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		<title>By: Resto</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/24/yes-yes-the-ice-stone-has-melted-whatever/comment-page-1/#comment-39017</link>
		<dc:creator>Resto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha I feel you pain, the other day I hop on to the Ahune boss with my resto Druid, and I got 3 mages and one paladin tank, so what happen? the Mages decided that the three of them should be on boss all the time, so we had so many adds running lose in a complete chaos tank was trying to gather them all up but she did all she could no one died and the mages killed him, however at the end they began insulting the tank wich i couldn&#039;t resist and defended the tank told them they were a bunch of... (a bunch of insult), due to the fact they just wanted to top meter on boss was awful but nice tanking from that pally]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha I feel you pain, the other day I hop on to the Ahune boss with my resto Druid, and I got 3 mages and one paladin tank, so what happen? the Mages decided that the three of them should be on boss all the time, so we had so many adds running lose in a complete chaos tank was trying to gather them all up but she did all she could no one died and the mages killed him, however at the end they began insulting the tank wich i couldn&#8217;t resist and defended the tank told them they were a bunch of&#8230; (a bunch of insult), due to the fact they just wanted to top meter on boss was awful but nice tanking from that pally</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bear, I think what GC was talking about is the top end PVE players. Look at people from top 10 or even top 100 guilds (Paragon, Ensidia, Premonition, and many more) and compare their progress to that of the general populace. Blizzard can&#039;t use gear as a barrier to these guilds, because if they do - the rest of us are pretty screwed.

The general population - yeah, there are a LOT of bad players, including some with fancy titles and guilds.

Grats on your new pet - I&#039;ve run Ahune the past few days on my warrior, and have yet to see anything but the cloak drop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear, I think what GC was talking about is the top end PVE players. Look at people from top 10 or even top 100 guilds (Paragon, Ensidia, Premonition, and many more) and compare their progress to that of the general populace. Blizzard can&#8217;t use gear as a barrier to these guilds, because if they do &#8211; the rest of us are pretty screwed.</p>
<p>The general population &#8211; yeah, there are a LOT of bad players, including some with fancy titles and guilds.</p>
<p>Grats on your new pet &#8211; I&#8217;ve run Ahune the past few days on my warrior, and have yet to see anything but the cloak drop.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob' Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob' Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know... you just made my day with this blog post.

Seriously. I&#039;m wet from the sudden downpour here in Manila, and it&#039;s a rather fail Monday, but after reading your post (my Guildmaster linked it to us via Plurk), I, was, like... &quot;omg. How can so much win be in one blog post?&quot;

Thank you so much ^_^

In fairness, we wiped that first try, on the very first day of Midsummer. Because we did the DPS burn route. Stupid of us, I know, I know. After the wipe, me and the GM decide to do it our usual way and &quot;play this smart and safe.&quot; Also, I&#039;m coming off a two-month WoW-less period so I actually forgot where I put Lay On Hands and I&#039;m rusty with my emergency Retadin healing acrobatics. Poor undergeared Shammy healer friend T_T I know, its not an excuse, but it took me a while to get the old rhythms back. 

Yes, this Ahune is good. Very good.

Really? A Kingslayer?

*stops self from giving an indecorous reaction*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230; you just made my day with this blog post.</p>
<p>Seriously. I&#8217;m wet from the sudden downpour here in Manila, and it&#8217;s a rather fail Monday, but after reading your post (my Guildmaster linked it to us via Plurk), I, was, like&#8230; &#8220;omg. How can so much win be in one blog post?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you so much ^_^</p>
<p>In fairness, we wiped that first try, on the very first day of Midsummer. Because we did the DPS burn route. Stupid of us, I know, I know. After the wipe, me and the GM decide to do it our usual way and &#8220;play this smart and safe.&#8221; Also, I&#8217;m coming off a two-month WoW-less period so I actually forgot where I put Lay On Hands and I&#8217;m rusty with my emergency Retadin healing acrobatics. Poor undergeared Shammy healer friend T_T I know, its not an excuse, but it took me a while to get the old rhythms back. </p>
<p>Yes, this Ahune is good. Very good.</p>
<p>Really? A Kingslayer?</p>
<p>*stops self from giving an indecorous reaction*</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have run this a few times this holiday on my Tree, and yesterday zoned in to find a Boomkin tanking (I am in no doubt he would also have been a healer in another group). We cleared it though, despite the 5.7k GS boomkin just standing there and DPSing the boss while a DK tried to coral the adds.

