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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Wiebitte</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/03/picking-the-perfect-cross-faction-alt/comment-page-1/#comment-19477</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiebitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aren&#039;t you a tauren druid already?  Or am I in that mine field?  Speaking of - how about just running some bendable duct to your side of the bed and using of all things - duct tape : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aren&#8217;t you a tauren druid already?  Or am I in that mine field?  Speaking of &#8211; how about just running some bendable duct to your side of the bed and using of all things &#8211; duct tape : )</p>
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		<title>By: Matojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gone back and started poking at Alliance alts. It&#039;s really awesome to do a bit of a switchover, check out the other side, get a feel for the other quests and lore. 

My Nelfdruid hits Entangling Roots, Wrath x2, Root, Wrath, Root, etc &#039;til dead. I can kill stuff pretty damn quickly that way and have been trying it on my new moodrood, too. Enjoy the moos! The boys are kinda awesome.
.-= Matojo&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://matojo.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/oh-weekends-you-silly-things/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh, Weekends. You Silly Things.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gone back and started poking at Alliance alts. It&#8217;s really awesome to do a bit of a switchover, check out the other side, get a feel for the other quests and lore. </p>
<p>My Nelfdruid hits Entangling Roots, Wrath x2, Root, Wrath, Root, etc &#8217;til dead. I can kill stuff pretty damn quickly that way and have been trying it on my new moodrood, too. Enjoy the moos! The boys are kinda awesome.<br />
.-= Matojo&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://matojo.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/oh-weekends-you-silly-things/" rel="nofollow">Oh, Weekends. You Silly Things.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Fangtastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fangtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUST in time too BBB - when the servers are back up today, you&#039;ll be able to enjoy the awesome Tauren feral forms. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUST in time too BBB &#8211; when the servers are back up today, you&#8217;ll be able to enjoy the awesome Tauren feral forms. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kemonojin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kemonojin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definately the good guys now. :D 

My druid grew up balance, 1-60, long before the first expansion. Even main tanked up to UBRS (with a clown whispering me that I couldn&#039;t possibly main tank, while I was doing it. The rest of the group whispered him back that I was doing fine, and to STFU and quit bothering their tank) as moonkin. 

My favorite bit as moonkin; winning a duel with the dance. Outside Org, someone challenged me, and I blow at pvp in general so I was just going to have some fun with it... It counted down, and at 1 I started dancing. 

He just stood there. 

After a few seconds, I pounded him with starfire and such, and he lost, still having just stood there; I asked what happened and he said he was laughing so hard he couldn&#039;t move.

One of us... One of us... come to the light side, BBB...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately the good guys now. :D </p>
<p>My druid grew up balance, 1-60, long before the first expansion. Even main tanked up to UBRS (with a clown whispering me that I couldn&#8217;t possibly main tank, while I was doing it. The rest of the group whispered him back that I was doing fine, and to STFU and quit bothering their tank) as moonkin. </p>
<p>My favorite bit as moonkin; winning a duel with the dance. Outside Org, someone challenged me, and I blow at pvp in general so I was just going to have some fun with it&#8230; It counted down, and at 1 I started dancing. </p>
<p>He just stood there. </p>
<p>After a few seconds, I pounded him with starfire and such, and he lost, still having just stood there; I asked what happened and he said he was laughing so hard he couldn&#8217;t move.</p>
<p>One of us&#8230; One of us&#8230; come to the light side, BBB&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Suxxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suxxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have seriously crossed the line, B3; you are not &quot;out there&quot;, you are &quot;beyond&quot;.
First healing, now Horde!!!
/shakes head in amazement
(is this your version of a mid-life crisis?)

Welcome to the &quot;good guys&quot; /flame-suit on

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have seriously crossed the line, B3; you are not &#8220;out there&#8221;, you are &#8220;beyond&#8221;.<br />
First healing, now Horde!!!<br />
/shakes head in amazement<br />
(is this your version of a mid-life crisis?)</p>
<p>Welcome to the &#8220;good guys&#8221; /flame-suit on</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Nighthawque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nighthawque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my baby horde druid.  Seeing things from the other side is interesting to say the least.  O yeah, done the feral and resto thing so this guy is balance all the way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my baby horde druid.  Seeing things from the other side is interesting to say the least.  O yeah, done the feral and resto thing so this guy is balance all the way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first Druid, my first character in fact, as a total nooblet, I started a feral/balance hybrid and stuck with that until sometime in the mid-30s.  My MO was mostly what you describe: Pull, roots, blast away until they got into melee range, go feral on their butts.  It was tons o&#039; fun.  Ironically, it was playing my 2nd Druid, a resto, that I decided to make my first one fully feral.  Just killing things on the Feralas coast in a set of Feral gear I&#039;d been collecting I decided I really liked watching mobs&#039; health bleed away.  I wanted to see Mangle&#039;s effect on it.  And it was very, very nice to just kill &amp; move without ever having to make mana stops.

