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	<title>Comments on: Feral Druid level 80 Hit, Expertise and Dodge</title>
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		<title>By: Tango</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/19/feral-druid-level-80-hit-expertise-and-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-36249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With my old naxx 10/25 tank gear with a few Ulduar/TOC/5mICC, i reach atm like 4400 gs.
My current stats are (bear unbuffed):

Hit: 274 (i know, but all comes from the gear)
Exp: 206 (including the exp hands enchant)
HP: 34k
Dodge:36% ( T_T)
Armor: 26k

And yesterday i tanked the 3 ICC heroics and TOC w/out any problem, but i know my stats r not good enough for ICC yet.  

What r the min stats for ToC 10/25 or ICC 10?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With my old naxx 10/25 tank gear with a few Ulduar/TOC/5mICC, i reach atm like 4400 gs.<br />
My current stats are (bear unbuffed):</p>
<p>Hit: 274 (i know, but all comes from the gear)<br />
Exp: 206 (including the exp hands enchant)<br />
HP: 34k<br />
Dodge:36% ( T_T)<br />
Armor: 26k</p>
<p>And yesterday i tanked the 3 ICC heroics and TOC w/out any problem, but i know my stats r not good enough for ICC yet.  </p>
<p>What r the min stats for ToC 10/25 or ICC 10?</p>
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		<title>By: Tango</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2008/11/19/feral-druid-level-80-hit-expertise-and-dodge/comment-page-3/#comment-36136</link>
		<dc:creator>Tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Kailthas 

So, pretty much this:
1. swipe + maul macro
2. multi alt-tab
3. mangle/lacerate
4.- Growl as emergency button

Ty!

Sorry for the offtoppic btw.

P.S.  actually, i used to play a hunter, and one of the problems was multishot: 1 crit = 1 mob agroed to me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kailthas </p>
<p>So, pretty much this:<br />
1. swipe + maul macro<br />
2. multi alt-tab<br />
3. mangle/lacerate<br />
4.- Growl as emergency button</p>
<p>Ty!</p>
<p>Sorry for the offtoppic btw.</p>
<p>P.S.  actually, i used to play a hunter, and one of the problems was multishot: 1 crit = 1 mob agroed to me</p>
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		<title>By: Kailthas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kailthas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tango,

Macro Swipe with Maul , and make sure u got glyph of maul , and when tanking a group , spam this macro while keeping on tabbing between targets , plus dont forget Demoralizing Roar , if there was any chance to apply Mangle or Lacerate while tabbing then it will be great :) .. and keep your Growl as an emergency Key , anyways its not always ur fault if u lose some aggro of a mob while AoE tanking... its dpesers problem that they dont have Threat addon , and they dont manage their threat (especially hunters who dont know that they have misdirection) , you know they all just blame healer / tanker xD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tango,</p>
<p>Macro Swipe with Maul , and make sure u got glyph of maul , and when tanking a group , spam this macro while keeping on tabbing between targets , plus dont forget Demoralizing Roar , if there was any chance to apply Mangle or Lacerate while tabbing then it will be great :) .. and keep your Growl as an emergency Key , anyways its not always ur fault if u lose some aggro of a mob while AoE tanking&#8230; its dpesers problem that they dont have Threat addon , and they dont manage their threat (especially hunters who dont know that they have misdirection) , you know they all just blame healer / tanker xD</p>
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		<title>By: Tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@honkers: agro issue indeed!
btw any good rotation to keep agroed a 3 or more grp?, and didnt had a problem with single targets being hit capped (263) and with 216 exp rating, but with a grp..OMG

@lasco (if u still arround or any1 else), r u sure that 214 expertise is enough to tank?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@honkers: agro issue indeed!<br />
btw any good rotation to keep agroed a 3 or more grp?, and didnt had a problem with single targets being hit capped (263) and with 216 exp rating, but with a grp..OMG</p>
<p>@lasco (if u still arround or any1 else), r u sure that 214 expertise is enough to tank?</p>
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		<title>By: honkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>honkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Bear Dru, I recently started tanking with my druid and I went with deft ametrine which is 10 agi 10 haste. Staying alive doesn&#039;t seem to be a problem but keeping threat with all the well geared dps out now is what I find to be the most trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bear Dru, I recently started tanking with my druid and I went with deft ametrine which is 10 agi 10 haste. Staying alive doesn&#8217;t seem to be a problem but keeping threat with all the well geared dps out now is what I find to be the most trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear Dru</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bear Dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 21:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank, one more question.

