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		<title>By: Perdissa</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55482</link>
		<dc:creator>Perdissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 01:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just gotta say this… Al Akir and Magmaw are the bane of hunters. Both are sufficiently large that if you are in their room/ platform and accidentally right click on any empty space on your screen, you are liable to pull them. My personal experience pulling Al Akir was when the lock dropped a soulwell on his platform. I clicked the soulwell (well, kind of) and heard the sickening twang of a crossbow and the swish of an arrow flying off into the air. Raid chat exploded in WTFs and OMGs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just gotta say this… Al Akir and Magmaw are the bane of hunters. Both are sufficiently large that if you are in their room/ platform and accidentally right click on any empty space on your screen, you are liable to pull them. My personal experience pulling Al Akir was when the lock dropped a soulwell on his platform. I clicked the soulwell (well, kind of) and heard the sickening twang of a crossbow and the swish of an arrow flying off into the air. Raid chat exploded in WTFs and OMGs.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55472</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 12:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, we did kill Al&#039;Akir... we killed everyone on normal mode but Nefarian...

And that raid team completed their guild first Nefarian kill (without me, of course!) last night.

Reins of the Purple Glowy Phoenix for everybody!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we did kill Al&#8217;Akir&#8230; we killed everyone on normal mode but Nefarian&#8230;</p>
<p>And that raid team completed their guild first Nefarian kill (without me, of course!) last night.</p>
<p>Reins of the Purple Glowy Phoenix for everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55471</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 12:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DAMN RIGHT]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAMN RIGHT</p>
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		<title>By: Riegnman</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55470</link>
		<dc:creator>Riegnman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 12:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must have tiger blood and adonis DNA, man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have tiger blood and adonis DNA, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Xaeth</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55469</link>
		<dc:creator>Xaeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 12:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey BBB,
First off, congratulations! 
Second off, as someone has already posted carrying people in cataclysm content just doesn&#039;t work, you need everyone to not wipe the raid so I&#039;m sure you did just great. 
Thirdly I&#039;m a Guild Leader with the same kinda content clears you did in the raid, 12-15k consistent is good, better than good, top DPS we have is somewhere at 17K and it&#039;s usually on magmaw who doesn&#039;t count. (Not including my 35K on Halfus! Swipe spam kitty win). 
Did you actually down Al&#039;Akir by the way? My Guild recently cleared Cho (who is so easy once you&#039;ve killed him) but we&#039;re stuck on Nef and Al&#039;Akir, mostly because after raiding so long people tend to slack at Nef/Al.
Just wanted to know what you did, even though somewhat carried, is not something to be so humble about, as someone else has posted really it takes skill from all people to not wipe a raid. We&#039;ve tried carrying some guildies because well they&#039;re guildies but if they suck it&#039;s wipe city, not to be mean just if you forget one thing on a boss it can easily cause a wipe or at the very least a very very close boss fight. Which as Main Tank kinda worries me alot, seeing the beserk timer getting very very short makes me nervous..
Anyway grats on your tasty loot and I hope maybe this has given you a spark/taste of raiding again. I love it and wouldn&#039;t look back.
X]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BBB,<br />
First off, congratulations!<br />
Second off, as someone has already posted carrying people in cataclysm content just doesn&#8217;t work, you need everyone to not wipe the raid so I&#8217;m sure you did just great.<br />
Thirdly I&#8217;m a Guild Leader with the same kinda content clears you did in the raid, 12-15k consistent is good, better than good, top DPS we have is somewhere at 17K and it&#8217;s usually on magmaw who doesn&#8217;t count. (Not including my 35K on Halfus! Swipe spam kitty win).<br />
Did you actually down Al&#8217;Akir by the way? My Guild recently cleared Cho (who is so easy once you&#8217;ve killed him) but we&#8217;re stuck on Nef and Al&#8217;Akir, mostly because after raiding so long people tend to slack at Nef/Al.<br />
Just wanted to know what you did, even though somewhat carried, is not something to be so humble about, as someone else has posted really it takes skill from all people to not wipe a raid. We&#8217;ve tried carrying some guildies because well they&#8217;re guildies but if they suck it&#8217;s wipe city, not to be mean just if you forget one thing on a boss it can easily cause a wipe or at the very least a very very close boss fight. Which as Main Tank kinda worries me alot, seeing the beserk timer getting very very short makes me nervous..<br />
Anyway grats on your tasty loot and I hope maybe this has given you a spark/taste of raiding again. I love it and wouldn&#8217;t look back.<br />
X</p>
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		<title>By: Tsudrats</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55466</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsudrats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 08:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not like you were a novice raider lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not like you were a novice raider lol</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bear, you can say they&#039;re carrying you, and it&#039;s true. At the same time, if you weren&#039;t a fundamentally good player, they wouldn&#039;t be able to do so.

