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	<title>Comments on: Heroic Pugging&#8230; Why me, Lord?</title>
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		<title>By: Rienna</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/heroic-pugging-why-me-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-14138</link>
		<dc:creator>Rienna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[okay, I know I&#039;m a little late on this, but, speaking of PUG&#039;s and heroic VH.... I went in as a druid tank the other day. It wasn&#039;t really a pug, as 2 of the dps were from my guild, but the last dps and healer were not. I&#039;d never done heroic VH before, but I didn&#039;t mind the reg so much. We got through exactly 2 portals before we wiped. yes. 2. and then a complete wipe. It started off bad, and I knew it wasn&#039;t going to make it, but seriously. the 3rd dps was a shaman, and I personally love running with shaman dps&#039;, but when the first portal master popped out and the shaman hit the boss before I did, I knew it wasn&#039;t going to go over well. He&#039;s screaming at me to hold the aggro... but with FFF on CD, growl not catching the portal master&#039;s attention and no rage, what exactly was I supposed to do?

my guild had an LOL moment a few seconds later when said shaman goes &quot;are you even defence capped?&quot;... um... well.. yes... I made sure to put my talent points in that, ty. The shaman finished off with a &quot;you&#039;re the worst tank ever, blah blah blah go read a tank forum&quot; and put me on ignore. and good riddance! I&#039;ll be happy to never run an instance with him again :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, I know I&#8217;m a little late on this, but, speaking of PUG&#8217;s and heroic VH&#8230;. I went in as a druid tank the other day. It wasn&#8217;t really a pug, as 2 of the dps were from my guild, but the last dps and healer were not. I&#8217;d never done heroic VH before, but I didn&#8217;t mind the reg so much. We got through exactly 2 portals before we wiped. yes. 2. and then a complete wipe. It started off bad, and I knew it wasn&#8217;t going to make it, but seriously. the 3rd dps was a shaman, and I personally love running with shaman dps&#8217;, but when the first portal master popped out and the shaman hit the boss before I did, I knew it wasn&#8217;t going to go over well. He&#8217;s screaming at me to hold the aggro&#8230; but with FFF on CD, growl not catching the portal master&#8217;s attention and no rage, what exactly was I supposed to do?</p>
<p>my guild had an LOL moment a few seconds later when said shaman goes &#8220;are you even defence capped?&#8221;&#8230; um&#8230; well.. yes&#8230; I made sure to put my talent points in that, ty. The shaman finished off with a &#8220;you&#8217;re the worst tank ever, blah blah blah go read a tank forum&#8221; and put me on ignore. and good riddance! I&#8217;ll be happy to never run an instance with him again :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sidtreefish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sidtreefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I PuG just about everything, Normals, Heroic, Raids... you name it! (I think that is it anyway... &lt;.&lt;) And yeah, people like the priest pop up every so often, but hey, I just remember, people are morons. I have had people tell me &quot;omg u sukz u ned 2 lrn 2 heal me cause i rulz teh dps&quot; then I just say &quot;Well hey, if you are getting hit, maybe it is you who is doing something wrong, not me.&quot;

I have seen it all, Warriors using bows instead of getting up close and personal, Hunters meleeing and not using ranged. Tanks who turn out to be Restoration in tanking gear tanking Heroics and Shadow Priests brought in to heal but DPS all the same anyway. I have learned to deal with it, and keep in contact with the cool people. I have to make a mention of a DK named Jyssasa who was PuGing a 10 man Naxx run and needed that last healer.

The run went ok, got bosses down, but the best thing about it is that he talked. He got to know people, he got to know me. He invited me to every single raid, heroic he was doing, and was just a pleasure to run things with. It saddened me when he moved to another server, cause I was proud to call him a friend, I knew him.

PuGs can be amazing if you are lucky. It can be like &quot;Oh hey, nice run guys. Cya! /leaveparty&quot; or it can be like &quot;Nice run guys, you up for another? You guys are awesome, mind if I keep in contact with you?&quot; which I love.

