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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Shiftingbull</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26890</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiftingbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you took a bio break without a single wipe?

ewww....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you took a bio break without a single wipe?</p>
<p>ewww&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Twice</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26195</link>
		<dc:creator>Twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

A very belated grats! to Kaelynn and the rest of the Devils.</description>
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<p>A very belated grats! to Kaelynn and the rest of the Devils.</p>
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		<title>By: Firecroch</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26066</link>
		<dc:creator>Firecroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illidari Council can still beat down groups if they don&#039;t know what they are doing.  I ran on my Holy Priest a couple weeks ago and we had 21 ppl in the raid.  We had a lot of problems because ppl didn&#039;t seem to understand the fights and thought they could do whatever because it was lvl 70 content.  By the time we got to Illidari Council we just kept wiping and couldn&#039;t seem to get it down.  As of now I stil don&#039;t have the BT completion on my main...ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illidari Council can still beat down groups if they don&#8217;t know what they are doing.  I ran on my Holy Priest a couple weeks ago and we had 21 ppl in the raid.  We had a lot of problems because ppl didn&#8217;t seem to understand the fights and thought they could do whatever because it was lvl 70 content.  By the time we got to Illidari Council we just kept wiping and couldn&#8217;t seem to get it down.  As of now I stil don&#8217;t have the BT completion on my main&#8230;ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaethir</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26051</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaethir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guild pulled together a BT run a couple months ago...

i would encourage everybody who gets the opportunity to try to run old content, it&#039;s fun and different than the run of the mill stuff to do...  

and if you have few enough people, it can still be REALLY hard :)
.-= Kaethir&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://abearinthetrees.blogspot.com/2010/01/icecrown-ramblings-part-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Icecrown Ramblings, Part 2&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guild pulled together a BT run a couple months ago&#8230;</p>
<p>i would encourage everybody who gets the opportunity to try to run old content, it&#8217;s fun and different than the run of the mill stuff to do&#8230;  </p>
<p>and if you have few enough people, it can still be REALLY hard :)<br />
.-= Kaethir&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://abearinthetrees.blogspot.com/2010/01/icecrown-ramblings-part-2.html" rel="nofollow">Icecrown Ramblings, Part 2</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26019</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BBB,

Long time reader, first time commenter, and I have to preface this by thanking you for all the info I&#039;ve gleaned from your articles! :)

I have to say that, and this also relates to your recent article entitled &quot;New project: Tanking through the levels,&quot; this sounds like so much fun. I leveled my druid to 80 with very few dungeons, as kitty, and I started playing WoW when TBC came out, so I was generally late to the party. As such, I have gone back and hit up a few oldies, such as Kara with guildies (we call them gold runs) and Stratholme by myself. However, the new dungeon finder provides many opportunities for exploring old content, and fun runs are another great way to both revisit old haunts and explore. 

With this in mind, I recently started a new druid (although I had neither the desire nor the big bear balls to delete my old one!!) with three express purposes: 
1) see old instances and quest in areas I missed before, especially those that are slated to get major upheavals in Cataclysm,
2) level as balance spec, since that is almost totally different than how I play my main (kitty/bear), and
3) have fun!

Last night, I drew 2 Ragefire Chasm runs in a row, with the first featuring a bear tank who did a very nice job, and the second featuring a pally and a warrior (no weapon, btw) duking it out to see which could butcher their tanking duties worse... This morning, I had an eventful run through Wailing Caverns, also featuring a bear tank who did ok. It was a druid-fest, though. By the end of the run, after losing one druid healer for another (and with me healing some of it in the meantime), and losing our mage for a kitty, we had, yes, 4 druids and a rogue. Hilarious! Overall I was glad to see the old content, and it was interesting to see the group dynamics at a low level, where you have to use your head a little bit (it&#039;s certainly different than steamrolling through a PuG heroic everyday). 

