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		<title>By: Katlina</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-36016</link>
		<dc:creator>Katlina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 07:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. I felt exactly the same way about the airstrip and all sorts of seemingly inaccesible areas of WOW.  I wanted to find a way to get there and explore it, which was what the whole game is also about.   So its very bizarre idea that people would get banned for fully exploiting the abilities of their toons to explore, which after all, is one of the goals of the game.   I enjoy end game raiding but I still say nothing beat the excitement when I first started the game and every area was new and I wasn&#039;t sure what monsters were ahead and what the new locations would look like.  Now the geography is so familiar I am ready for a change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I felt exactly the same way about the airstrip and all sorts of seemingly inaccesible areas of WOW.  I wanted to find a way to get there and explore it, which was what the whole game is also about.   So its very bizarre idea that people would get banned for fully exploiting the abilities of their toons to explore, which after all, is one of the goals of the game.   I enjoy end game raiding but I still say nothing beat the excitement when I first started the game and every area was new and I wasn&#8217;t sure what monsters were ahead and what the new locations would look like.  Now the geography is so familiar I am ready for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Marodo</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-31571</link>
		<dc:creator>Marodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How and btw, you can still get to the air strip with some noggenfogger and a 100% mount. Just did it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How and btw, you can still get to the air strip with some noggenfogger and a 100% mount. Just did it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marodo</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-31569</link>
		<dc:creator>Marodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dancing troll village!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Akkivvitt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-28177</link>
		<dc:creator>Akkivvitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stand by the grey stone as the thrush knocks, and the last light of the setting sun will shine upon the keyhole...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stand by the grey stone as the thrush knocks, and the last light of the setting sun will shine upon the keyhole&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hierakles</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-28152</link>
		<dc:creator>Hierakles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quoted from the Ironforge page on Wowwiki: &quot;Ironforge is structurally a giant circle of sections, it also contains several &quot;depth&quot; levels (at least eight, though they are not accessible in game). The accessible portions of Ironforge appear to be located on the 5th level, the &quot;fifth depth&quot; of the city.&quot;
Re the loss of Ironforge, I can&#039;t see it feasibly happening, either in game or by some theoretical assault. The only entrances are either through the Tram, guarded by the whole city of Stormwind, the front gates, MASSIVe slabs of stone. If someone manages to somehow come up through the lava or through the walls, there are 8 different levels, probably all with ways to seal off each in case of emergency. Of course, this is ignoring the fact that there are ~20,000 inhabitants in Ironforge, and your average dwarf is usually quite handy with an axe/pick. In the dires case, Stormwind is only a tram-ride away.
But of course everyone can ignore me, since I&#039;m a rather rabid dwarf fanboy =D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted from the Ironforge page on Wowwiki: &#8220;Ironforge is structurally a giant circle of sections, it also contains several &#8220;depth&#8221; levels (at least eight, though they are not accessible in game). The accessible portions of Ironforge appear to be located on the 5th level, the &#8220;fifth depth&#8221; of the city.&#8221;<br />
Re the loss of Ironforge, I can&#8217;t see it feasibly happening, either in game or by some theoretical assault. The only entrances are either through the Tram, guarded by the whole city of Stormwind, the front gates, MASSIVe slabs of stone. If someone manages to somehow come up through the lava or through the walls, there are 8 different levels, probably all with ways to seal off each in case of emergency. Of course, this is ignoring the fact that there are ~20,000 inhabitants in Ironforge, and your average dwarf is usually quite handy with an axe/pick. In the dires case, Stormwind is only a tram-ride away.<br />
But of course everyone can ignore me, since I&#8217;m a rather rabid dwarf fanboy =D</p>
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		<title>By: Kauket</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/02/22/the-retaking-of-ironforge/comment-page-1/#comment-27963</link>
		<dc:creator>Kauket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jealouspirate says: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;1) We know that there was an “Old Ironforge”. How about the dwarves try to expand, not outwards, but downwards? Driving deeper into the earth, perhaps for more resources or to fight forgotten evils in the bowels of the world. Instances, quests, etc.. all in the deep of the mountain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dwarves, delving too deep?  As dwarves are wont to do?