I keep PuGing, and I keep doing guild stuff, but PuGing things can be really great for you in the long run. People like Jyssana don&#039;t come around very often, and it is a great thing when they do, it makes the game and my life more fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I PuG just about everything, Normals, Heroic, Raids&#8230; you name it! (I think that is it anyway&#8230; &lt;.&lt;) And yeah, people like the priest pop up every so often, but hey, I just remember, people are morons. I have had people tell me &#8220;omg u sukz u ned 2 lrn 2 heal me cause i rulz teh dps&#8221; then I just say &#8220;Well hey, if you are getting hit, maybe it is you who is doing something wrong, not me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have seen it all, Warriors using bows instead of getting up close and personal, Hunters meleeing and not using ranged. Tanks who turn out to be Restoration in tanking gear tanking Heroics and Shadow Priests brought in to heal but DPS all the same anyway. I have learned to deal with it, and keep in contact with the cool people. I have to make a mention of a DK named Jyssasa who was PuGing a 10 man Naxx run and needed that last healer.</p>
<p>The run went ok, got bosses down, but the best thing about it is that he talked. He got to know people, he got to know me. He invited me to every single raid, heroic he was doing, and was just a pleasure to run things with. It saddened me when he moved to another server, cause I was proud to call him a friend, I knew him.</p>
<p>PuGs can be amazing if you are lucky. It can be like &#8220;Oh hey, nice run guys. Cya! /leaveparty&#8221; or it can be like &#8220;Nice run guys, you up for another? You guys are awesome, mind if I keep in contact with you?&#8221; which I love.</p>
<p>I keep PuGing, and I keep doing guild stuff, but PuGing things can be really great for you in the long run. People like Jyssana don&#8217;t come around very often, and it is a great thing when they do, it makes the game and my life more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ærynn Lómëhtar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ærynn Lómëhtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to tell you about a PUG tank I went with, too. When I first went into Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle, I didn&#039;t know the instance or the fights, and after soloing most of the content up to level 80, I had just painfully reconstructed my macros and my UI to be instance/raid ready. At the time also, I had been ill and my reflexes and hand-eye coordination was shot. None of these, of course, the PUG knew and I didn&#039;t want to offer any excuses; I also remembered my performance in the final days of BC when I can go in any instance half asleep and chain trap for 5 minutes.

Long story short the entire run was a fiasco. I was trigger happy and pulled before the tank, botched up my traps and didn&#039;t know how to use my freezing arrow. The PUG tank was very upset and he had every right to be. I was behaving like Little Miss Huntard; it didn&#039;t help that before the fight I mentioned that his current guild, to which I used to belong to and still have fond feelings for, used to be known for the skill of their hunters. I was embarrassed and knew that I cannot give any excuses now. I just had to accept that I need to prove myself... that I was, if not the best, at least competent in my class. At the very least, I determined not to act any more like a huntard and give a retort.

Despite my poor performance during the early parts of the raid, he didn&#039;t kick me and still patiently explained all the fights. After we killed the last boss (and despite still having not redeemed myself), the tank was still polite and cordial, though still clearly upset. But, there is a happy ending to this story—he actually gave me one more shot to redeem myself in Heroic Utgarde Keep IMMEDIATELY afterwards... where I did. We both now regularly PUG together and, I hope, finally shown him that what happened was just a fluke.

