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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-38662</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL! So much for my admiration of your steel-plated toes (the kind you don&#039;t even NOTICE when people step on) - you totally did take it personally!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! So much for my admiration of your steel-plated toes (the kind you don&#8217;t even NOTICE when people step on) &#8211; you totally did take it personally!</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-38645</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ROFLMAO!!!

I just figured you were saying you gave up on me because my WoW posts were crap!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFLMAO!!!</p>
<p>I just figured you were saying you gave up on me because my WoW posts were crap!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-38643</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made the comment about not being a regular reader as, basically, a claim to non-fanboi status. I read here regularly a year or more ago, and gradually just found less of interest - changing WoW trends or whatever. So whatever thoughts I had to share about your fiction were going to come from a different kind of reader than you might have expected. Somehow it seemed relevant then - not sure it does, now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made the comment about not being a regular reader as, basically, a claim to non-fanboi status. I read here regularly a year or more ago, and gradually just found less of interest &#8211; changing WoW trends or whatever. So whatever thoughts I had to share about your fiction were going to come from a different kind of reader than you might have expected. Somehow it seemed relevant then &#8211; not sure it does, now.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-38637</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I will admit to confusion about what you might have meant about giving up on my WoW blogging a while back, but since I know that my WoW blogging has changed drastically since the days when I first started, and I know why it has, I can&#039;t argue with anyone that isn&#039;t happy with the changes in article quality/style over the years. Things have definitely changed around here, no question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I will admit to confusion about what you might have meant about giving up on my WoW blogging a while back, but since I know that my WoW blogging has changed drastically since the days when I first started, and I know why it has, I can&#8217;t argue with anyone that isn&#8217;t happy with the changes in article quality/style over the years. Things have definitely changed around here, no question.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-38635</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the positive response, BBB. I was feeling like such a little girl for my post-submission fear that my comments were too negative and I might have hurt your feelings... I&#039;m happy to know you heard what I meant to say, instead of what I feared you&#039;d think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the positive response, BBB. I was feeling like such a little girl for my post-submission fear that my comments were too negative and I might have hurt your feelings&#8230; I&#8217;m happy to know you heard what I meant to say, instead of what I feared you&#8217;d think.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-37872</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and as far as the difference between how much of Jessie you see, as compared to Terin... you hit the nail on the head when you describe how unwieldy it is. Unfortunately, since I act on character feedback from the players... when james is swamped with family and school and work, Jessie takes center stage.

Your points on the way it badly needs editing is also well taken. Some of this came from IM chat live, then copy/pasted into Word, a lot of tense issues came from that, and of course there&#039;s the fct that i was only e4ver writing it for two other people to see... so I didn&#039;t sweat the typos too much.

Eventually, once everything is ties up into a balanced end of the first &quot;book&quot;, I&#039;ll restructure the pacing of the two characters into a more balanced flow that matches a shared timeline a bit better. And hopefully edit it then too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as far as the difference between how much of Jessie you see, as compared to Terin&#8230; you hit the nail on the head when you describe how unwieldy it is. Unfortunately, since I act on character feedback from the players&#8230; when james is swamped with family and school and work, Jessie takes center stage.</p>
<p>Your points on the way it badly needs editing is also well taken. Some of this came from IM chat live, then copy/pasted into Word, a lot of tense issues came from that, and of course there&#8217;s the fct that i was only e4ver writing it for two other people to see&#8230; so I didn&#8217;t sweat the typos too much.</p>
<p>Eventually, once everything is ties up into a balanced end of the first &#8220;book&#8221;, I&#8217;ll restructure the pacing of the two characters into a more balanced flow that matches a shared timeline a bit better. And hopefully edit it then too.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m back from vacation, and while email will still take a while to answer, I wanted to thank all of you for your excellent feedback. Tracey, your comments in prticular help me get an idea of how things are perceived from outside my head, and I thank you.

Amusingly enough, I just started reading the Jim Butcher Calderon series for the very first time a few weeks ago. Very fun, great setting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m back from vacation, and while email will still take a while to answer, I wanted to thank all of you for your excellent feedback. Tracey, your comments in prticular help me get an idea of how things are perceived from outside my head, and I thank you.</p>
<p>Amusingly enough, I just started reading the Jim Butcher Calderon series for the very first time a few weeks ago. Very fun, great setting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-37852</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honest feedback, from someone who mostly gave up on your WoW blogging quite a while back. This is potentially very good. Ignoring the rough-draft issues like tenses/typos/random awkwardness, there&#039;s a real story here. You have obviously imagined the world very deeply, but you&#039;re content to allow most of the detail to come through as needed - no Nivien dumps here. I&#039;m honestly excited to see Jessie&#039;s internal growth be explored so vividly - so far you&#039;ve resisted the temptation to over simplify or conveniently personify the challenges she&#039;ll face. I&#039;ve recently been reading about Tarot studies, so the personal growth via internal clarity is apropos.

Regarding complexity and pacing, as Hana said, it depends. This feels like it&#039;s quite early in the total story, but interesting things have happened and even more interesting things are hinted at. Keep the idea of a &#039;story arc&#039; in mind, but I don&#039;t have any specific objections so far. The individual chapters are paced well - for something that&#039;s likely to be read serially, the reminder of the context at the start is important. That may change if you change the delivery format. You asked specifically about the supply warehouse scene - that felt like it was leading up to something important (the weapon master? his friendship? the sword? his opinion of the kid?) but whatever it was hasn&#039;t happened yet. 

