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		<title>By: Lahamu</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/12/30/welcome-to-the-new-ninja-order/comment-page-2/#comment-25166</link>
		<dc:creator>Lahamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My tolerance for any kind of jerk-ish behaviour has been lowered sooooo much lately. As tank – I have a 3 second queue.&quot;

The post above by Daniel had me confused. I was pretty certain a person could quit a group at any time and had intended to point this out. Then I realized there is a reason to coerce the group into kicking: avoidance of the deserter debuff. At this point I have to seriously wonder if the poster in question was kidding. Because if not, that is about the most shameful behavior a tank could exhibit. 

To extort a party into saving you 10 minutes of waiting time by threatening to withhold the tanking you committed to simply boggles my mind. That the excuse for this behavior is something so frail as the mere possibility of being denied a roll on 2 pieces of gear and a frost orb just compounds how terrible this is. I really do hope it was meant as some form of irony. Otherwise, good sir, might you consider looking into a mirror before speaking of a lack of tolerance for jerk-ish behavior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My tolerance for any kind of jerk-ish behaviour has been lowered sooooo much lately. As tank – I have a 3 second queue.&#8221;</p>
<p>The post above by Daniel had me confused. I was pretty certain a person could quit a group at any time and had intended to point this out. Then I realized there is a reason to coerce the group into kicking: avoidance of the deserter debuff. At this point I have to seriously wonder if the poster in question was kidding. Because if not, that is about the most shameful behavior a tank could exhibit. </p>
<p>To extort a party into saving you 10 minutes of waiting time by threatening to withhold the tanking you committed to simply boggles my mind. That the excuse for this behavior is something so frail as the mere possibility of being denied a roll on 2 pieces of gear and a frost orb just compounds how terrible this is. I really do hope it was meant as some form of irony. Otherwise, good sir, might you consider looking into a mirror before speaking of a lack of tolerance for jerk-ish behavior?</p>
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		<title>By: Adonik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love posts like this.  It may sound mean but these stories make me laugh, mostly since they let me know I&#039;m not alone in a game with too many Dbags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love posts like this.  It may sound mean but these stories make me laugh, mostly since they let me know I&#8217;m not alone in a game with too many Dbags.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaethir</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/12/30/welcome-to-the-new-ninja-order/comment-page-2/#comment-25130</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaethir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually did have my first real ninja-looting experience the other night.

ToC random group... plowed through, quick and clean... good run.

and then DK needs all 3 items, including the frozen orb, and leaves.  classy.
.-= Kaethir&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://abearinthetrees.blogspot.com/2010/01/lifes-little-joys.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Life&#039;s Little Joys&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did have my first real ninja-looting experience the other night.</p>
<p>ToC random group&#8230; plowed through, quick and clean&#8230; good run.</p>
<p>and then DK needs all 3 items, including the frozen orb, and leaves.  classy.<br />
.-= Kaethir&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://abearinthetrees.blogspot.com/2010/01/lifes-little-joys.html" rel="nofollow">Life&#8217;s Little Joys</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Javan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I&#039;d have never even considered a tactic like this and am glad that server isn&#039;t in my battlegroup...

The worst I&#039;ve seen is Mute Group - for 5 groups in a row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I&#8217;d have never even considered a tactic like this and am glad that server isn&#8217;t in my battlegroup&#8230;</p>
<p>The worst I&#8217;ve seen is Mute Group &#8211; for 5 groups in a row.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vacuous, your comment about &quot;Americas Dumbest Criminals&quot; really does sum it up. For the people who do it, and for the people who comment that are proud of it, both.

What cracks me up the most is that when they boast about these things, it&#039;s always in terms of being overjoyed at having made people angry or upset or gotten a rise out of people.

Doesn&#039;t that just show how completely clueless these idiots are? That they really think that anyone has hurt feelings or got angry over this for more than two seconds? That some got, as they like to put it, &#039;butthurt&quot;, lol.

They just don&#039;t get it... we share these stories on our blogs, first as a warning that goofy and pluto got another prize-winning scheme to beware of, and second, to laugh at them. 

Just as you hear about people that set themselves on fire and post the video on youtube in a desperate bid for attention, you point, and laugh, and marvel that anyone is truly that pathetic and in need of attention that they would be THAT lame. 