Got the scythe/staff thing, would be awesome on my tree if I had not got the battered hilt healing mace a couple of weeks ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have run this a few times this holiday on my Tree, and yesterday zoned in to find a Boomkin tanking (I am in no doubt he would also have been a healer in another group). We cleared it though, despite the 5.7k GS boomkin just standing there and DPSing the boss while a DK tried to coral the adds.</p>
<p>Got the scythe/staff thing, would be awesome on my tree if I had not got the battered hilt healing mace a couple of weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, kinda had a wake up call on this one.  
What wake up call?  Oh.   I have a frost DK tank.  

Oh no.  

Yep, no icy touch, no howling blast.  
Just me, my taunts, and my dnd..  
It&#039;s actually kind of fun, but that first 15 seconds of adaptation was scary.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, kinda had a wake up call on this one.<br />
What wake up call?  Oh.   I have a frost DK tank.  </p>
<p>Oh no.  </p>
<p>Yep, no icy touch, no howling blast.<br />
Just me, my taunts, and my dnd..<br />
It&#8217;s actually kind of fun, but that first 15 seconds of adaptation was scary.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: niceas</title>
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		<dc:creator>niceas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What really, really burns my ass is that everyone on these runs seems to think that they should stand wherever the hell they want, rather than, you know, helping the tank deal with adds coming from all directions.

I have yet to have a healer stand in the consecrate.  When I&#039;m healing, I am standing with the tank.

If you are having problems with the adds, and you aren&#039;t a hunter, run to the tank.  Their AOE should more or less solve your problem.

I have yet to wipe (*knocks on wood*) on any of my toons.  That said, the number of times people have either a: dps&#039;d the boss while the adds are spawning or b: stopped dps when the boss retreated makes me want to pull my hair out.

On the other hand, my tank has all the cloaks, simply through winning greed rolls until my tank cloak dropped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really, really burns my ass is that everyone on these runs seems to think that they should stand wherever the hell they want, rather than, you know, helping the tank deal with adds coming from all directions.</p>
<p>I have yet to have a healer stand in the consecrate.  When I&#8217;m healing, I am standing with the tank.</p>
<p>If you are having problems with the adds, and you aren&#8217;t a hunter, run to the tank.  Their AOE should more or less solve your problem.</p>
<p>I have yet to wipe (*knocks on wood*) on any of my toons.  That said, the number of times people have either a: dps&#8217;d the boss while the adds are spawning or b: stopped dps when the boss retreated makes me want to pull my hair out.</p>
<p>On the other hand, my tank has all the cloaks, simply through winning greed rolls until my tank cloak dropped.</p>
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		<title>By: Zauri</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/06/24/yes-yes-the-ice-stone-has-melted-whatever/comment-page-1/#comment-38655</link>
		<dc:creator>Zauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A real tank isn&#039;t even necessary in most groups for Ahune (at least this year; TBC Ahune was another story in my experience).  I took my paladin in after changing my prot spec to ret but without changing my role checkboxes and wound up ret tanking with 4700GS dps gear.  None of the adds hit particularly hard and most of the time on two different battlegroups the randoms are able to kill Ahune by the end of the first withdrawal. 

