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	<title>Comments on: Azriaga of Hellscream &#8211; guild ninja failsauce</title>
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		<title>By: Grim</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/03/29/azriaga-of-hellscream-guild-ninja-failsauce/comment-page-1/#comment-30490</link>
		<dc:creator>Grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, on a *completely* unrelated note. How the hell is she a tuskarr? &#039;cause that&#039;s what armory shows. Tuskarr Death Knight. wtf?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, on a *completely* unrelated note. How the hell is she a tuskarr? &#8217;cause that&#8217;s what armory shows. Tuskarr Death Knight. wtf?</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/03/29/azriaga-of-hellscream-guild-ninja-failsauce/comment-page-1/#comment-30278</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh if that&#039;s the case than screw him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh if that&#8217;s the case than screw him.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiraa</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/03/29/azriaga-of-hellscream-guild-ninja-failsauce/comment-page-1/#comment-30263</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiraa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you really think this was intentional, you can also put in a ticket. This happened in my guild, and taking things from the GV and gqutting is against TOS and bannable I believe. If this person WAS hacked, it is likely Blizz will figure it out, but even more, they might be able to replace what was taken. My guild got most of the items back. Good luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really think this was intentional, you can also put in a ticket. This happened in my guild, and taking things from the GV and gqutting is against TOS and bannable I believe. If this person WAS hacked, it is likely Blizz will figure it out, but even more, they might be able to replace what was taken. My guild got most of the items back. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Suniojii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suniojii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Track him and burn him on his new server with http://www.wowprogress.com/detective]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Track him and burn him on his new server with <a href="http://www.wowprogress.com/detective" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowprogress.com/detective</a></p>
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		<title>By: Firecroch</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/03/29/azriaga-of-hellscream-guild-ninja-failsauce/comment-page-1/#comment-30232</link>
		<dc:creator>Firecroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With your bank being left open as it is, be careful.  As my friends guild found out they had a hacker that posed as a player just to get that invite to the guild.  Once they did that they went and inspected the bank to see what was in there.  It was guild espionage but luckily they have their vault locked down.  Coincidentally their guild members started getting hacked.  Who ever would have thought that cloak and dagger techniques would be used in a game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With your bank being left open as it is, be careful.  As my friends guild found out they had a hacker that posed as a player just to get that invite to the guild.  Once they did that they went and inspected the bank to see what was in there.  It was guild espionage but luckily they have their vault locked down.  Coincidentally their guild members started getting hacked.  Who ever would have thought that cloak and dagger techniques would be used in a game?</p>
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		<title>By: Arrowrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arrowrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very sorry to hear about that. I know I&#039;d be really ticked off. In the scheme of all things, it&#039;s not the items that were taken, it&#039;s the trust that was betrayed. It&#039;s pretty obvious he wasn&#039;t hacked from his behavior.

I used to run a fairly large guild back in Burning Crusade and we had a rule of removing anyone that was inactive for over three months unless they notified us they&#039;d be gone for awhile. With a lot of members it was really hard to know what was going on otherwise. I do remember handling some irate people that came back after not playing for several months but my response was if you didn&#039;t notify the guild, how else are we to know if you left for good or not?
.-= Arrowrest&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://arrowrest.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/when-typos-become-a-menace/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When Typos Become a Menace&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sorry to hear about that. I know I&#8217;d be really ticked off. In the scheme of all things, it&#8217;s not the items that were taken, it&#8217;s the trust that was betrayed. It&#8217;s pretty obvious he wasn&#8217;t hacked from his behavior.</p>
<p>I used to run a fairly large guild back in Burning Crusade and we had a rule of removing anyone that was inactive for over three months unless they notified us they&#8217;d be gone for awhile. With a lot of members it was really hard to know what was going on otherwise. I do remember handling some irate people that came back after not playing for several months but my response was if you didn&#8217;t notify the guild, how else are we to know if you left for good or not?<br />
.-= Arrowrest&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://arrowrest.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/when-typos-become-a-menace/" rel="nofollow">When Typos Become a Menace</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Elegantdeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elegantdeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Always good to visit your site.  Sorry I have not been on Kael&#039;thas in some time (and figure I&#039;m guild-less by now!).