Anybody else would have gone &quot;KK, thx bye&quot; and kicked me of the group, got another DPS (and there were plenty on General chat going LFG for UK), put me on ignore, put me on some blacklist... never given me another chance to show that I can learn, that I have what it takes, that I can be competent. But not this Holy Paladin... despite being really upset, this guy believed in redemption. How many times have I written off a poorly performing player after the first try? And I hated PUGs; but thanks to this paladin, I don&#039;t fear them as much anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to tell you about a PUG tank I went with, too. When I first went into Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle, I didn&#8217;t know the instance or the fights, and after soloing most of the content up to level 80, I had just painfully reconstructed my macros and my UI to be instance/raid ready. At the time also, I had been ill and my reflexes and hand-eye coordination was shot. None of these, of course, the PUG knew and I didn&#8217;t want to offer any excuses; I also remembered my performance in the final days of BC when I can go in any instance half asleep and chain trap for 5 minutes.</p>
<p>Long story short the entire run was a fiasco. I was trigger happy and pulled before the tank, botched up my traps and didn&#8217;t know how to use my freezing arrow. The PUG tank was very upset and he had every right to be. I was behaving like Little Miss Huntard; it didn&#8217;t help that before the fight I mentioned that his current guild, to which I used to belong to and still have fond feelings for, used to be known for the skill of their hunters. I was embarrassed and knew that I cannot give any excuses now. I just had to accept that I need to prove myself&#8230; that I was, if not the best, at least competent in my class. At the very least, I determined not to act any more like a huntard and give a retort.</p>
<p>Despite my poor performance during the early parts of the raid, he didn&#8217;t kick me and still patiently explained all the fights. After we killed the last boss (and despite still having not redeemed myself), the tank was still polite and cordial, though still clearly upset. But, there is a happy ending to this story—he actually gave me one more shot to redeem myself in Heroic Utgarde Keep IMMEDIATELY afterwards&#8230; where I did. We both now regularly PUG together and, I hope, finally shown him that what happened was just a fluke.</p>
<p>Anybody else would have gone &#8220;KK, thx bye&#8221; and kicked me of the group, got another DPS (and there were plenty on General chat going LFG for UK), put me on ignore, put me on some blacklist&#8230; never given me another chance to show that I can learn, that I have what it takes, that I can be competent. But not this Holy Paladin&#8230; despite being really upset, this guy believed in redemption. How many times have I written off a poorly performing player after the first try? And I hated PUGs; but thanks to this paladin, I don&#8217;t fear them as much anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My latest, most mouth frothingly frustrating, pug attempts were for the infamous &quot;For the Alliance!&quot; achievement. I went on 7 (7!!!) failed attempts. Each was highly unorganized, with 2 or 3 other raid assists trying to give orders over the raid leader. And when we were told &quot;group up here and wait&quot; only half the raid would. If things didn&#039;t move for 10 minutes people would leave. In at least one 2, I will assume, 15 yr old buddies decided to muddy up raid chat exchanging insults for half an hour and interjecting &quot;Y&#039;all know we are just playin right?&quot;. I replied &quot;yes, but it doesn&#039;t make it less annoying&quot;. Whatever. When we finally, finally get the whole thing organized and get moving....OH GOD! Path of Frost spam! I start lagging like a crazy thing. Any requests by anyone to please stop the spam results in more spamming. So we finally, finally get to Thrall or Cairne (and luckily my graphics card hasn&#039;t exploded) and without a cohesive plan everyone Leeroy&#039;s it. And dies. 

A few nights ago, and I had actually given up, I join another raid out of boredom and perhaps a glimmer of hope for my war bear (also because they were requesting only 78 and up, which queued the hope). We met up in Ratchet as per usual and as we gathered and waited it dawned on me something was different. It was taking a while for everyone to get there and yet people waited, nobody left, no bitching. The warlock brought enough shards to summon stragglers. The raid leader was giving orders and not ONLY were people following them, but nobody argued either. We took off for Thunder Bluff and when the call to regroup went up, people actually regrouped. The DKs even stopped spamming PoF when asked. Truly a miracle was happening. Sure enough we rushed to Cairne and BOOM, down he went. The next 3 leaders soon followed and I got my bear and a little faith in humanity. Amazing what a little patience and maturity accomplishes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My latest, most mouth frothingly frustrating, pug attempts were for the infamous &#8220;For the Alliance!&#8221; achievement. I went on 7 (7!!!) failed attempts. Each was highly unorganized, with 2 or 3 other raid assists trying to give orders over the raid leader. And when we were told &#8220;group up here and wait&#8221; only half the raid would. If things didn&#8217;t move for 10 minutes people would leave. In at least one 2, I will assume, 15 yr old buddies decided to muddy up raid chat exchanging insults for half an hour and interjecting &#8220;Y&#8217;all know we are just playin right?&#8221;. I replied &#8220;yes, but it doesn&#8217;t make it less annoying&#8221;. Whatever. When we finally, finally get the whole thing organized and get moving&#8230;.OH GOD! Path of Frost spam! I start lagging like a crazy thing. Any requests by anyone to please stop the spam results in more spamming. So we finally, finally get to Thrall or Cairne (and luckily my graphics card hasn&#8217;t exploded) and without a cohesive plan everyone Leeroy&#8217;s it. And dies. </p>
<p>A few nights ago, and I had actually given up, I join another raid out of boredom and perhaps a glimmer of hope for my war bear (also because they were requesting only 78 and up, which queued the hope). We met up in Ratchet as per usual and as we gathered and waited it dawned on me something was different. It was taking a while for everyone to get there and yet people waited, nobody left, no bitching. The warlock brought enough shards to summon stragglers. The raid leader was giving orders and not ONLY were people following them, but nobody argued either. We took off for Thunder Bluff and when the call to regroup went up, people actually regrouped. The DKs even stopped spamming PoF when asked. Truly a miracle was happening. Sure enough we rushed to Cairne and BOOM, down he went. The next 3 leaders soon followed and I got my bear and a little faith in humanity. Amazing what a little patience and maturity accomplishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Crofe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crofe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to mention a pug I was in a long while ago.  It was on my fairly new level 70 Hunter and the instance was CoT: BM.  I hadn&#039;t done BM before, I had been avoiding it because I heard it was &quot;harder&quot; than other instances.  But I was at the point of needing BM for my Kara key, so I had to go.

