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		<title>By: Shelly</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19826</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:( i dont like the idea of troll druids at all. It may be because I have a troll rogue but the trolls just dont seem docile, or nature loving enough for a druid class.

as for tauren priests and paladins, bring them both on, i have been wishing for this for quite some time :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:( i dont like the idea of troll druids at all. It may be because I have a troll rogue but the trolls just dont seem docile, or nature loving enough for a druid class.</p>
<p>as for tauren priests and paladins, bring them both on, i have been wishing for this for quite some time :D</p>
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		<title>By: ROb</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19821</link>
		<dc:creator>ROb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinda agree with Sedge.  It&#039;s nice that they are revamping things like MC, but its not what I am expecting from a major expansion.  I guess I&#039;m just tired of the game, i am not sure i want to level a character, not to 60, to 70, or to 80, but to 85 or 90 (i think the new level cap will be 90).  All those things that were &#039;leaked&#039; are nice, but not must haves.    Although what would be?  I&#039;m not sure more of the same is going to keep people interested.  &quot;look here&#039;s a bunch of new dungeons, oh wait they are actually old dungeons&quot;. Ditto for raids.  I like this idea, but its not new.  If they really expanded their raids to more than two per expansion it would be a good start (trial - i haven&#039;t even seen the 10/25 man yet, but come on, that&#039;s just not epic).  

BC was *so* much better.  We had the netherdrakes.  We had illidan.  We had skyguard, and ogrila.  We had a bunch of cool dungeons.  Sure the rep grinding sucked.  We had 1 large 10 man and two 25 man beginner raids, and a 25 man second tier raid, and another 25man third tier.  All in all we have 7 multi-boss raids and two single boss raids in BC.    Yeah i like doing everything on 10 man.  BUt I dont like the option of only naxx/ulduar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda agree with Sedge.  It&#8217;s nice that they are revamping things like MC, but its not what I am expecting from a major expansion.  I guess I&#8217;m just tired of the game, i am not sure i want to level a character, not to 60, to 70, or to 80, but to 85 or 90 (i think the new level cap will be 90).  All those things that were &#8216;leaked&#8217; are nice, but not must haves.    Although what would be?  I&#8217;m not sure more of the same is going to keep people interested.  &#8220;look here&#8217;s a bunch of new dungeons, oh wait they are actually old dungeons&#8221;. Ditto for raids.  I like this idea, but its not new.  If they really expanded their raids to more than two per expansion it would be a good start (trial &#8211; i haven&#8217;t even seen the 10/25 man yet, but come on, that&#8217;s just not epic).  </p>
<p>BC was *so* much better.  We had the netherdrakes.  We had illidan.  We had skyguard, and ogrila.  We had a bunch of cool dungeons.  Sure the rep grinding sucked.  We had 1 large 10 man and two 25 man beginner raids, and a 25 man second tier raid, and another 25man third tier.  All in all we have 7 multi-boss raids and two single boss raids in BC.    Yeah i like doing everything on 10 man.  BUt I dont like the option of only naxx/ulduar.</p>
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		<title>By: Firecroch</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19803</link>
		<dc:creator>Firecroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the revamp is great and phasing will go a long way to replayability for the old zones.  My only concern is with the phasing portion that if you want to help someone or you are dual boxing an alt then you are kinda screwed if you get phased and your lowbie doesn&#039;t.  That will be really horrible if you get phased as you AoE grind a big group for your lowbie friend or you want to farm a non phased area.  They would have to make new phased zones in the old world that the lowbies couldnt get to or it will cause lots of nightmares.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the revamp is great and phasing will go a long way to replayability for the old zones.  My only concern is with the phasing portion that if you want to help someone or you are dual boxing an alt then you are kinda screwed if you get phased and your lowbie doesn&#8217;t.  That will be really horrible if you get phased as you AoE grind a big group for your lowbie friend or you want to farm a non phased area.  They would have to make new phased zones in the old world that the lowbies couldnt get to or it will cause lots of nightmares.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonstalker</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19801</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonstalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But what happens to all that stellar Barrens chat??

Seriously, though. If they introduce phased areas, power leveling a lower toon goes by the wayside (How many of us did the beginning Argent Crusade quests and then came back to show a friend the ropes and couldn&#039;t see them?) Revitalizing the old content is great. And if I&#039;m nostalgic, leveling an alt will solve that.