Definitely do a GM ticket on this.  As soon as they see the log and the fact that the person jetted-out, they will likely take action.  Trust me, in cases where users are doing stupid things like this (fraud), they want to set an example.  It will be difficult for that player to claim being hacked since they may even have authenticator (plus, hackers don&#039;t leave anything - gear, etc.).

P.S.  Is this the same guy that got &quot;hacked&quot; about half a year ago and a bunch of us crafted items until he could get his stuff back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good to visit your site.  Sorry I have not been on Kael&#8217;thas in some time (and figure I&#8217;m guild-less by now!).</p>
<p>Definitely do a GM ticket on this.  As soon as they see the log and the fact that the person jetted-out, they will likely take action.  Trust me, in cases where users are doing stupid things like this (fraud), they want to set an example.  It will be difficult for that player to claim being hacked since they may even have authenticator (plus, hackers don&#8217;t leave anything &#8211; gear, etc.).</p>
<p>P.S.  Is this the same guy that got &#8220;hacked&#8221; about half a year ago and a bunch of us crafted items until he could get his stuff back?</p>
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		<title>By: Melpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowtan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We tend to be fairly flexible - if we have a long term member stop logging in, we leave them in the guild roster for a longer time than those who only popped on once or twice.  But I&#039;ve become a little more realistic over the years and simply have said that, if I remove someone from the guild for being afk for months, and they want back in, they can simply let us know and as long as they&#039;ve not had a previously bad past record, they can re-join.  However, they do rejoin at the bottom rank, which means no access to the vault, until they have been back a number of weeks (and played regularly).  So it is worth their while letting us know and keeping us informed if they&#039;re away for any reason, but plan to come back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tend to be fairly flexible &#8211; if we have a long term member stop logging in, we leave them in the guild roster for a longer time than those who only popped on once or twice.  But I&#8217;ve become a little more realistic over the years and simply have said that, if I remove someone from the guild for being afk for months, and they want back in, they can simply let us know and as long as they&#8217;ve not had a previously bad past record, they can re-join.  However, they do rejoin at the bottom rank, which means no access to the vault, until they have been back a number of weeks (and played regularly).  So it is worth their while letting us know and keeping us informed if they&#8217;re away for any reason, but plan to come back.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solid, you&#039;ve got a very good point. But, you see, when people go long afk for a while, if I don&#039;t actually hear from them, I tend to run with the idea that real life took them from us. We&#039;ve had people that went overseas in the military, for example, and when they said they were going to be gone, I simply added a note that they&#039;d be gone, and that way we didn&#039;t accidentally remove them for being afk for 11 months. :)

There have been other people that we leave, who post frequently about all the other wonderful things they&#039;re doing, the other games they play, the other servers they raid on, and when we see that, we do remove them, for the same reasons you say; they have shown they don&#039;t want to play here, and aren&#039;t concerned with chatting with us either for long, long stretches of time. They&#039;ve moved and, and so do we.

But when someone just goes silent, and afk from guild, and we never know what may have happened, then we try to leave things alone for a long time. Something may always have come up. 


Cassie is more the realist of the two of us, saying that if someone doesn&#039;t log in for a couple months and not even posted in the forums, that it&#039;s time to cut the ties and move on. Usually (I refuse to admit always) she&#039;s proven right. I just walk around with my head in the clouds and hate letting go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid, you&#8217;ve got a very good point. But, you see, when people go long afk for a while, if I don&#8217;t actually hear from them, I tend to run with the idea that real life took them from us. We&#8217;ve had people that went overseas in the military, for example, and when they said they were going to be gone, I simply added a note that they&#8217;d be gone, and that way we didn&#8217;t accidentally remove them for being afk for 11 months. :)</p>
<p>There have been other people that we leave, who post frequently about all the other wonderful things they&#8217;re doing, the other games they play, the other servers they raid on, and when we see that, we do remove them, for the same reasons you say; they have shown they don&#8217;t want to play here, and aren&#8217;t concerned with chatting with us either for long, long stretches of time. They&#8217;ve moved and, and so do we.</p>
<p>But when someone just goes silent, and afk from guild, and we never know what may have happened, then we try to leave things alone for a long time. Something may always have come up. </p>
<p>Cassie is more the realist of the two of us, saying that if someone doesn&#8217;t log in for a couple months and not even posted in the forums, that it&#8217;s time to cut the ties and move on. Usually (I refuse to admit always) she&#8217;s proven right. I just walk around with my head in the clouds and hate letting go.</p>
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