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	<title>Comments on: Bear Tanking Specs and Gear Pre-Naxx</title>
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		<title>By: Unyewsial</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-21176</link>
		<dc:creator>Unyewsial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to read most of the comments so i dont know if anyone has said this, but for all of you who are considering bear tanking and saying that rend and tear isnt required, trying to say it politely as possible, you&#039;re wrong. it is a must have, for one simple reason. It opens up Primal gore. Critting lacerates are a boon to threat. To not take that you are severely nerfing your threat output because lacerate is a staple of any single target tanking encounter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to read most of the comments so i dont know if anyone has said this, but for all of you who are considering bear tanking and saying that rend and tear isnt required, trying to say it politely as possible, you&#8217;re wrong. it is a must have, for one simple reason. It opens up Primal gore. Critting lacerates are a boon to threat. To not take that you are severely nerfing your threat output because lacerate is a staple of any single target tanking encounter.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-16845</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little late to this party but it&#039;s worth noting a new weapon courtesy of the Argent Tournament -- the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45128&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silvery Sylan Staff&lt;/a&gt; (or the horde equivalent, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Staff of Feral Furies&lt;/a&gt;).  This costs only 25 Champion&#039;s Seals and can be picked up pretty quickly (especially considering you&#039;re given 10 seals when you hit the Champion rank for the first time and can accumulate 5 per day (as of 3.1.2) -- and, best part for me, no need to grind out dungeons and keep your fingers crossed for the right piece of loot from a boss.  Just something to keep in mind for anyone just hitting 80 and looking for a sweet tanking weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to this party but it&#8217;s worth noting a new weapon courtesy of the Argent Tournament &#8212; the <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45128" rel="nofollow">Silvery Sylan Staff</a> (or the horde equivalent, <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45212" rel="nofollow">Staff of Feral Furies</a>).  This costs only 25 Champion&#8217;s Seals and can be picked up pretty quickly (especially considering you&#8217;re given 10 seals when you hit the Champion rank for the first time and can accumulate 5 per day (as of 3.1.2) &#8212; and, best part for me, no need to grind out dungeons and keep your fingers crossed for the right piece of loot from a boss.  Just something to keep in mind for anyone just hitting 80 and looking for a sweet tanking weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Beefiest&quot;&gt;what if your exact rotation for pulling a mob of about 4 in a 5 man heroic instance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Faerie Fire on second kill target.
Growl on first kill target.
Swipe (all obviously :-D)
Mangle first target

After that I can pretty much just spam mangle/maul/swipe/growl on the first target and nothing runs away. It doesn&#039;t take much to hold mobs unless they are the ones being attacked so focusing on the current kill target with mangle/maul/growl and swiping should be enough to hold them all once you have them in front of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Beefiest"><p>what if your exact rotation for pulling a mob of about 4 in a 5 man heroic instance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Faerie Fire on second kill target.<br />
Growl on first kill target.<br />
Swipe (all obviously :-D)<br />
Mangle first target</p>
<p>After that I can pretty much just spam mangle/maul/swipe/growl on the first target and nothing runs away. It doesn&#8217;t take much to hold mobs unless they are the ones being attacked so focusing on the current kill target with mangle/maul/growl and swiping should be enough to hold them all once you have them in front of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-13993</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
I&#039;m just wondering... Once I dinged 80 I respecced to modify my build and I opted out of Omen and went for a full feral spec. 0/71/0
Is that stupid? I didnt do any mathematical stuff before making my decisions but I just didn&#039;t think the points in resto were necessary any more. I tank heroic 5 mans and 10/25 mans so it can&#039;t be THAT bad to be missing those points out, but with so many people dipping down to get that omen it seems like I might be missing something... Is there something I&#039;m not getting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I&#8217;m just wondering&#8230; Once I dinged 80 I respecced to modify my build and I opted out of Omen and went for a full feral spec. 0/71/0<br />
Is that stupid? I didnt do any mathematical stuff before making my decisions but I just didn&#8217;t think the points in resto were necessary any more. I tank heroic 5 mans and 10/25 mans so it can&#8217;t be THAT bad to be missing those points out, but with so many people dipping down to get that omen it seems like I might be missing something&#8230; Is there something I&#8217;m not getting?</p>
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		<title>By: Rantaur</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-13955</link>
		<dc:creator>Rantaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog. Was looking for a decent guide, and found it here :D
Are SO gonna farm wintergrasp for that helmet. Great value - and very easy to get.

