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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Aur</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/04/26/raiding-can-be-fun-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-32801</link>
		<dc:creator>Aur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice job in ICC! BTW, in absence of a rogue, a lock can pop the traps from a safe distance using Eye of Killrogg. Kinda takes the fun away from the body-trip method though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job in ICC! BTW, in absence of a rogue, a lock can pop the traps from a safe distance using Eye of Killrogg. Kinda takes the fun away from the body-trip method though!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/04/26/raiding-can-be-fun-who-knew/comment-page-1/#comment-32756</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoy raids with folks I know and when it isn&#039;t too serious.  Thats not to say I don&#039;t want folks doing their job but if its too intense, its just no fun.  I tend to use rejuv and wild growth and love the Ephemeral Snowflake trinket with nourish if the tank runs into issues.  It&#039;s a lifesaver but does suck alot of mana.  Great for an accidentally double trash pull or during an enrage.  I keep the tank as hotted as possible throughout the fights and try to stay out of trouble myself:)
.-= Cathy&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://magerlydifferent.blogspot.com/2010/04/blonde-pvp-moments.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blonde PVP moments&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy raids with folks I know and when it isn&#8217;t too serious.  Thats not to say I don&#8217;t want folks doing their job but if its too intense, its just no fun.  I tend to use rejuv and wild growth and love the Ephemeral Snowflake trinket with nourish if the tank runs into issues.  It&#8217;s a lifesaver but does suck alot of mana.  Great for an accidentally double trash pull or during an enrage.  I keep the tank as hotted as possible throughout the fights and try to stay out of trouble myself:)<br />
.-= Cathy&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://magerlydifferent.blogspot.com/2010/04/blonde-pvp-moments.html" rel="nofollow">Blonde PVP moments</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: SpookyCrisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpookyCrisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have it on good authority that a noob lock can totally pwn strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it on good authority that a noob lock can totally pwn strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Fan 

For raid heals, i do regrowth/WG.  The issue is the spikey damage.  Rejuv is great, efficient spell, but the first tic takes..what 3-5 seconds?  An eternity in raid time.   I&#039;m not saying remove rejuv from your cast bar, but by and large those tics dont help much.  Unless its marrowgar during bone storm, or festergut (where everyone gets a rejuv/regrowth set, gotta love 5000 hps on that fight).  Don&#039;t worry if the raid isn&#039;t taking alot of damage, you aren&#039;t trying to beat meters (RIGHT?).  If the raid/tanks are dying, then look at the bigger picture.  From my experience, the shamans, paladines, etc. will top off the dps long before your rejuvs even notice they should be healing the target and not sitting on their ass.   

For tank heals, always make sure you have 1x LB 1x regrowth 1x rejuv.  That should take 6 seconds or so.  At that point cast nourish, not before.  (wonder if HT is more efficient than nourish at that point?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fan </p>
<p>For raid heals, i do regrowth/WG.  The issue is the spikey damage.  Rejuv is great, efficient spell, but the first tic takes..what 3-5 seconds?  An eternity in raid time.   I&#8217;m not saying remove rejuv from your cast bar, but by and large those tics dont help much.  Unless its marrowgar during bone storm, or festergut (where everyone gets a rejuv/regrowth set, gotta love 5000 hps on that fight).  Don&#8217;t worry if the raid isn&#8217;t taking alot of damage, you aren&#8217;t trying to beat meters (RIGHT?).  If the raid/tanks are dying, then look at the bigger picture.  From my experience, the shamans, paladines, etc. will top off the dps long before your rejuvs even notice they should be healing the target and not sitting on their ass.   </p>
<p>For tank heals, always make sure you have 1x LB 1x regrowth 1x rejuv.  That should take 6 seconds or so.  At that point cast nourish, not before.  (wonder if HT is more efficient than nourish at that point?).</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks BBB, now i&#039;m insanely jealous.  I can&#039;t get ICC10 done on my horde toons to save my life; mostly i go in with my DK tank.  idk what it is about that server.  My Alliance server (where i have a nicely geared tree), its usually not a problem.

Anyway last night, figured go in, try to get it down.  Couldn&#039;t even get past marrowgar.  I did get some rep and the friendly ring.  So, it was worth it for me.  But lord.  You are kidding, can&#039;t get through marrowgar?   The dps despite doing 6-7k each, can&#039;t get into his hitbox?  The healers can&#039;t heal?  The bone spikes can&#039;t be brought down?   Gah.  Oh well.  

Previous attempt?  I have avg ilvl 245 gear.  &quot;You aren&#039;t geared enough to do ICC10 first few bosses with a 10% buff&quot; says the ICC25 geared tree healer.  You are shitting me.  Okay, fine whatever, disband raid.