Characters: I like Jessie, of course. Fairly common revenge motif, but the mingled souls issue gives you something different to do. I don&#039;t think I know Terin, yet. I liked him quite a bit in the School, but he&#039;s been pretty non-committal on the road. I don&#039;t *dislike* him. Bane interests me, as does the squire. I think I&#039;m going to like the Hammer.

Physical Action: Nice. You don&#039;t lose track of where your character&#039;s body is or have them randomly leave important bits behind. Combat so far is good - the 3-on-1 was clear and both the movement and the strategic intent were present. The mind-battle, which is much harder, worked almost as well. I don&#039;t think the Maxtrix-style combat was well visualized, but the overall effect was satisfying. One piece of action that&#039;s a bit weaker is during dialog - you tend to focus pretty intently on the main character, to the point that I don&#039;t much see the people he&#039;s talking to, after the initial description. They don&#039;t (as least, my impression -- I&#039;m not looking at the text right now) get a lot of descriptors during the interaction. One exception to that was the Orc convo Jessie overheard from behind the stump. Those guys were quite active!

Bottom line: totally worth your effort. Badly wants to be edited, and you might consider handling the character shifts differently - bigger blocks? It&#039;s so early now, it&#039;s hard to say about that part. Reminds me just a little bit of Jim Butcher&#039;s Calderon series - the flavor of the world and the politics, perhaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest feedback, from someone who mostly gave up on your WoW blogging quite a while back. This is potentially very good. Ignoring the rough-draft issues like tenses/typos/random awkwardness, there&#8217;s a real story here. You have obviously imagined the world very deeply, but you&#8217;re content to allow most of the detail to come through as needed &#8211; no Nivien dumps here. I&#8217;m honestly excited to see Jessie&#8217;s internal growth be explored so vividly &#8211; so far you&#8217;ve resisted the temptation to over simplify or conveniently personify the challenges she&#8217;ll face. I&#8217;ve recently been reading about Tarot studies, so the personal growth via internal clarity is apropos.</p>
<p>Regarding complexity and pacing, as Hana said, it depends. This feels like it&#8217;s quite early in the total story, but interesting things have happened and even more interesting things are hinted at. Keep the idea of a &#8216;story arc&#8217; in mind, but I don&#8217;t have any specific objections so far. The individual chapters are paced well &#8211; for something that&#8217;s likely to be read serially, the reminder of the context at the start is important. That may change if you change the delivery format. You asked specifically about the supply warehouse scene &#8211; that felt like it was leading up to something important (the weapon master? his friendship? the sword? his opinion of the kid?) but whatever it was hasn&#8217;t happened yet. </p>
<p>Characters: I like Jessie, of course. Fairly common revenge motif, but the mingled souls issue gives you something different to do. I don&#8217;t think I know Terin, yet. I liked him quite a bit in the School, but he&#8217;s been pretty non-committal on the road. I don&#8217;t *dislike* him. Bane interests me, as does the squire. I think I&#8217;m going to like the Hammer.</p>
<p>Physical Action: Nice. You don&#8217;t lose track of where your character&#8217;s body is or have them randomly leave important bits behind. Combat so far is good &#8211; the 3-on-1 was clear and both the movement and the strategic intent were present. The mind-battle, which is much harder, worked almost as well. I don&#8217;t think the Maxtrix-style combat was well visualized, but the overall effect was satisfying. One piece of action that&#8217;s a bit weaker is during dialog &#8211; you tend to focus pretty intently on the main character, to the point that I don&#8217;t much see the people he&#8217;s talking to, after the initial description. They don&#8217;t (as least, my impression &#8212; I&#8217;m not looking at the text right now) get a lot of descriptors during the interaction. One exception to that was the Orc convo Jessie overheard from behind the stump. Those guys were quite active!</p>
<p>Bottom line: totally worth your effort. Badly wants to be edited, and you might consider handling the character shifts differently &#8211; bigger blocks? It&#8217;s so early now, it&#8217;s hard to say about that part. Reminds me just a little bit of Jim Butcher&#8217;s Calderon series &#8211; the flavor of the world and the politics, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Melpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I need to come visit some time and we can hammer out some more of Terin&#039;s story.  I think I&#039;m to blame a bit for the difference in the amount of story out there for my character, but hopefully we can slam through a bunch and bring out his personality a bit more in the next few installments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I need to come visit some time and we can hammer out some more of Terin&#8217;s story.  I think I&#8217;m to blame a bit for the difference in the amount of story out there for my character, but hopefully we can slam through a bunch and bring out his personality a bit more in the next few installments.</p>
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		<title>By: Pyewacket</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/11/im-requesting-some-fictional-feedback/comment-page-1/#comment-37389</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyewacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m addicted to Converging Forces - I&#039;ve been suffering these many months waiting for the next one.

Its been awhile since I&#039;ve read them though so I&#039;m not sure if I can comment very deeply.  I agree with DawnOfLight -  the characters so far have been very likable and I really like Jesse&#039;s story and co-characters.  I though the pacing was good and the story overall was excellent - the wait between the installments 
drove me a little crazy though cuz I would be dying to find out what happened next :D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m addicted to Converging Forces &#8211; I&#8217;ve been suffering these many months waiting for the next one.</p>
<p>Its been awhile since I&#8217;ve read them though so I&#8217;m not sure if I can comment very deeply.  I agree with DawnOfLight &#8211;  the characters so far have been very likable and I really like Jesse&#8217;s story and co-characters.  I though the pacing was good and the story overall was excellent &#8211; the wait between the installments<br />
drove me a little crazy though cuz I would be dying to find out what happened next :D.</p>
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