OMG Balrog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jealouspirate says: </p>
<blockquote><p>1) We know that there was an “Old Ironforge”. How about the dwarves try to expand, not outwards, but downwards? Driving deeper into the earth, perhaps for more resources or to fight forgotten evils in the bowels of the world. Instances, quests, etc.. all in the deep of the mountain.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dwarves, delving too deep?  As dwarves are wont to do?</p>
<p>OMG Balrog!</p>
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		<title>By: Kethup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kethup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The risk of getting banned makes it more fun imo, i loved exploring under stormwind on my mage, going up the the mountains and slowfalling to other places, i got to the lake in elwynn, and ive been to the airstrip. Sorry for exploring?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risk of getting banned makes it more fun imo, i loved exploring under stormwind on my mage, going up the the mountains and slowfalling to other places, i got to the lake in elwynn, and ive been to the airstrip. Sorry for exploring?</p>
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		<title>By: jealouspirate</title>
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		<dc:creator>jealouspirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While that sounds really cool, I love Ironforge too much to desire its destruction. Here are two suggestions I would make though, which you might find satisfactory: 

1) We know that there was an &quot;Old Ironforge&quot;. How about the dwarves try to expand, not outwards, but downwards? Driving deeper into the earth, perhaps for more resources or to fight forgotten evils in the bowels of the world. Instances, quests, etc.. all in the deep of the mountain. 

2) I don&#039;t want to neglect the airstrip! So, we know that the Wetlands will suffer some serious damage and the Twilight Cult will have a major base of operations nearby with the Grim Batol raid, home of Deathwing himself. With that area being so close to Ironforge, the airstrip could be a kind of staging ground for an assault on Grim Batol and the surrounding area. There could be bombing dailies using the planes that we&#039;ve seen for so long, or perhaps quests to fly in supplies to ground troops in the area. The whole place could be bustling with activity, a launching pad for a major Alliance offensive. 

I&#039;d be surprised if either of those actually happened, but it sure would make me happy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While that sounds really cool, I love Ironforge too much to desire its destruction. Here are two suggestions I would make though, which you might find satisfactory: </p>
<p>1) We know that there was an &#8220;Old Ironforge&#8221;. How about the dwarves try to expand, not outwards, but downwards? Driving deeper into the earth, perhaps for more resources or to fight forgotten evils in the bowels of the world. Instances, quests, etc.. all in the deep of the mountain. </p>
<p>2) I don&#8217;t want to neglect the airstrip! So, we know that the Wetlands will suffer some serious damage and the Twilight Cult will have a major base of operations nearby with the Grim Batol raid, home of Deathwing himself. With that area being so close to Ironforge, the airstrip could be a kind of staging ground for an assault on Grim Batol and the surrounding area. There could be bombing dailies using the planes that we&#8217;ve seen for so long, or perhaps quests to fly in supplies to ground troops in the area. The whole place could be bustling with activity, a launching pad for a major Alliance offensive. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if either of those actually happened, but it sure would make me happy!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must admit, having Ironforge as a raid would be pretty awesome really, I&#039;ve always liked the Blackrock depths instance, due to its immense size.  It&#039;s a good idea but alas I doubt they would do something like that for Cataclysm. :(
.-= David&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mmorpgguide.co.uk/twos-company-levelling-a-hunter-alt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two’s Company – levelling a hunter alt&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit, having Ironforge as a raid would be pretty awesome really, I&#8217;ve always liked the Blackrock depths instance, due to its immense size.  It&#8217;s a good idea but alas I doubt they would do something like that for Cataclysm. :(<br />
.-= David&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.mmorpgguide.co.uk/twos-company-levelling-a-hunter-alt" rel="nofollow">Two’s Company – levelling a hunter alt</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kayeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kayeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me, it was spending hours in Wintergrasp and Felwood trying to find SOME way to Hyjal!  After all, my main is an NE druid, she SHOULD be able to visit Nordrassil if she wants!  There is even a SIGN in Felwood indicating the way to Hyjal...  I could get right to the edge, where I could see a few vague map features, one of which that much to my excitement matched the place given as Nordrassil&#039;s spot according the the War of the Ancients Books....  but alas, I could never REACH that spot... Later, I learned some have gotten &#039;off the map&#039; and been ported out, but I never reached that spot...

Now, Hyjal will become a zone that we will play through and protect the World Tree.  I&#039;m a druid before anything else in this game... it works for me!  :)

::going to to re-read Stormrage for about the 8th time since I got it last Tuesday::]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it was spending hours in Wintergrasp and Felwood trying to find SOME way to Hyjal!  After all, my main is an NE druid, she SHOULD be able to visit Nordrassil if she wants!  There is even a SIGN in Felwood indicating the way to Hyjal&#8230;  I could get right to the edge, where I could see a few vague map features, one of which that much to my excitement matched the place given as Nordrassil&#8217;s spot according the the War of the Ancients Books&#8230;.  but alas, I could never REACH that spot&#8230; Later, I learned some have gotten &#8216;off the map&#8217; and been ported out, but I never reached that spot&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, Hyjal will become a zone that we will play through and protect the World Tree.  I&#8217;m a druid before anything else in this game&#8230; it works for me!  :)</p>
<p>::going to to re-read Stormrage for about the 8th time since I got it last Tuesday::</p>
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