Attempt before that?  Got through marrowgar/deathwhisper...Couldn&#039;t get past the gunship.  &quot;oh we are supposed to heal the tanks?&quot;.  Agh.  I just can&#039;t stand it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BBB, now i&#8217;m insanely jealous.  I can&#8217;t get ICC10 done on my horde toons to save my life; mostly i go in with my DK tank.  idk what it is about that server.  My Alliance server (where i have a nicely geared tree), its usually not a problem.</p>
<p>Anyway last night, figured go in, try to get it down.  Couldn&#8217;t even get past marrowgar.  I did get some rep and the friendly ring.  So, it was worth it for me.  But lord.  You are kidding, can&#8217;t get through marrowgar?   The dps despite doing 6-7k each, can&#8217;t get into his hitbox?  The healers can&#8217;t heal?  The bone spikes can&#8217;t be brought down?   Gah.  Oh well.  </p>
<p>Previous attempt?  I have avg ilvl 245 gear.  &#8220;You aren&#8217;t geared enough to do ICC10 first few bosses with a 10% buff&#8221; says the ICC25 geared tree healer.  You are shitting me.  Okay, fine whatever, disband raid.</p>
<p>Attempt before that?  Got through marrowgar/deathwhisper&#8230;Couldn&#8217;t get past the gunship.  &#8220;oh we are supposed to heal the tanks?&#8221;.  Agh.  I just can&#8217;t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fangtastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fangtastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just out of curiousity, what sort of spell power do you have? I find that with raid healing, rejuv alone at T9 isn&#039;t enough and regrowths are often needed for folks that took a little extra damage (and are likely to again soon).

I keep regrowth, rejuv, lifebloom x 3 and nourish on tanks.

With better gear, I see WG and Rejuv taking over the brunt of the raid healing I do. Druid healing methods have evolved with gear for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiousity, what sort of spell power do you have? I find that with raid healing, rejuv alone at T9 isn&#8217;t enough and regrowths are often needed for folks that took a little extra damage (and are likely to again soon).</p>
<p>I keep regrowth, rejuv, lifebloom x 3 and nourish on tanks.</p>
<p>With better gear, I see WG and Rejuv taking over the brunt of the raid healing I do. Druid healing methods have evolved with gear for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Naturalregis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naturalregis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Fang - I&#039;m not glyphed for Growl and I didn&#039;t have any growl issues the next time we went in there.  What seemed to be my issue was that I was taunting too early, trying to anticipate the Rune of Blood debuff on the other tank.  It worked much better AFTER the debuff gets placed on Tank #2.  That said, I also made the mistake of mis-timing my glyphed maul to hit a Blood Beast once or twice. :P  Fortunately it didn&#039;t take long for our dps to fix my silly mistake. :P
.-= Naturalregis&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://waywardinitiative.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/but-im-a-tank-damnit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But I’m a tank, damnit!&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fang &#8211; I&#8217;m not glyphed for Growl and I didn&#8217;t have any growl issues the next time we went in there.  What seemed to be my issue was that I was taunting too early, trying to anticipate the Rune of Blood debuff on the other tank.  It worked much better AFTER the debuff gets placed on Tank #2.  That said, I also made the mistake of mis-timing my glyphed maul to hit a Blood Beast once or twice. :P  Fortunately it didn&#8217;t take long for our dps to fix my silly mistake. :P<br />
.-= Naturalregis&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://waywardinitiative.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/but-im-a-tank-damnit/" rel="nofollow">But I’m a tank, damnit!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Hendryx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hendryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you like Regrowth, huh?  Well, I understand why you&#039;re using it, but I would council against such a strategy.  It&#039;s one of the reasons you seem to be having mana problems.

Instead of Regrowth, I&#039;d suggest a Nourish-&gt;Rejuv.  It&#039;s faster, less mana, and does what you really want to do better.  I generally use Regrowth as a tank HoT.

Also, I try to position myself between the tanks and some of the ranged, so my Wild Growths, when cast on myself, have a chance to hit nearly every one in the raid.  When you start doing that, you&#039;ll want to WG on cooldown.  Beyond that, I try to blanket the raid in Rejuvs, keep Regrowth on the tanks, and spot heal with Swiftmend and Nourishes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you like Regrowth, huh?  Well, I understand why you&#8217;re using it, but I would council against such a strategy.  It&#8217;s one of the reasons you seem to be having mana problems.</p>
<p>Instead of Regrowth, I&#8217;d suggest a Nourish-&gt;Rejuv.  It&#8217;s faster, less mana, and does what you really want to do better.  I generally use Regrowth as a tank HoT.</p>
<p>Also, I try to position myself between the tanks and some of the ranged, so my Wild Growths, when cast on myself, have a chance to hit nearly every one in the raid.  When you start doing that, you&#8217;ll want to WG on cooldown.  Beyond that, I try to blanket the raid in Rejuvs, keep Regrowth on the tanks, and spot heal with Swiftmend and Nourishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Haupt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haupt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That hole brute force Kaelthas....been there, then the 10K DPS mage get mind controlled...bad things happen.... very bad things. Not to self when we go back someone is picking up the dagger]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That hole brute force Kaelthas&#8230;.been there, then the 10K DPS mage get mind controlled&#8230;bad things happen&#8230;. very bad things. Not to self when we go back someone is picking up the dagger</p>
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		<title>By: Nimizar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nimizar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Fang: as far as the gunship goes, I believe Saurfang is to the Alliance as Muradin is to the Horde.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fang: as far as the gunship goes, I believe Saurfang is to the Alliance as Muradin is to the Horde.</p>
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