The more then one nights raiding is a hard one for your group. What is nice about Naxx is that each week you have a different quarter to chose from. Above all else I think that is the beauty of Naxx as a raid.

Something happened to me yesterday that really enraged me. A PUG was being put together for 10m OS, and I asked to join as MT. I mentioned that I have tanked OS in both 10m and 25m. After doing my homework, spending a bunch of cash to level LW from 0, doing a lot of heroic instances runs, and all the other annoying stuff you do to gear up for raids, I feel that I have about 95% of the best feral tanking gear I can get/buy/craft/badge pre-naxx.

The leader asks me to come to IF for a ‘gear check’ (one of these wonderful elitest player inventions with the advent of Wotlk), he looks at my gear with my self-buffed 34,000 HP and 33600 Armor and asks why I am in my cat gear. I kindly explain that this is some of the best pre-naxx feral gear in the game. He then whisps me the following ‘DPS and resist gear?’ (on the count of my polar boots and belt) and then boots me from the raid.

I whisper him to get a clue and he replys that I should lookup the druids in his guild for tanking gear. I do and they are wearing almost the exact same set I am.

The long and short of it is that this was my gear:

Shroud of Darkness (Gemmed/Activated with Austere Earthsiege Diamond)
Chained Military Gorget
Durable Nerubhide Cape
Trollwoven Spaulders
Valorous Dreamwalker Raiments
Bindings of the Tunnler
Heroes’ Dreamwalker Handgrips
Polar Belt
Gored Hide Leggings
Polar Boots
Keystone Greatring
Hemorrhaging Circle
Essense of Gossamer
Valor Medal of the First War
Staff of Trickery

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Etris

This guy hit my ignore list and I won’t be grouping with him again.

How do you guys deal with people like this?

Utter = EU-Turalyon

So for your guild to actually show up on time and do the content and make it look easy, well that’s a huge testament.

We tried two raid nights a week with our guild, discovered people were all over the place as far as ‘best time’. Best time for casual guilds like ours seems to be Sat night at 9pm EST. We also discovered that those who were interested in raiding were much more interested in Naxx than any TBC or vanilla wow content. I’m (and the other raid leader) much more interested in the later so I’m pretty much dragging them through kicking and screaming. We alternate one week new content, the next week old content, and trade off being raid lead.

Through this we found that a bunch of our well geared 80s aren’t interested at all in this stuff and would even go on guild raids, because ‘we’re too prone to failing’….So yeah, you have to deal with attitudes alot. We’ve already had a guild fracture, i predict more will come, its natural. For casual guilds, expect that alot of people are going to be moving through, gearing up in the guild, then leaving for a raiding guild.

grats on the kills.

I wouldn’t worry about your gloves. The only gloves that are better for a bear, and then only marginally are the T7.25 gloves.

:) I’m still rockin them, waiting on my token.

Shkam

I’ve gone to a few runs with other guilds as my guildies level up / gear up / etc, and our first true guild run, we also successfully cleared Arachnid Quarter the first time around (we actually managed to 1-shot it with at least half of the raid never having done Naxx (10/25/40) at all), so I can definitely appreciate the feeling of accomplishment getting it, even with a few hiccups as you learn the fights.

And yes, as a bear tank, eating the Locust Swarm for me, especially on 10-man, is just so much easier. When I asked the main healer, my wife, how healing me through it was, her response was “I didn’t really notice a difference.”

We’re a fairly casual raiding guild as well, and what we do is schedule a “raid” night, mostly around our Off-Tank, as he has an odd work schedule. For example, this week, Thursday is our “raid” night – what that means is that we’ll plan to hit 10-man Arch, Sarth, and/or Naxx depending on time / people on. After that, Naxx runs tend to be pretty much “do we have the right mix of people on and / or do we have non-guild friends that want to go to fill in slots?” We’ve been pretty lucky in only having to ever truly PuG 1 slot on raids when someone didn’t show or had to leave / etc. It’s harder as a casual guild that raids than it is for a raiding guild, but that’s worked for us so far – and we try to plan it far enough in advance (3-4 days) that folks know when it will be so they can plan accordingly – or let us know in advance if they can’t so we can try to secure someone else who can make it.

They are also moving servers to an east coast server. The lag on ours is too much, and we got offered a free transfer to another. And almost the whole guild took it. I can’t make the raid times anyway, and will have even less luck searching an East coast server for pugs. I pugged Naxx last night and it was a fail fest from beginning two end. It’s such a huge difference between raiding with your guild and learning new content, and raiding with 7 or 8 strangers and learning new content. It’s pretty sucky.

Good luck with your scheduling! Glad I’m not trying to run a guild myself.