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		<title>By: Asymmetric dispute &#124; Blog</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-55071</link>
		<dc:creator>Asymmetric dispute &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 07:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] since the healer. Not merely is the increased reward for tanks entirely justified, if anything,  as Big Stand Butt remarks , it isn&#8217;t high enough [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since the healer. Not merely is the increased reward for tanks entirely justified, if anything,  as Big Stand Butt remarks , it isn&#8217;t high enough [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Satchel of Exotic Mysteries in Patch 4.1 &#124; Warcraft Gold blog</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54968</link>
		<dc:creator>Satchel of Exotic Mysteries in Patch 4.1 &#124; Warcraft Gold blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 00:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] kitty. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: We Expect To See Patch 4.1 This Week &#171; Shredding Attacks</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54749</link>
		<dc:creator>We Expect To See Patch 4.1 This Week &#171; Shredding Attacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] does sound quite limited.  Guild challenges, weekly random heroic rewards and the Call to Arms &#8220;bribe&#8221; are all interesting changes, and in my opinion, mainly for the better.    &#171; BA Shared Topic: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] does sound quite limited.  Guild challenges, weekly random heroic rewards and the Call to Arms &#8220;bribe&#8221; are all interesting changes, and in my opinion, mainly for the better.    &laquo; BA Shared Topic: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54314</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment is full of win! Thanks, made me smile. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment is full of win! Thanks, made me smile. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54304</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bad tanks, yes.  Bad healers yes. Bad DPS yes.
The Root cause is the anonymity offered by LFD.  Anyone can act like an asshat with no repurcussions in todays LFD.  Back in the days of BC, if you were an asshat you soon got a reputation on the server, and quickly found it hard to get queues.

Create repercussions for bad behavior, and you might get tanks returning.
Like people have mentioned earlier here are some ideas.

Quicker kick function available for the tank (but everyone minus the tard has to agree)
Larger block list, and when you block someone, you block their WHOLE ACCOUNT.  The problem is the person behind the keyboard, not the character.
Loot lock so tanks get first dibbs on specific tank gear, healers on healing gear.
A Post run ranking system for every player, where you can rank others.  People who accumulate good ranking over bad get priority in the queue.
People with bad &#039;asshat&#039; ranking who rank others as low are counted far less.
Have ongoing rewards for people getting good rankings - and keeping them.
ETC.

Fix the player attitude problem - either by force or subtle manipulation - not just throw some crappy loot at tanks.

P.S. I farmed 2 of those 3 rare mounts (barons charger) and (raven lord) and am still farming the hawkstrider.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad tanks, yes.  Bad healers yes. Bad DPS yes.<br />
The Root cause is the anonymity offered by LFD.  Anyone can act like an asshat with no repurcussions in todays LFD.  Back in the days of BC, if you were an asshat you soon got a reputation on the server, and quickly found it hard to get queues.</p>
<p>Create repercussions for bad behavior, and you might get tanks returning.<br />
Like people have mentioned earlier here are some ideas.</p>
<p>Quicker kick function available for the tank (but everyone minus the tard has to agree)<br />
Larger block list, and when you block someone, you block their WHOLE ACCOUNT.  The problem is the person behind the keyboard, not the character.<br />
Loot lock so tanks get first dibbs on specific tank gear, healers on healing gear.<br />
A Post run ranking system for every player, where you can rank others.  People who accumulate good ranking over bad get priority in the queue.<br />
People with bad &#8216;asshat&#8217; ranking who rank others as low are counted far less.<br />
Have ongoing rewards for people getting good rankings &#8211; and keeping them.<br />
ETC.</p>
<p>Fix the player attitude problem &#8211; either by force or subtle manipulation &#8211; not just throw some crappy loot at tanks.</p>
<p>P.S. I farmed 2 of those 3 rare mounts (barons charger) and (raven lord) and am still farming the hawkstrider.</p>
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		<title>By: loop_not_defined</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54303</link>
		<dc:creator>loop_not_defined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blizzard did NOT just call tanks &quot;whores&quot;.  You did.

