Look, I’m going to bottom line this, because the previous post about Cataclysm raid changes is seeing some excellent points, but it’s drifting around a bit.
Let’s cut to the chase.
The question isn’t “Do 25’s deserve better rewards than 10’s”, or “Are 25’s harder than 10’s”, or even “What should be used to entice people to play in 25’s”.
The question is, “Can 25 man raids really be as fun as 10’s to play in, if most people have to be bribed to take part in them?”
That’s the question at play here.
If you would prefer to play with 25 people over 10 people, then if the rewards are the same, it doesn’t matter, does it?
If the only reason you personally raid in 25’s is because you are bribed with better loot, but given the choice, all other things being equal, you’d rather play as part of a more intimate gathering of 10, with less chance for asshat drama… well then.
If you need a raid environment where so many bodies are necessary to win that your asshat or immature behavior will be tolerated just so people can get a big enough group together to get better loot rewards, I can imagine you’re very unhappy right about now.
It really does seem that what Blizzard is saying is, if you prefer playing with 25 people, if that feels more epic, then do so and enjoy the game.
But if you prefer playing with 10 people, if you feel that a more intimate group will be more fun for you, then you can do that as well, for an equally viable, equally rewarding experience.
Likewise with having a capped weekly point system to do away with having to run daily Heroics you don’t like to get Emblems.
If you have to be bribed to do it, then they’re removing the bribe. Now, if you still want to do it for fun, go for it. But it will be by your own choice, not because you have to.
I have heard a lot of arguments one way and the other, but in my opinion, if you are playing the game, or a part of the game, you should be doing it because it’s fun, not because you feel you have to.
If this change they are making results in guilds fragmenting into smaller groups of friends who would prefer to raid in a more intimate environment, then the players are voting based on fun.
I’ll bet there will still be 25 man raid groups. I bet there will still be people who prefer the epic feel of controlled chaos and massive splash effects. As Dechion posted on his blog recently, there is a big difference in feel, and they’re a lot of fun with a great group.
But removing the bribes, and letting people vote based on which one people would rather play in is full of win.
“But wait, 10’s aren’t more fun, they’re just easier to organise”.
Umm… so they’re still more fun for the raid leader/organizer, right? Or don’t those people count too?
Just something to think of.