I think it&#039;s hilarious. Not only that they came up with the idea, but that they&#039;ve got two or three friends who are right in tune with &#039;em.

And then they come here and think we&#039;ve invested actual anger at their antics! Good lord, that&#039;s the part that cracks me up the most. 

I picture them sitting there in vent, talking about how high they are, and what they shoplifted from the supermarket that day, and telling themselves about the awesome time they totally ripped that one dude that one time, man, like, that was priceless, man, totally. People actually heard of us, man, we&#039;re like, famous and shit. Pass the joint.

Ah hahahahahahahah! 

Oh lord, and Dechion was telling me the other day, he suggested this one guy that kept commenting on his blog post should start his own blog, and the guy replies that he won&#039;t write a blog because his e-peen doesn&#039;t need to be stroked. While he&#039;s stroking his epeen in Dech&#039;s comments. Damn, man, that&#039;s so stupid that&#039;s deep!

That just cracks me up, too, when someone thinks they&#039;re being witty and just blows it all over themselves. That telling transference of motives, which show you exactly why the guy writes anything... to stroke his epeen. He can&#039;t conceive, personally, of another reason to write. Like, maybe, to share knowledge. Or just for the pure joy of writing, and playing with words. Or to learn how to better express himself. Or to have fun chatting with friends.

Nope, he only thinks of writing in terms of having people look at him with awe at his intelligence... an intelligence that really wasn&#039;t there, in my opinion. Flowery language does not make a keen mind, it just shows that the guy can find thesaurus.com and a spell checker.

He only writes to stroke his own epeen, and his comment showed he thinks that of course that&#039;s why everyone ELSE writes... a fine example of someone that still thinks that what they think in their head is exactly how everyone else thinks, they just pretend different. LOL. 

Hey, our purpose was served. People have been warned, and we had fun pointing at idiots and laughing at them.

If the idiots take this as praise... despite what they think, this does not lessen the fact that we&#039;re laughing at them. It just makes us laugh MORE. 

I do know that, in like junior high school, there were kids that would act like dicks, and if you laughed at them, they&#039;d just get furious, and would respond by acting like that&#039;s what they really wanted all the time, with some half assed idea that this stunning reverse psychology would make people angry again for doing what they wanted. 

Did anyone ever actually see that work? All I remember was laughing in their face. That kind of shit has always served to cheer me up immensely. 

I&#039;m sad that this exploit currently works, and I hope that Myrx&#039;s suggestions for boss loot get implemented, but long after the problem gets resolved, we&#039;ll still be able to look back on those idiots, and laugh. 