Not sure about ur build, tho. What do you think of this? Love the Brutal Impact talent for spellaborting. Also, dont find that extra 10 expertise worth it. 

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGGscbdceRIczAo0E0z

Keep on writing, and I&#039;ll keep on reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog. Was looking for a decent guide, and found it here :D<br />
Are SO gonna farm wintergrasp for that helmet. Great value &#8211; and very easy to get.</p>
<p>Not sure about ur build, tho. What do you think of this? Love the Brutal Impact talent for spellaborting. Also, dont find that extra 10 expertise worth it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGGscbdceRIczAo0E0z" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGGscbdceRIczAo0E0z</a></p>
<p>Keep on writing, and I&#8217;ll keep on reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Beefiest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beefiest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey BBB,

Nice article.  I feel that it is missing ONE THING however. (&lt;thats being very sarcastic as you might learn very soon)

I was a Moonkin with full, best in slot, epics and pretty much have been ever since the start of the game.  When I reaalized that i was doing Naxx 25m only for more badges and looked at how many badges I had and it was OVER 200, I decided, why not try to pick up a tank set.  I got all the gear you listed and some more, was even able to buy some stuff with badges.

However, not until I got into H UK, did I realize when I switched into bear form that THERE WERE NO HOT KEYS SET UP.

I thought back to when I was an itsy bitsy druid and remembered that I didn&#039;t even train for bear form until about level 30 and even when I did get it never once used it.  Also, I had never even trained in feral abilities.  

Anyway, after I trained in all the abilities, and (tried to) lay out my action bar.....I realized that however good a caster I played, this is a WHOLE new ball game.

What I&#039;m asking for is this.  How is your action bar in bear from laid out?  Also, after completing H UK with some difficulty, as well as a lot of swipe spam, what if your exact rotation for pulling a mob of about 4 in a 5 man heroic instance.

Luckly, I really hope it&#039;s not just that because that will force me to go back to my epic boomkin.  Somehow, I find wrath spam more appealing than Swipe Spam.

Please, any help would be great on how to lay out my action bar as well as a good rotation to follow.

Thanks in advance, 

Beefiest, Haumarush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BBB,</p>
<p>Nice article.  I feel that it is missing ONE THING however. (&lt;thats being very sarcastic as you might learn very soon)</p>
<p>I was a Moonkin with full, best in slot, epics and pretty much have been ever since the start of the game.  When I reaalized that i was doing Naxx 25m only for more badges and looked at how many badges I had and it was OVER 200, I decided, why not try to pick up a tank set.  I got all the gear you listed and some more, was even able to buy some stuff with badges.</p>
<p>However, not until I got into H UK, did I realize when I switched into bear form that THERE WERE NO HOT KEYS SET UP.</p>
<p>I thought back to when I was an itsy bitsy druid and remembered that I didn&#8217;t even train for bear form until about level 30 and even when I did get it never once used it.  Also, I had never even trained in feral abilities.  </p>
<p>Anyway, after I trained in all the abilities, and (tried to) lay out my action bar&#8230;..I realized that however good a caster I played, this is a WHOLE new ball game.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m asking for is this.  How is your action bar in bear from laid out?  Also, after completing H UK with some difficulty, as well as a lot of swipe spam, what if your exact rotation for pulling a mob of about 4 in a 5 man heroic instance.</p>
<p>Luckly, I really hope it&#8217;s not just that because that will force me to go back to my epic boomkin.  Somehow, I find wrath spam more appealing than Swipe Spam.</p>
<p>Please, any help would be great on how to lay out my action bar as well as a good rotation to follow.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance, </p>
<p>Beefiest, Haumarush</p>
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		<title>By: Beefiest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beefiest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I have been a moonkin ever since Vanilla but thought it would be good to get my tank gear ready seeing as how my moonkin gear is best in slot by far.  Just an hour ago I have tanked my first instance after buying all the gear on your list.  However, it really just does not make sence to me.  I have never been a tank nor have I ever looked at other classes.  how am I supposed to keep all these mobs on me before the DPS steals them?  swipe spam?