I have a lot of yellow gem slots on my tank gear and I&#039;m having trouble picking what gems to slot in them. Any suggestions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank, one more question.</p>
<p>I have a lot of yellow gem slots on my tank gear and I&#8217;m having trouble picking what gems to slot in them. Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I really try and stay away from this thread, because there are some great commenters here that do my job for me with brilliant advice and clarifications, but i can&#039;t let that one go by a minute longer.

Bear Dru, as things stand right now in the game, Death Knights, Paladins and Warriors all have to be Defense capped to be able to tank successfully at 80.. and Druids, alone of all tanking classes have a Talent, Survival of the Fittest, that, when fully pointed, makes us effectively Defense capped for the purposes of tankitude.

I say &quot;As things stand right now&quot;, because during the last Blizzcon they announced that in Cataclysm, they were rolling the same system Druids enjoy now out all across the board.

So if you&#039;re a Druid tank, spec fully into Survival of the Fittest and enjoy being on the cutting edge!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I really try and stay away from this thread, because there are some great commenters here that do my job for me with brilliant advice and clarifications, but i can&#8217;t let that one go by a minute longer.</p>
<p>Bear Dru, as things stand right now in the game, Death Knights, Paladins and Warriors all have to be Defense capped to be able to tank successfully at 80.. and Druids, alone of all tanking classes have a Talent, Survival of the Fittest, that, when fully pointed, makes us effectively Defense capped for the purposes of tankitude.</p>
<p>I say &#8220;As things stand right now&#8221;, because during the last Blizzcon they announced that in Cataclysm, they were rolling the same system Druids enjoy now out all across the board.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re a Druid tank, spec fully into Survival of the Fittest and enjoy being on the cutting edge!</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear Dru</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bear Dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is probably a stupid question, but I&#039;m not seeing anyone talking about Def cap. Does this mean Bear tanks don&#039;t need to be Def capped and should I stack Stam instead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably a stupid question, but I&#8217;m not seeing anyone talking about Def cap. Does this mean Bear tanks don&#8217;t need to be Def capped and should I stack Stam instead?</p>
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		<title>By: Wipehour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wipehour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mistake 380 expertise.  spoke before looking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mistake 380 expertise.  spoke before looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Wipehour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wipehour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I currently hover around 247 hit rating with well over 400 expertise rating.  51k hp in bear unbuffed.  Sack of wonders for the +100 hit and rings give me enough hit for ICC.  i was thinking of getting the frost badge Belt from the vendor (noose or something) giving up the 46 hit rating on my current belt.  putting me at 201 hit.  I&#039;ve tanked through ICC with only 180 hit rating before i got sack of wonders chest.  only problem i ran into was FFF missed a couple times... which at first had me very worried.  after getting to about 200 hit, that seemed to stop.  My question is:  Is it still a good idea to tank with around 200 hit rating?  i dont intend to get any more than this, and dont want to socket hit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently hover around 247 hit rating with well over 400 expertise rating.  51k hp in bear unbuffed.  Sack of wonders for the +100 hit and rings give me enough hit for ICC.  i was thinking of getting the frost badge Belt from the vendor (noose or something) giving up the 46 hit rating on my current belt.  putting me at 201 hit.  I&#8217;ve tanked through ICC with only 180 hit rating before i got sack of wonders chest.  only problem i ran into was FFF missed a couple times&#8230; which at first had me very worried.  after getting to about 200 hit, that seemed to stop.  My question is:  Is it still a good idea to tank with around 200 hit rating?  i dont intend to get any more than this, and dont want to socket hit.</p>
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