That&#039;s truly priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacuous, your comment about &#8220;Americas Dumbest Criminals&#8221; really does sum it up. For the people who do it, and for the people who comment that are proud of it, both.</p>
<p>What cracks me up the most is that when they boast about these things, it&#8217;s always in terms of being overjoyed at having made people angry or upset or gotten a rise out of people.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that just show how completely clueless these idiots are? That they really think that anyone has hurt feelings or got angry over this for more than two seconds? That some got, as they like to put it, &#8216;butthurt&#8221;, lol.</p>
<p>They just don&#8217;t get it&#8230; we share these stories on our blogs, first as a warning that goofy and pluto got another prize-winning scheme to beware of, and second, to laugh at them. </p>
<p>Just as you hear about people that set themselves on fire and post the video on youtube in a desperate bid for attention, you point, and laugh, and marvel that anyone is truly that pathetic and in need of attention that they would be THAT lame. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s hilarious. Not only that they came up with the idea, but that they&#8217;ve got two or three friends who are right in tune with &#8216;em.</p>
<p>And then they come here and think we&#8217;ve invested actual anger at their antics! Good lord, that&#8217;s the part that cracks me up the most. </p>
<p>I picture them sitting there in vent, talking about how high they are, and what they shoplifted from the supermarket that day, and telling themselves about the awesome time they totally ripped that one dude that one time, man, like, that was priceless, man, totally. People actually heard of us, man, we&#8217;re like, famous and shit. Pass the joint.</p>
<p>Ah hahahahahahahah! </p>
<p>Oh lord, and Dechion was telling me the other day, he suggested this one guy that kept commenting on his blog post should start his own blog, and the guy replies that he won&#8217;t write a blog because his e-peen doesn&#8217;t need to be stroked. While he&#8217;s stroking his epeen in Dech&#8217;s comments. Damn, man, that&#8217;s so stupid that&#8217;s deep!</p>
<p>That just cracks me up, too, when someone thinks they&#8217;re being witty and just blows it all over themselves. That telling transference of motives, which show you exactly why the guy writes anything&#8230; to stroke his epeen. He can&#8217;t conceive, personally, of another reason to write. Like, maybe, to share knowledge. Or just for the pure joy of writing, and playing with words. Or to learn how to better express himself. Or to have fun chatting with friends.</p>
<p>Nope, he only thinks of writing in terms of having people look at him with awe at his intelligence&#8230; an intelligence that really wasn&#8217;t there, in my opinion. Flowery language does not make a keen mind, it just shows that the guy can find thesaurus.com and a spell checker.</p>
<p>He only writes to stroke his own epeen, and his comment showed he thinks that of course that&#8217;s why everyone ELSE writes&#8230; a fine example of someone that still thinks that what they think in their head is exactly how everyone else thinks, they just pretend different. LOL. </p>
<p>Hey, our purpose was served. People have been warned, and we had fun pointing at idiots and laughing at them.</p>
<p>If the idiots take this as praise&#8230; despite what they think, this does not lessen the fact that we&#8217;re laughing at them. It just makes us laugh MORE. </p>
<p>I do know that, in like junior high school, there were kids that would act like dicks, and if you laughed at them, they&#8217;d just get furious, and would respond by acting like that&#8217;s what they really wanted all the time, with some half assed idea that this stunning reverse psychology would make people angry again for doing what they wanted. </p>
<p>Did anyone ever actually see that work? All I remember was laughing in their face. That kind of shit has always served to cheer me up immensely. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sad that this exploit currently works, and I hope that Myrx&#8217;s suggestions for boss loot get implemented, but long after the problem gets resolved, we&#8217;ll still be able to look back on those idiots, and laugh. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s truly priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Vacuous</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/12/30/welcome-to-the-new-ninja-order/comment-page-1/#comment-25050</link>
		<dc:creator>Vacuous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to see the response to Myrx&#039;s post on the Dethecus forums.

Most server&#039;s forum response would be something like, &quot;yeah, they&#039;re idiots . . . but they&#039;re our idiots . . . so GTFO.&quot;

However, on Dethecus, it is pretty much as Satiel depicts it: two pages of derisive laughter and &quot;greatest idea evah!&quot; Someone even opined that getting a mention on a &quot;fairly well-known blog&quot; (srry BBB) was fame that was truly &quot;priceless.&quot;

Which is all quite curious, because, as criminal capers go, this group&#039;s ninja is pretty small potatoes. They group up to rip some poor unsuspecting victim out of . . . a 20% chance at an epic they were going to disenchant anyway? What&#039;s 20% of an abyss crystal worth, anyway? Not exactly Prof. Moriarity material--more like the kind of criminality one sees on &quot;America&#039;s Dumbest Criminals.&quot; But, on shows like that, small time criminals often allow their faces to be shown because hey! We&#039;re famous now! (Yes, millions of people tune into laugh at you--grats!)

Apparently, on Dethecus anyway, small-time grifting is considered a high art form. Impressive. Well, if that&#039;s all you have going for you, go for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see the response to Myrx&#8217;s post on the Dethecus forums.</p>
<p>Most server&#8217;s forum response would be something like, &#8220;yeah, they&#8217;re idiots . . . but they&#8217;re our idiots . . . so GTFO.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, on Dethecus, it is pretty much as Satiel depicts it: two pages of derisive laughter and &#8220;greatest idea evah!&#8221; Someone even opined that getting a mention on a &#8220;fairly well-known blog&#8221; (srry BBB) was fame that was truly &#8220;priceless.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is all quite curious, because, as criminal capers go, this group&#8217;s ninja is pretty small potatoes. They group up to rip some poor unsuspecting victim out of . . . a 20% chance at an epic they were going to disenchant anyway? What&#8217;s 20% of an abyss crystal worth, anyway? Not exactly Prof. Moriarity material&#8211;more like the kind of criminality one sees on &#8220;America&#8217;s Dumbest Criminals.&#8221; But, on shows like that, small time criminals often allow their faces to be shown because hey! We&#8217;re famous now! (Yes, millions of people tune into laugh at you&#8211;grats!)</p>
<p>Apparently, on Dethecus anyway, small-time grifting is considered a high art form. Impressive. Well, if that&#8217;s all you have going for you, go for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/12/30/welcome-to-the-new-ninja-order/comment-page-1/#comment-25049</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this comment by James on the original post: 
It gets even worse the more you think about it.