I also realized that i have not trained in feral since lvl 60 and THERE IS NOT A SINGLE BUTTON ON MY BEAR ACTION BAR.

Could someone post the way their bear action bar is layed out as well as a good way to tank regular 5m content.  

any tips would be appreciated but a full exact rotation would be AMAZING.  ty in advance to anyone who comments and ty BBB for a great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I have been a moonkin ever since Vanilla but thought it would be good to get my tank gear ready seeing as how my moonkin gear is best in slot by far.  Just an hour ago I have tanked my first instance after buying all the gear on your list.  However, it really just does not make sence to me.  I have never been a tank nor have I ever looked at other classes.  how am I supposed to keep all these mobs on me before the DPS steals them?  swipe spam?</p>
<p>I also realized that i have not trained in feral since lvl 60 and THERE IS NOT A SINGLE BUTTON ON MY BEAR ACTION BAR.</p>
<p>Could someone post the way their bear action bar is layed out as well as a good way to tank regular 5m content.  </p>
<p>any tips would be appreciated but a full exact rotation would be AMAZING.  ty in advance to anyone who comments and ty BBB for a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kupuka</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-12807</link>
		<dc:creator>Kupuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titanium Earthguard Ring is nice because of the stats, but it has def rate, i would wait a little instead of spending that much on the dragon eyes.
Rings drop like crazy in Naxx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titanium Earthguard Ring is nice because of the stats, but it has def rate, i would wait a little instead of spending that much on the dragon eyes.<br />
Rings drop like crazy in Naxx.</p>
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		<title>By: Doulos</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/bear-tanking-specs-and-gear-pre-naxx/comment-page-1/#comment-12789</link>
		<dc:creator>Doulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the Darkmoon card cost; I jumped to the same conclusion when I read the patch notes.  I was hoping to find that the Snowfall Ink cost 2-3 Ink of the Sea but based on the picture from El the cost will be 10 Ink of the Sea.  While this will keep me from having to make a bunch of scrolls to use up my Ink of the Sea it will not substantially reduce the Darkmoon cost.  At 10:1 it should only reduce the herb cost 10-15%   It&#039;s not insignificant but neither is it too drastic.  In the end I expect the cost to buy a Darkmoon Nobles set will drop to ~9,000g instead of ~10,000g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Darkmoon card cost; I jumped to the same conclusion when I read the patch notes.  I was hoping to find that the Snowfall Ink cost 2-3 Ink of the Sea but based on the picture from El the cost will be 10 Ink of the Sea.  While this will keep me from having to make a bunch of scrolls to use up my Ink of the Sea it will not substantially reduce the Darkmoon cost.  At 10:1 it should only reduce the herb cost 10-15%   It&#8217;s not insignificant but neither is it too drastic.  In the end I expect the cost to buy a Darkmoon Nobles set will drop to ~9,000g instead of ~10,000g.</p>
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		<title>By: Rotoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rotoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poot-
I did exactly that.  Its simply a matter of choice.  For me, we don&#039;t always have a druid to apply the buff so its a nice to  have and I can shift a couple times if needed to get the instant 10 rage.  For others that consistently have resto druids in their raids it may make more sense to put those 5 points in furor.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a huge payoff one way over the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poot-<br />
I did exactly that.  Its simply a matter of choice.  For me, we don&#8217;t always have a druid to apply the buff so its a nice to  have and I can shift a couple times if needed to get the instant 10 rage.  For others that consistently have resto druids in their raids it may make more sense to put those 5 points in furor.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a huge payoff one way over the other.</p>
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