That is all.

Point being there are tons of ways to make money without competing with the big guys

Assuming the point is to make money . . . which, for me, it wasn’t. The point was to (1) level up mining for the stam bonus and (2) accumulate the ore to level up engineering to get the level 72 version of tankatronic goggles at level 72.

And even if the point is to make money, saying, “there are other ways” kinda’ misses . . . well misses the point. What if I want to mine in Sholozar while I’m levelling up? This isn’t like other changes that give a certain group of players something without any impact on other groups. Like letting players buy mounts easier and earlier. Or making some holiday achievements only available to level 80s. This change gives something very nice to one group of players (established players with level 80s, money, alts) that has a negative impact on another group of players (new players competing with them for Northrend resources).

Does that make it a bad change? I don’t know. It’s just a different perspective. I don’t see this change and think “Yay!” Maybe next year. But right now I see it and think “Sh**. That’s gonna’ make mining Sholozar even more of a b****.”

One notable friend has gotten banned twice(lost all characters, had to start over) for botting his characters to the level cap, but playing normally afterwards. He’s an idiot in this regard, but perhaps the recent changes would have led him to act differently.

Okay, probably not. But still, there are a lot of people with alts and this will be welcome news for them.

And us warrior tanks gonna be getting some usefuls rage changes too, so cheers all around!

So what to do? Well; a) mine in off-hours, b) mine in off-places, c) do you need saronite? It’s dirt cheap. Why not just buy it. What about thorium? You can hit say 5 rich thorium in an hour in winterspring and get about 2x profit, then go and just buy the ore.

What I did on my DK: mine 0-300 JC 0-300 at level 62 (level doesn’t matter btw). mine 300-375 in a few hours with an epic mount at 70. Mine 375-450 at 77 in NR (i did cheat some and level a bit here and there, i was at mine 400 i think).

Doing exactly the same thing as everyone else is not going to lead to much profit.

You could a) do the icecrown dailies for 200g in an hour pretty readily, or b) herb farm in barrens for an hour, 100g easily (stacks selling for 10g each), or c) farm cobalt and smelt it, or d) take up JC, buy peoples ore, prospect and sell or e) run stratthorn and DE the greens, the mats are worth 1g each (probably 100g just in that and runecloth)…

Point being there are tons of ways to make money without competing with the big guys on the big mounts who are 80 while you are 72. Go hit just my two coppers forums for more ideas.

I still think blizzard is going to let existing players sponsor a new player up to lvl 58 or something (remember new players have to buy 3 “games” just to get started). Sure they have sped up leveling, but who wants to level (and you don’t learn anything while leveling so don’t give that) when “all your friends” are at the level cap. I just started a pally alt and it just sucked to level her up to lvl 20 (where she sits). I had 2 heirloom items and it went rather fast, but still. Ugh!

It doesn’t really change anything for people in your situation . . . If not for this book, it’d be the same player on his 80.

Assuming he has an 80 that is also his miner.

The aggro radius of the guy my level will be mostly irrelevant. I’m going to aggro all the relevant mobs because I’m the one on the ground. Then while I’m dealing with that, he’ll swoop down and mine my node.