Of course, last night I had to be proved wrong.  I was pally healing for a group with two warriors and two DKs.  They ignored the adds half the time, and everyone ran in to take a swing at the boss, only to be knocked back.  Unfazed, they kept charging in...over and over.  One died, ran back, and kept charging in...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A real tank isn&#8217;t even necessary in most groups for Ahune (at least this year; TBC Ahune was another story in my experience).  I took my paladin in after changing my prot spec to ret but without changing my role checkboxes and wound up ret tanking with 4700GS dps gear.  None of the adds hit particularly hard and most of the time on two different battlegroups the randoms are able to kill Ahune by the end of the first withdrawal. </p>
<p>Of course, last night I had to be proved wrong.  I was pally healing for a group with two warriors and two DKs.  They ignored the adds half the time, and everyone ran in to take a swing at the boss, only to be knocked back.  Unfazed, they kept charging in&#8230;over and over.  One died, ran back, and kept charging in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jeffo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had a mixed bag. First try of the year on my lock, we downed the boss, no trouble (pure pug group, btw), and I got the pet. Later I went in on my Holy Paladin, pure pug. What a nightmare! It took at least five minutes. Somehow, nobody died, though I spent the entire time dodging mobs, running out of blue circles, trying to drag mobs to the tank, saving dps who were somehow knocking on Death&#039;s Door. I had to blow Lay on Hands on one of the dps and then found myself wishing that I had saved it for the tank. We managed without any deaths, and the tank posted healing meters: he was on top, at about 1.9 K. That would explain a lot.

I&#039;ve run it since on each toon with guild groups and have had absolutely zero problems. And I got the staff. For my paladin. Ah well, the festival runs for another week or so, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a mixed bag. First try of the year on my lock, we downed the boss, no trouble (pure pug group, btw), and I got the pet. Later I went in on my Holy Paladin, pure pug. What a nightmare! It took at least five minutes. Somehow, nobody died, though I spent the entire time dodging mobs, running out of blue circles, trying to drag mobs to the tank, saving dps who were somehow knocking on Death&#8217;s Door. I had to blow Lay on Hands on one of the dps and then found myself wishing that I had saved it for the tank. We managed without any deaths, and the tank posted healing meters: he was on top, at about 1.9 K. That would explain a lot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve run it since on each toon with guild groups and have had absolutely zero problems. And I got the staff. For my paladin. Ah well, the festival runs for another week or so, right?</p>
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		<title>By: kattrinsaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>kattrinsaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally nailed ahune last night, popped on and ran a blazing fast HHOL, the pug group chuckled and cheered when I gave my standard. &quot;please keep all arms and legs in the car at all times, if you pull it you tank it, holler if you need mana, and don&#039;t forget to have fun&quot; speech.

plowed through that, then some guildies said hey, want to come tank ahune? I&#039;m immediately thinking, OMG they want me to tank a boss I&#039;ve never even seen bethree.. err before. (deflationary language.. sorry) They said it was just a matter of controlling adds, I decided, i can do that.. so away we went. downed him first try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally nailed ahune last night, popped on and ran a blazing fast HHOL, the pug group chuckled and cheered when I gave my standard. &#8220;please keep all arms and legs in the car at all times, if you pull it you tank it, holler if you need mana, and don&#8217;t forget to have fun&#8221; speech.</p>
<p>plowed through that, then some guildies said hey, want to come tank ahune? I&#8217;m immediately thinking, OMG they want me to tank a boss I&#8217;ve never even seen bethree.. err before. (deflationary language.. sorry) They said it was just a matter of controlling adds, I decided, i can do that.. so away we went. downed him first try.</p>
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		<title>By: TerraformerX</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerraformerX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately there is a bug with the lootchest!
Mmo-champ warned about this... 
Seen it right the next run, when the Tankcloak was taken out of the chest without the chance to roll on it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there is a bug with the lootchest!<br />
Mmo-champ warned about this&#8230;<br />
Seen it right the next run, when the Tankcloak was taken out of the chest without the chance to roll on it!</p>
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