I&#039;m excited about the prospect of running dungeons and raiding through Azeroth and Outland, and I&#039;m glad that you guys had so much fun with it. Keep sharing!
.-= Russ&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sunmurma.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/the-new-gear-is-definitely-working/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The new gear is definitely working&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BBB,</p>
<p>Long time reader, first time commenter, and I have to preface this by thanking you for all the info I&#8217;ve gleaned from your articles! :)</p>
<p>I have to say that, and this also relates to your recent article entitled &#8220;New project: Tanking through the levels,&#8221; this sounds like so much fun. I leveled my druid to 80 with very few dungeons, as kitty, and I started playing WoW when TBC came out, so I was generally late to the party. As such, I have gone back and hit up a few oldies, such as Kara with guildies (we call them gold runs) and Stratholme by myself. However, the new dungeon finder provides many opportunities for exploring old content, and fun runs are another great way to both revisit old haunts and explore. </p>
<p>With this in mind, I recently started a new druid (although I had neither the desire nor the big bear balls to delete my old one!!) with three express purposes:<br />
1) see old instances and quest in areas I missed before, especially those that are slated to get major upheavals in Cataclysm,<br />
2) level as balance spec, since that is almost totally different than how I play my main (kitty/bear), and<br />
3) have fun!</p>
<p>Last night, I drew 2 Ragefire Chasm runs in a row, with the first featuring a bear tank who did a very nice job, and the second featuring a pally and a warrior (no weapon, btw) duking it out to see which could butcher their tanking duties worse&#8230; This morning, I had an eventful run through Wailing Caverns, also featuring a bear tank who did ok. It was a druid-fest, though. By the end of the run, after losing one druid healer for another (and with me healing some of it in the meantime), and losing our mage for a kitty, we had, yes, 4 druids and a rogue. Hilarious! Overall I was glad to see the old content, and it was interesting to see the group dynamics at a low level, where you have to use your head a little bit (it&#8217;s certainly different than steamrolling through a PuG heroic everyday). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited about the prospect of running dungeons and raiding through Azeroth and Outland, and I&#8217;m glad that you guys had so much fun with it. Keep sharing!<br />
.-= Russ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://sunmurma.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/the-new-gear-is-definitely-working/" rel="nofollow">The new gear is definitely working</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Taeraresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taeraresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We did an old-school run a few weeks ago, and four-manned a full clear of Kara. Great fun.</description>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/01/23/retro-raids-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-26016</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to do these quite often before the old core fell apart, and I&#039;ve heard a few folks kicking around the idea of reviving this tradition now that we seem to have a new one.  They were crazy fun.

Except Sunwell.  We learned that that place is still more than capable of kicking the asses of raiders who show up expecting to faceroll it.
.-= LabRat&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://paladinpants.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/wtb-dps/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WTB DPS&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to do these quite often before the old core fell apart, and I&#8217;ve heard a few folks kicking around the idea of reviving this tradition now that we seem to have a new one.  They were crazy fun.</p>
<p>Except Sunwell.  We learned that that place is still more than capable of kicking the asses of raiders who show up expecting to faceroll it.<br />
.-= LabRat&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://paladinpants.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/wtb-dps/" rel="nofollow">WTB DPS</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Inman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Inman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back does sound like it would be fun.  Nice to see a glaive drop.
.-= Brian Inman&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wasdstomp.com/2010/01/are-addons-getting-elitist-in-mmorpgs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are Addons getting Elitist in MMORPG&#039;s?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back does sound like it would be fun.  Nice to see a glaive drop.<br />
.-= Brian Inman&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.wasdstomp.com/2010/01/are-addons-getting-elitist-in-mmorpgs.html" rel="nofollow">Are Addons getting Elitist in MMORPG&#8217;s?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomeaggedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomeaggedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That quiet yearning I have had for a while has now been turned into a burning passion. I&#039;m over the emblem runs and I haven&#039;t the overwhelming desire to do the latest raids. I see requests for bodies in LFG for the old raids quite often. 

Time to fill my Looking for Raid interface with &quot;old world&quot; raids and have some fun. 

Thanks for stoking the dire in the belly of this Fire Mage
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/01/22/i-love-criticalqq-pvp-for-fire-mages/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Love CriticalQQ: PvP for Fire Mages!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That quiet yearning I have had for a while has now been turned into a burning passion. I&#8217;m over the emblem runs and I haven&#8217;t the overwhelming desire to do the latest raids. I see requests for bodies in LFG for the old raids quite often. </p>
<p>Time to fill my Looking for Raid interface with &#8220;old world&#8221; raids and have some fun. </p>
<p>Thanks for stoking the dire in the belly of this Fire Mage<br />
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/01/22/i-love-criticalqq-pvp-for-fire-mages/" rel="nofollow">I Love CriticalQQ: PvP for Fire Mages!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow Bear posted screenshots! It was awesome seeing that place, I&#039;d always kind of wanted to hear &quot;YOU ARE NOT PREPARED&quot; in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow Bear posted screenshots! It was awesome seeing that place, I&#8217;d always kind of wanted to hear &#8220;YOU ARE NOT PREPARED&#8221; in person.</p>
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