So I switched druid #1 to pure cat and love it.  I have, like, no mana and no spell power, but heals = no downtime and unless I&#039;m way in over my head, even my minimal mp5 is enough to keep up mana between heals.

So balance . . . I set aside balance entirely until I could dual spec and went resto/balance with Druid #2 since both specs can use the spellcasting gear I already had.

balance v feral pro:
Bigger numbers.  My feral and resto/balance druids have never been the same level, so I don&#039;t how dps compares straight across . . . but I have noticed feral dps comes mainly in many small hits and balance in fewer but bigger hits.  And big numbers are fun.  I know.  Not a significant &quot;pro&quot; . . . but dangit, they are.

Range.  Ranged dps is just easier.  With a tank, there are a lot of fights where you just don&#039;t have to move.  You stand there and blast away, change targets will casting the final kill spell and queue up the first spell on the new target.  No, &quot;target is out of range&quot; when they run or the tank moves, no wasted combo points while you switch targets . . . just bam, bam, bam.

balance v feral con:
Mana. Mana, mana, mana is a huge issue.  It took exactly one instance run to realize where &quot;oomkin&quot; comes from.  Holy Jeez I was out of mana so fast so often it slowed everyone down and I felt horribly guilty.  Went straight to a trainer and respecced to include Dreamstate (10% INT mp5) in the build.  And I&#039;m still slower regenerating mana than I&#039;d like (being accustomed to Resto&#039;s 50% mp5 continuing while casting), but it&#039;s better.

So now I&#039;ve decided, for grins, that I want to level up a balance druid.  Levels 1-20 tend to follow the pull, root, feral MO.  Once I passed 20, though, just slamming down starfire and taking hits to the face generally kills things faster than changing to feral.  Mana is still an issue.  I can&#039;t pick up Dreamstate until level 35, but believe me, I&#039;m getting it then.  Which is saying something when the other choices at that tier are Balance of Power(+4% hit) and Moonfury(+10% dmg).  Just, going oom midcombat sucks that much.  In the meantime, at level 26, I picked up a point of Moonglow(-3% mana costs), eat sagefish(2mp5) like a fiend (yay hillsbrad!), keep mana oil(4mp5) on my weapon instead of wizard oil(8 spell power) and keep 2 stacks of drink in my inventory.