I&#039;m not that into the lore stuff but am kinda sad/jealous/protective that other races can be druids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what happens to all that stellar Barrens chat??</p>
<p>Seriously, though. If they introduce phased areas, power leveling a lower toon goes by the wayside (How many of us did the beginning Argent Crusade quests and then came back to show a friend the ropes and couldn&#8217;t see them?) Revitalizing the old content is great. And if I&#8217;m nostalgic, leveling an alt will solve that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not that into the lore stuff but am kinda sad/jealous/protective that other races can be druids.</p>
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		<title>By: Garinow</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19800</link>
		<dc:creator>Garinow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although the task of revamping the Old World will be an ambitious undertaking, I think it is also a necessary one to facilitate easier development down the road.  For this reason I tend to believe that at this point Blizzard would stop and address this hanging issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the task of revamping the Old World will be an ambitious undertaking, I think it is also a necessary one to facilitate easier development down the road.  For this reason I tend to believe that at this point Blizzard would stop and address this hanging issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Fnord</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19799</link>
		<dc:creator>Fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t buy it, especially this early in the cycle.  Alpha leaks we&#039;ve seen, but this before it&#039;s even announced...

Anybody remember the burning crusade &quot;leak&quot;: http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=55141? It got a few things right, but many things (important things) dead wrong. 
Remember the fake patch notes that have popped up a few times?

Heck, we don&#039;t even know that the Cataclysm trademark is for the next expansion (or even that there will be a next expansion, for that matter), instead of the new MMO Kaplan announced.

Plus, even if it is a real leak, at this stage in development, all but the most general items are subject to change before it&#039;s even announced, much less released.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy it, especially this early in the cycle.  Alpha leaks we&#8217;ve seen, but this before it&#8217;s even announced&#8230;</p>
<p>Anybody remember the burning crusade &#8220;leak&#8221;: <a href="http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=55141" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=55141</a>? It got a few things right, but many things (important things) dead wrong.<br />
Remember the fake patch notes that have popped up a few times?</p>
<p>Heck, we don&#8217;t even know that the Cataclysm trademark is for the next expansion (or even that there will be a next expansion, for that matter), instead of the new MMO Kaplan announced.</p>
<p>Plus, even if it is a real leak, at this stage in development, all but the most general items are subject to change before it&#8217;s even announced, much less released.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Poster</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19798</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have got to say that revamping old content for higher level is great. Onyxia &amp; Ragnaros are supposed to be these huge badass threats, aren’t they?&quot;

Yeah they WERE badass threats. We killed them.

Mind you I have no problem with what they are doing with Onyxia. 3.2.2 is not a major content patch so the update to Onyxia is a complete bonus. I believe I would be less happy with an expansion that reintroduced a bunch of old raids. But if they were to handle all of the old bosses the same way, toss them in in mini patches, and not make them the focus of an expansion I think I would be ok. Though the amount of trash in the old raids...suuuuuuuuuuuucks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have got to say that revamping old content for higher level is great. Onyxia &amp; Ragnaros are supposed to be these huge badass threats, aren’t they?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah they WERE badass threats. We killed them.</p>
<p>Mind you I have no problem with what they are doing with Onyxia. 3.2.2 is not a major content patch so the update to Onyxia is a complete bonus. I believe I would be less happy with an expansion that reintroduced a bunch of old raids. But if they were to handle all of the old bosses the same way, toss them in in mini patches, and not make them the focus of an expansion I think I would be ok. Though the amount of trash in the old raids&#8230;suuuuuuuuuuuucks</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19796</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have got to say that revamping old content for higher level is great.  Onyxia &amp; Ragnaros are supposed to be these huge badass threats, aren&#039;t they?  Well, not in their current state.  As neat as it might be to get achievements, it is even better that the game experience be awesome, IMO.  Personally, I&#039;d like to see the old Onyxia quest chain back in BRD . . . or something like it anyway.  I really love the concept that BRD was . . . this beautiful sprawling Dungeon that players had reason to return to frequently.  Not just a gear grind . . . but also faction rewards, profession advancement, sheer entertainment!  Is there anything like that in Outland or Northrend?  Did dailies replace Blackrock Depths?

