Comments on: Patch 3.3 Bear Gear – Consumables

By: Sendahl

Sendahl — Tue, 11 May 2010 11:51:00 +0000

I find the Indestructable Potion a nice extra “amagad” button; it helps the healers towards the end of a fight, when mana resources are getting low and damage is increasing – Festergut springs to mind.

I was hoping this topic would be revisited again, always good to hear options. I had never thought about using Gurus Elixir before!

By: PapaRobert

PapaRobert — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:59:43 +0000

How about the flask of chromatic wonder?
+18 to all stats is a really nice boost,
but what I’m wondering is how much LESS damage do you receive due to the 35 resistance thats added to all forms of magic?
With bears sucking at magic avoidance wouldn’t this help out a lot?
The fact that you don’t have to take a new flask every time you wipe is great too.

By: Aluminum

Aluminum — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:30:31 +0000

So, coming back to this..
I tested out a few alternatives.
I usually use Elixir of protection & Guru/Agility
Even in ICC progression.
Yes it may be more expensive if we wipe alot. however I have come to find myself sitting at close to 40K unbuffed HP
I felt (and still feel after trying a few other combos) that the 1300HP from the flask is not a huge increase for me (key word “me”)
I would much rather the benfits of 10 agility,10 strength, etc from the guru, and the 800 armor from the protection.
Actaully, I even like the idea of using a hit or xpertise elixir for more threat/dmg
I am in no way a numbers guy, and I dont have any calcualtions to back up my statement.
Lets just call it a gut feeling, and my gut feels better in my elixirs than the flask.
If I am incredibly wrong, can someone confirm this?

By: Caelean

Caelean — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:09 +0000

Yeah, Rawr keeps recommending Elixir of Protection as my guardian potion.

But either I’m content where we wipe (mostly not due to my gear), in which case I’d rather have the flask.

Or we’re on content where the Flask is “good enough”.

By: Javan

Javan — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:16:36 +0000

Defense Rating never “caps”. You still get benefits from Defense Rating even if you are already uncrittable. Specifically, you get extra Dodge and Miss. Don’t enchant / gem for it, but don’t think of it as “wasted”.

By: Kupuka

Kupuka — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:14:28 +0000

Why would you need mighty defense if you have 3/3 Survival of the fittest?

By: Aluminum

Aluminum — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:36:20 +0000

What aboout Elixir of Protection? (+800 armor)
take that with a guru or an agility.
Is it worth it? I see the armor being more useful for a bear then the defence. But I could be wrong.

By: Kzanol

Kzanol — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:48:18 +0000

ATM I’m not sure if 40Agi/40Sta is superior to 40Exp/40Sta. I really don’t know.
If you’re below 26 Expertise, I’d take the meat not the fish. Beyond 26 Exp (Dodge cap for ExP) 40 Exp is still really challenging, although I’m fish eater. ;)
My guess is it depends on fight mechanics and equipment, but what in WoW doesn’t? ^^ 40 exp is roughly 1,25% less parry (and dodge if below 26). Parried attacks reset bosses’ swing timer AFAIK, making next attack come faster. I don’t like hard hitting bosses pushing a 2nd attack faster than healers reaction time.

By: Javan

Javan — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:20:48 +0000

Indestructible Potions are also nice, IMO, since they have a longish duration for a potion. Pop it before the fight starts and it’ll still be active when the potion cooldown fades, letting you use a healing potion during the fight if you need.

By: Gerronimo

Gerronimo — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:20:01 +0000

It’s not purely a tanking flask but I will opt for Flask of Endless Rage at times. It’s a good threat boost when you have content that requires increased DPS to get through. Otherwise I will use Guru’s Elixir and Elixir of Mighty Defense. I like the additional stamina + agility over the pure agility in Guru’s. And taking less damage over time is better than the health + regen of Mighty Fortitude. But yes all of these are great options, and if you have them they are better than not using anything at all! I try to keep these up even when PUG-ging. Set the example! :)