I got invited to a truly pug group, no one from the same guild.  I explained that I&#039;d not been there before and they explained what I&#039;d need to do (without the benifit of Vent).  We one shot the instance, and quickly.  So quickly that we did it again because no one wanted to leave the group and go about our normal PuG experiences.

Not only was this the best PuG group I had ever been in, but it also got me invited into a raiding guild that was already heavy with hunters since the tank turned out to be the main of the person I was talking to the day before about applying to the guild.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to mention a pug I was in a long while ago.  It was on my fairly new level 70 Hunter and the instance was CoT: BM.  I hadn&#8217;t done BM before, I had been avoiding it because I heard it was &#8220;harder&#8221; than other instances.  But I was at the point of needing BM for my Kara key, so I had to go.</p>
<p>I got invited to a truly pug group, no one from the same guild.  I explained that I&#8217;d not been there before and they explained what I&#8217;d need to do (without the benifit of Vent).  We one shot the instance, and quickly.  So quickly that we did it again because no one wanted to leave the group and go about our normal PuG experiences.</p>
<p>Not only was this the best PuG group I had ever been in, but it also got me invited into a raiding guild that was already heavy with hunters since the tank turned out to be the main of the person I was talking to the day before about applying to the guild.</p>
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		<title>By: Xathras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xathras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve mostly been running with PuGs since dinging 80 (a week and a half after wrath went live), and generally I&#039;ve had a good experience.  Now, this is the exact opposite of my experience in TBC.  Everytime I managed to PUG in TBC was terrible.  It didn&#039;t happen often because I play a hunter and people tended to assume I was a huntard (I&#039;m guessing here, educated guess but a guess still).
For some reason with wrath I&#039;ve had good luck pugging and run with some really good groups.  Part of it I think is that I was one of the earliest people on my server to ding 80.  As a result most of the other 80s were fairly hardcore and fairly good.  Now that I have some friends at 80 I&#039;m hoping that my pugging days are numbered.  I&#039;d much rather run with my guild mates than with some random PUG, but we&#039;ll see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve mostly been running with PuGs since dinging 80 (a week and a half after wrath went live), and generally I&#8217;ve had a good experience.  Now, this is the exact opposite of my experience in TBC.  Everytime I managed to PUG in TBC was terrible.  It didn&#8217;t happen often because I play a hunter and people tended to assume I was a huntard (I&#8217;m guessing here, educated guess but a guess still).<br />
For some reason with wrath I&#8217;ve had good luck pugging and run with some really good groups.  Part of it I think is that I was one of the earliest people on my server to ding 80.  As a result most of the other 80s were fairly hardcore and fairly good.  Now that I have some friends at 80 I&#8217;m hoping that my pugging days are numbered.  I&#8217;d much rather run with my guild mates than with some random PUG, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: AltoholicsAreUs</title>
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		<dc:creator>AltoholicsAreUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been running with PuGs despite a great guild since Ive been playing, about a month after release of the game. Over time Ive noticed that PuGs have become jerks moreso as time wore on. Back in the old days it was very common to see a PuG for 15 man UBRS (which was difficult to run and took a bit of time). And no matter the wipes people were always trying. There was no emblems or badges back then, just sheer luck on the drops. And everyone was polite and no one complained. However, in TBC and now in WotLK I find that people have developed quite the elitist attiude, and I don&#039;t have a lot of patience for it. I still run with PuGs because if I wanna get something done, Im gonna go do it, and honestly, Ive met some really really awesome people in them. However every now and again you meet that one JERK that really throws you for a loop... I just brush em off and move on to the next one. Best of luck to you in your runs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been running with PuGs despite a great guild since Ive been playing, about a month after release of the game. Over time Ive noticed that PuGs have become jerks moreso as time wore on. Back in the old days it was very common to see a PuG for 15 man UBRS (which was difficult to run and took a bit of time). And no matter the wipes people were always trying. There was no emblems or badges back then, just sheer luck on the drops. And everyone was polite and no one complained. However, in TBC and now in WotLK I find that people have developed quite the elitist attiude, and I don&#8217;t have a lot of patience for it. I still run with PuGs because if I wanna get something done, Im gonna go do it, and honestly, Ive met some really really awesome people in them. However every now and again you meet that one JERK that really throws you for a loop&#8230; I just brush em off and move on to the next one. Best of luck to you in your runs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooriah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooriah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve noticed that on my server over the last week the dungeons have changed. I&#039;ve ran so many heroic Nex and HoL that I dream about them. For the last week, mobs have been spaced differently and last night in Nex, one mob of mana wraiths were completely absent. In H HoL, the stupid little spawns the boss spawns when he hits his anvil were either  glitched or totally different. Normally when you &quot;kill&quot; them they go petrified and turn from red to gray. A few went  gray but kept moving and beating on our mage. They did no damage but followed her everywhere. On Sunday, we couldn&#039;t even beat Loken, someone the same group has killed without wipe 10+ times in heroic. 