Revamping them is especially welcome from the perspective of a relatively new player.  I mean, we have quest chains that lead up to Molten Core and Blackwing Lair . . . and then go nowhere because we can&#039;t get a group together to do them.  Or at least, the chains go nowhere until we&#039;re a high enough level that finishing them is trivial.  Revamping them gives a sense of engagement while levelling pre-60.

The class changes are, for the most part, awesome.  I mean, it can&#039;t possibly make sense that every Blood Elf fighter-type is a Champion of the Light, Trolls are as bound to nature as Night Elves &amp; Tauren, and finally . . . Finally! . . . we can make an all gnome party!  The only addition that stumps me is Night Elf Mage.  Didn&#039;t we swear that off?  I mean, they must be some sort of societal dregs, right?  Maybe analogous to Warlocks among Humans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have got to say that revamping old content for higher level is great.  Onyxia &amp; Ragnaros are supposed to be these huge badass threats, aren&#8217;t they?  Well, not in their current state.  As neat as it might be to get achievements, it is even better that the game experience be awesome, IMO.  Personally, I&#8217;d like to see the old Onyxia quest chain back in BRD . . . or something like it anyway.  I really love the concept that BRD was . . . this beautiful sprawling Dungeon that players had reason to return to frequently.  Not just a gear grind . . . but also faction rewards, profession advancement, sheer entertainment!  Is there anything like that in Outland or Northrend?  Did dailies replace Blackrock Depths?</p>
<p>Revamping them is especially welcome from the perspective of a relatively new player.  I mean, we have quest chains that lead up to Molten Core and Blackwing Lair . . . and then go nowhere because we can&#8217;t get a group together to do them.  Or at least, the chains go nowhere until we&#8217;re a high enough level that finishing them is trivial.  Revamping them gives a sense of engagement while levelling pre-60.</p>
<p>The class changes are, for the most part, awesome.  I mean, it can&#8217;t possibly make sense that every Blood Elf fighter-type is a Champion of the Light, Trolls are as bound to nature as Night Elves &amp; Tauren, and finally . . . Finally! . . . we can make an all gnome party!  The only addition that stumps me is Night Elf Mage.  Didn&#8217;t we swear that off?  I mean, they must be some sort of societal dregs, right?  Maybe analogous to Warlocks among Humans?</p>
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		<title>By: HokieFred</title>
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		<dc:creator>HokieFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having new races that can be druids makes sense now.  The bear and cat forms were just updated, but maybe that&#039;s because Blizz was making new models for the new races.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having new races that can be druids makes sense now.  The bear and cat forms were just updated, but maybe that&#8217;s because Blizz was making new models for the new races.</p>
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		<title>By: Sedgewick</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/08/14/speculation-on-cataclysm/comment-page-1/#comment-19787</link>
		<dc:creator>Sedgewick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have to say, if this is what they do intend, I feel confident that the concerns over ‘no new content, boring old rehash of existing content’ can be countered with logic and reason.&quot;

Whereas I agree with you, I&#039;m not so sure that &quot;Logic and Reason&quot; sell expansions.  There are a lot of people who do not want to shell out another $40 or so just so they can cruise around Azeroth once more.  I feel that although this &quot;expansion&quot; offers a lot of nice little gimmicks and perks, it&#039;s not quite full expansion material.  It seems to only be .25 or .50 of what I&#039;d expect, I mean, look at TBC or WotLK...

-Sedge
.-= Sedgewick&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/officerchat/~3/R4p-mN78SUk/ask-sedge-vol-2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ask Sedge: Vol 2&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have to say, if this is what they do intend, I feel confident that the concerns over ‘no new content, boring old rehash of existing content’ can be countered with logic and reason.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whereas I agree with you, I&#8217;m not so sure that &#8220;Logic and Reason&#8221; sell expansions.  There are a lot of people who do not want to shell out another $40 or so just so they can cruise around Azeroth once more.  I feel that although this &#8220;expansion&#8221; offers a lot of nice little gimmicks and perks, it&#8217;s not quite full expansion material.  It seems to only be .25 or .50 of what I&#8217;d expect, I mean, look at TBC or WotLK&#8230;</p>
<p>-Sedge<br />
.-= Sedgewick&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/officerchat/~3/R4p-mN78SUk/ask-sedge-vol-2" rel="nofollow">Ask Sedge: Vol 2</a> =-.</p>
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