Means I only have to mana up every 4-5 fights instead of every 2-3 while out solo questing.  Man, I can&#039;t wait for Innervate at level 40.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first Druid, my first character in fact, as a total nooblet, I started a feral/balance hybrid and stuck with that until sometime in the mid-30s.  My MO was mostly what you describe: Pull, roots, blast away until they got into melee range, go feral on their butts.  It was tons o&#8217; fun.  Ironically, it was playing my 2nd Druid, a resto, that I decided to make my first one fully feral.  Just killing things on the Feralas coast in a set of Feral gear I&#8217;d been collecting I decided I really liked watching mobs&#8217; health bleed away.  I wanted to see Mangle&#8217;s effect on it.  And it was very, very nice to just kill &amp; move without ever having to make mana stops.</p>
<p>So I switched druid #1 to pure cat and love it.  I have, like, no mana and no spell power, but heals = no downtime and unless I&#8217;m way in over my head, even my minimal mp5 is enough to keep up mana between heals.</p>
<p>So balance . . . I set aside balance entirely until I could dual spec and went resto/balance with Druid #2 since both specs can use the spellcasting gear I already had.</p>
<p>balance v feral pro:<br />
Bigger numbers.  My feral and resto/balance druids have never been the same level, so I don&#8217;t how dps compares straight across . . . but I have noticed feral dps comes mainly in many small hits and balance in fewer but bigger hits.  And big numbers are fun.  I know.  Not a significant &#8220;pro&#8221; . . . but dangit, they are.</p>
<p>Range.  Ranged dps is just easier.  With a tank, there are a lot of fights where you just don&#8217;t have to move.  You stand there and blast away, change targets will casting the final kill spell and queue up the first spell on the new target.  No, &#8220;target is out of range&#8221; when they run or the tank moves, no wasted combo points while you switch targets . . . just bam, bam, bam.</p>
<p>balance v feral con:<br />
Mana. Mana, mana, mana is a huge issue.  It took exactly one instance run to realize where &#8220;oomkin&#8221; comes from.  Holy Jeez I was out of mana so fast so often it slowed everyone down and I felt horribly guilty.  Went straight to a trainer and respecced to include Dreamstate (10% INT mp5) in the build.  And I&#8217;m still slower regenerating mana than I&#8217;d like (being accustomed to Resto&#8217;s 50% mp5 continuing while casting), but it&#8217;s better.</p>
<p>So now I&#8217;ve decided, for grins, that I want to level up a balance druid.  Levels 1-20 tend to follow the pull, root, feral MO.  Once I passed 20, though, just slamming down starfire and taking hits to the face generally kills things faster than changing to feral.  Mana is still an issue.  I can&#8217;t pick up Dreamstate until level 35, but believe me, I&#8217;m getting it then.  Which is saying something when the other choices at that tier are Balance of Power(+4% hit) and Moonfury(+10% dmg).  Just, going oom midcombat sucks that much.  In the meantime, at level 26, I picked up a point of Moonglow(-3% mana costs), eat sagefish(2mp5) like a fiend (yay hillsbrad!), keep mana oil(4mp5) on my weapon instead of wizard oil(8 spell power) and keep 2 stacks of drink in my inventory.</p>
<p>Means I only have to mana up every 4-5 fights instead of every 2-3 while out solo questing.  Man, I can&#8217;t wait for Innervate at level 40.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaedra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Tauren druid is the furthest alt I&#039;ve leveled along by myself just about. It&#039;s relaxing to go back and play a lowbie again, only knowing what you&#039;re doing. And I found the same thing: switching in and out of bear form is clunky. I&#039;ve been sticking with wrathx2, moonfire, melee, with only going bear with multple mobs are pulled (oh swipe how I missed you) or for hitting up elites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Tauren druid is the furthest alt I&#8217;ve leveled along by myself just about. It&#8217;s relaxing to go back and play a lowbie again, only knowing what you&#8217;re doing. And I found the same thing: switching in and out of bear form is clunky. I&#8217;ve been sticking with wrathx2, moonfire, melee, with only going bear with multple mobs are pulled (oh swipe how I missed you) or for hitting up elites.</p>
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		<title>By: Copey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leveling 1-70 as balance I have one word for you:  Ouch.  That’s how I did it, and if I had it to do over I would have gone cat and then switched when I got to high 60s or to 70.

By the time Wrath came out, I had every kind of gear set for every spec, and I went cat form to level even though I hate melee dps.  At 78 LWs can craft a very nice set of blues for every spec a druid could want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leveling 1-70 as balance I have one word for you:  Ouch.  That’s how I did it, and if I had it to do over I would have gone cat and then switched when I got to high 60s or to 70.</p>
<p>By the time Wrath came out, I had every kind of gear set for every spec, and I went cat form to level even though I hate melee dps.  At 78 LWs can craft a very nice set of blues for every spec a druid could want.</p>
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		<title>By: Ming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am delighted to hear you enjoying your Horde alt. I am a diehard Hordie... on a predominantly Alliance server. Apparently the Alliance can&#039;t get the Achievement for winning Wintergrasp while having Tenacity on my server, since they never have Tenacity.

Also I die a little inside when I contemplate that all my favorite bloggers are Alliance. So it gladdens my heart to see people taking the first step toward the dark side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am delighted to hear you enjoying your Horde alt. I am a diehard Hordie&#8230; on a predominantly Alliance server. Apparently the Alliance can&#8217;t get the Achievement for winning Wintergrasp while having Tenacity on my server, since they never have Tenacity.</p>
<p>Also I die a little inside when I contemplate that all my favorite bloggers are Alliance. So it gladdens my heart to see people taking the first step toward the dark side!</p>
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