You: A priest.
Them: 2 DK.s, a Rogue and a Paladin

Assuming you needed upgrades from HToC, what could you have possibly rolled on that they would need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this comment by James on the original post:<br />
It gets even worse the more you think about it.</p>
<p>You: A priest.<br />
Them: 2 DK.s, a Rogue and a Paladin</p>
<p>Assuming you needed upgrades from HToC, what could you have possibly rolled on that they would need?</p>
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		<title>By: Kauket</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2009/12/30/welcome-to-the-new-ninja-order/comment-page-1/#comment-25043</link>
		<dc:creator>Kauket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish there were some way to do a global ignore by account, but if you missed the opportunity to right-click and select ignore on a jerk&#039;s name in chat, or if you want to add that person to the ignore lists of all your characters, the command is:

/ignore Name-Server</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish there were some way to do a global ignore by account, but if you missed the opportunity to right-click and select ignore on a jerk&#8217;s name in chat, or if you want to add that person to the ignore lists of all your characters, the command is:</p>
<p>/ignore Name-Server</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note:

Last night I queued as tank for random - and was put in a group with 4 people from the same server.  After the first pull, I simply typed into party chat: 

&quot;Sorry guys, I don&#039;t run when there is 3 or more from the same server.  Sorry if you really are nice guys - it just isn&#039;t worth my time (I&#039;ve dealt with too many asshats before you).  The old adage of &quot;fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me&quot;.  You can&#039;t kick me for 5 mins - so I will run until then.  Then please remove me when I zone out.  Thanks.&quot;

If I get any crap - I zone then and just hang out in Dal waiting for the 5 mins.  

My tolerance for any kind of jerk-ish behaviour has been lowered sooooo much lately.  As tank - I have a 3 second queue.  

Just my .02.  Hope it helps others.

-AckkHairBall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note:</p>
<p>Last night I queued as tank for random &#8211; and was put in a group with 4 people from the same server.  After the first pull, I simply typed into party chat: </p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry guys, I don&#8217;t run when there is 3 or more from the same server.  Sorry if you really are nice guys &#8211; it just isn&#8217;t worth my time (I&#8217;ve dealt with too many asshats before you).  The old adage of &#8220;fool me once, shame on you &#8211; fool me twice, shame on me&#8221;.  You can&#8217;t kick me for 5 mins &#8211; so I will run until then.  Then please remove me when I zone out.  Thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I get any crap &#8211; I zone then and just hang out in Dal waiting for the 5 mins.  </p>
<p>My tolerance for any kind of jerk-ish behaviour has been lowered sooooo much lately.  As tank &#8211; I have a 3 second queue.  </p>
<p>Just my .02.  Hope it helps others.</p>
<p>-AckkHairBall</p>
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		<title>By: Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this Skeptical guy... his only argument being that dechion probably sucked and he keeps repeating himself and denying any kind of judgement from dechion. that kinda jerk studies at university where he has learned that being sceptical is totally hip in science and prolly writes for republican news magazine from the poison he spills and for the stupidity of his &quot;arguments&quot; which are just tricks trying to make other people look bad and him good. i wished someone picked his comments apart for that guy felt so totally smart when all he was saying was &quot;shit happens&quot; and &quot;you suck&quot; with decent vocabulary. but comments are closed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this Skeptical guy&#8230; his only argument being that dechion probably sucked and he keeps repeating himself and denying any kind of judgement from dechion. that kinda jerk studies at university where he has learned that being sceptical is totally hip in science and prolly writes for republican news magazine from the poison he spills and for the stupidity of his &#8220;arguments&#8221; which are just tricks trying to make other people look bad and him good. i wished someone picked his comments apart for that guy felt so totally smart when all he was saying was &#8220;shit happens&#8221; and &#8220;you suck&#8221; with decent vocabulary. but comments are closed&#8230;</p>
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