Haggling over the price for someone to perform a task, any task, is general business practice.  It&#039;s work.  It&#039;s labor.  SEX is &quot;whoring&quot;.  You just insulted pretty much everybody who has ever worked for a living and then attempted to justify it.  Pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzard did NOT just call tanks &#8220;whores&#8221;.  You did.</p>
<p>Haggling over the price for someone to perform a task, any task, is general business practice.  It&#8217;s work.  It&#8217;s labor.  SEX is &#8220;whoring&#8221;.  You just insulted pretty much everybody who has ever worked for a living and then attempted to justify it.  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiger</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54301</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try clicking on the &#039;Older Comments&#039; link at the bottom of the page :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try clicking on the &#8216;Older Comments&#8217; link at the bottom of the page :)</p>
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		<title>By: TyphoonAndrew</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54298</link>
		<dc:creator>TyphoonAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bandaid fix to LFG CtA should include:
- lock Role based selection on the Need button, just like the armour type selection we already have. You&#039;re telling me that an algorith can&#039;t be written to validate which roles need what gear? Rubbish.
- allow Tanks to join using CtA with up to 1-2 mates. Want a fast group, imagine getting 3 guildies straight away. Thats a quick fire dungeon.
- reduce cooldown on Kick function for Tanks using CtA. They&#039;re handing the responsibility to Tanks with this tool so back it up with some power.
- report &amp; ignore lists greatly increased, so that a regular tank can avoid as many idiots as they wish.

Then I&#039;ll join up more often, till then this change is a rolling wave of meh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bandaid fix to LFG CtA should include:<br />
- lock Role based selection on the Need button, just like the armour type selection we already have. You&#8217;re telling me that an algorith can&#8217;t be written to validate which roles need what gear? Rubbish.<br />
- allow Tanks to join using CtA with up to 1-2 mates. Want a fast group, imagine getting 3 guildies straight away. Thats a quick fire dungeon.<br />
- reduce cooldown on Kick function for Tanks using CtA. They&#8217;re handing the responsibility to Tanks with this tool so back it up with some power.<br />
- report &amp; ignore lists greatly increased, so that a regular tank can avoid as many idiots as they wish.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ll join up more often, till then this change is a rolling wave of meh.</p>
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		<title>By: really tired</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54297</link>
		<dc:creator>really tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BBB has it &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; right.  The word for this is not &lt;strong&gt;whore&lt;/strong&gt;.  The word for this is &lt;strong&gt;mercenary&lt;/strong&gt;.

I&#039;m fine with being a hired gun if the employer is skilled enough.  I don&#039;t get the retirement pay or anything that a soldier in an army would get, I just get the pile of cash.  That&#039;s what mercenary service means.

Unfortunately, in this case, I don&#039;t get to see who the employers are before I group with them, so I&#039;ll probably be doing a lot of bailing within the first few seconds of randoms, Call or no Call.  Nothing here has changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBB has it <i>almost</i> right.  The word for this is not <strong>whore</strong>.  The word for this is <strong>mercenary</strong>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fine with being a hired gun if the employer is skilled enough.  I don&#8217;t get the retirement pay or anything that a soldier in an army would get, I just get the pile of cash.  That&#8217;s what mercenary service means.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in this case, I don&#8217;t get to see who the employers are before I group with them, so I&#8217;ll probably be doing a lot of bailing within the first few seconds of randoms, Call or no Call.  Nothing here has changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Adanos</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/04/08/a-call-to-bribe/comment-page-2/#comment-54280</link>
		<dc:creator>Adanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that last patch before Cata was clear it wasnt tested properly, it was rushed in.... and it crippled the servers for 2 weeks, that in my book is not caring about the quality of the product you put forth (amongst other examples)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that last patch before Cata was clear it wasnt tested properly, it was rushed in&#8230;. and it crippled the servers for 2 weeks, that in my book is not caring about the quality of the product you put forth (amongst other examples)</p>
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