I&#8217;m not sure what to do, so I just sit here, not changing my professions, because it&#8217;s the easiest thing to do atm.</p>
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		<title>By: Wintermane</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/18/undecided-about-professions/comment-page-1/#comment-11660</link>
		<dc:creator>Wintermane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a feral myself, I have also found Lifeblood to be simply amazing. I&#039;m also inscription which is really fun, should be passable from a min/max perspective, and has the added bonus of letting you hearth 5/times per hour. HOWEVER: I really wish I&#039;d leveled mining. I may go back and do so after all the post-80 wildness when I start to get bored again, but having dual-gathering with epic flight form is unreal. Just make a macro to switch between node/herb tracking and fly around gathering in form. I think the pure ease of making money this this easily outweighs the min/maxing bonus of BoP stuffs from other professions (but I&#039;m also not a hardcore raider so...).

Either way, enjoy! I&#039;m so pleased that professions got the good lovin&#039; this x-pac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a feral myself, I have also found Lifeblood to be simply amazing. I&#8217;m also inscription which is really fun, should be passable from a min/max perspective, and has the added bonus of letting you hearth 5/times per hour. HOWEVER: I really wish I&#8217;d leveled mining. I may go back and do so after all the post-80 wildness when I start to get bored again, but having dual-gathering with epic flight form is unreal. Just make a macro to switch between node/herb tracking and fly around gathering in form. I think the pure ease of making money this this easily outweighs the min/maxing bonus of BoP stuffs from other professions (but I&#8217;m also not a hardcore raider so&#8230;).</p>
<p>Either way, enjoy! I&#8217;m so pleased that professions got the good lovin&#8217; this x-pac.</p>
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