Either Blizz is mixing things up a bit in the dungeons or some instability is happening. However, I have to say Culling of Strath and Violet Hold on heroic are my faves for boomkin AoE fun. I&#039;m itching to get the zombiefest achievement with typhoon soon :) We call it the street sweeper.

Grats on running heroics! The epic tanking staff from the final boss in H Violet Hold (Staff of Trickery) has dropped three times now :( It sits in my bank unused for fear of the upcoming nerf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that on my server over the last week the dungeons have changed. I&#8217;ve ran so many heroic Nex and HoL that I dream about them. For the last week, mobs have been spaced differently and last night in Nex, one mob of mana wraiths were completely absent. In H HoL, the stupid little spawns the boss spawns when he hits his anvil were either  glitched or totally different. Normally when you &#8220;kill&#8221; them they go petrified and turn from red to gray. A few went  gray but kept moving and beating on our mage. They did no damage but followed her everywhere. On Sunday, we couldn&#8217;t even beat Loken, someone the same group has killed without wipe 10+ times in heroic. </p>
<p>Either Blizz is mixing things up a bit in the dungeons or some instability is happening. However, I have to say Culling of Strath and Violet Hold on heroic are my faves for boomkin AoE fun. I&#8217;m itching to get the zombiefest achievement with typhoon soon :) We call it the street sweeper.</p>
<p>Grats on running heroics! The epic tanking staff from the final boss in H Violet Hold (Staff of Trickery) has dropped three times now :( It sits in my bank unused for fear of the upcoming nerf.</p>
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		<title>By: SaladFork</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaladFork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey BBB, thanks so much for the second PUG story, it really made me smile in the middle of a busy work day. It&#039;s always such an uplifting experience when you get a great PUG group.

Closest I&#039;ve had to your first one was a PoM Pyro mage in a H-VH run who was trying to tell me that his spec was excellent for raids. I was running H-VH for no reason other than to pick up the spell hit trinket from the last boss, and after 22 runs without getting it, I was only joining groups if they would all pass the trinket to me if it dropped. This mage refused to claiming he needed it just as much (he was guildless, all 70 gear, PoM Pyro specced). I said whatever, dropped the group, and went along my merry way. Long story short, I now have a better trinket, he&#039;s in my guild, and I&#039;m the mage lead. He&#039;s a lot cooler guy than I thought, but I have the authority to yell at him whenever I get bored, =P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BBB, thanks so much for the second PUG story, it really made me smile in the middle of a busy work day. It&#8217;s always such an uplifting experience when you get a great PUG group.</p>
<p>Closest I&#8217;ve had to your first one was a PoM Pyro mage in a H-VH run who was trying to tell me that his spec was excellent for raids. I was running H-VH for no reason other than to pick up the spell hit trinket from the last boss, and after 22 runs without getting it, I was only joining groups if they would all pass the trinket to me if it dropped. This mage refused to claiming he needed it just as much (he was guildless, all 70 gear, PoM Pyro specced). I said whatever, dropped the group, and went along my merry way. Long story short, I now have a better trinket, he&#8217;s in my guild, and I&#8217;m the mage lead. He&#8217;s a lot cooler guy than I thought, but I have the authority to yell at him whenever I get bored, =P</p>
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		<title>By: toque</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/01/05/heroic-pugging-why-me-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-12693</link>
		<dc:creator>toque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I pug a lot, and almost always have really good experiences with it. For some reason the level of tanking/healing in puggers is really high on my server (Scarlet Crusade). The pugs I run almost never wipe. 

This is something I&#039;ve said a lot, but if you are looking for a higher ratio of mature players go to an RP server.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pug a lot, and almost always have really good experiences with it. For some reason the level of tanking/healing in puggers is really high on my server (Scarlet Crusade). The pugs I run almost never wipe. </p>
<p>This is something I&#8217;ve said a lot, but if you are looking for a higher ratio of mature players go to an RP server.</p>
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