Omnotron - DPSing the shield, moving the flamethrower/laser thing through the raid wrong, not moving out if you get a lightning debuff, getting marked by slimes and not kiting -- all can wipe the raid easily.

Artramades - moving wrong if you get chosen for the breath can cause serious problems.

Ascendant Council - lightning rod debuff, inappropriately DPSing your boss and pushing a phase change

Valiona / Theralion - can kill other ranged with the magic debuff if you don&#039;t get clear

Chimaeron - can kill other people by getting within 6 yards or by not stacking appropriately during Feud

Al&#039;akir - could wipe people by chaining lightning inappropriately or DPSing the adds down too fast.

Now none of these are THAT hard not to do. But the fact that your post just glosses over them shows that you&#039;ve got a good base level of skill.

Also, there aren&#039;t THAT many tank fights that are a &quot;hard&quot; skill check in normal modes. Believe me, if you went on your druid (assuming your gear was decent), you would have absolutely no problems with: Magmaw, Artramades, Chimaeron (likely), Maloriak, Halfus, Twin Dragons, and Cho&#039;gall (gear could be more of a problem on Cho&#039;gall). Honestly, one of the biggest changes I&#039;ve seen from normal mode LK raiding -&gt; normal mode Cata raiding is that it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; harder to carry bad DPS in Cataclysm raiding. Groups where everyone is a solid player will make progress pretty quickly. Groups that are 30% deadweight are totally hosed.

Anyway, I&#039;m glad you&#039;re getting a chance to raid, even if it&#039;s casual / on the side. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear, you can say they&#8217;re carrying you, and it&#8217;s true. At the same time, if you weren&#8217;t a fundamentally good player, they wouldn&#8217;t be able to do so.</p>
<p>Omnotron &#8211; DPSing the shield, moving the flamethrower/laser thing through the raid wrong, not moving out if you get a lightning debuff, getting marked by slimes and not kiting &#8212; all can wipe the raid easily.</p>
<p>Artramades &#8211; moving wrong if you get chosen for the breath can cause serious problems.</p>
<p>Ascendant Council &#8211; lightning rod debuff, inappropriately DPSing your boss and pushing a phase change</p>
<p>Valiona / Theralion &#8211; can kill other ranged with the magic debuff if you don&#8217;t get clear</p>
<p>Chimaeron &#8211; can kill other people by getting within 6 yards or by not stacking appropriately during Feud</p>
<p>Al&#8217;akir &#8211; could wipe people by chaining lightning inappropriately or DPSing the adds down too fast.</p>
<p>Now none of these are THAT hard not to do. But the fact that your post just glosses over them shows that you&#8217;ve got a good base level of skill.</p>
<p>Also, there aren&#8217;t THAT many tank fights that are a &#8220;hard&#8221; skill check in normal modes. Believe me, if you went on your druid (assuming your gear was decent), you would have absolutely no problems with: Magmaw, Artramades, Chimaeron (likely), Maloriak, Halfus, Twin Dragons, and Cho&#8217;gall (gear could be more of a problem on Cho&#8217;gall). Honestly, one of the biggest changes I&#8217;ve seen from normal mode LK raiding -&gt; normal mode Cata raiding is that it&#8217;s <em>much</em> harder to carry bad DPS in Cataclysm raiding. Groups where everyone is a solid player will make progress pretty quickly. Groups that are 30% deadweight are totally hosed.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re getting a chance to raid, even if it&#8217;s casual / on the side. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Cowsareus</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55393</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowsareus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 07:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gratz Bear !!! Nice to see you doing raids. And well done to your guild ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gratz Bear !!! Nice to see you doing raids. And well done to your guild ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tex</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55377</link>
		<dc:creator>Tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 02:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s awesome, man. Nice to see you raiding BM too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome, man. Nice to see you raiding BM too.</p>
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		<title>By: Lierthes</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/05/15/double-rainbow-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-55375</link>
		<dc:creator>Lierthes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way BBB, if you&#039;re interested in seeing our very first Cho&#039;Gall kill, we have a video of it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIpqO3vGzs4&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;hd=1

If you put the quality up to 720p, you can put it into full screen without it looking too horrible :)

-Lier]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way BBB, if you&#8217;re interested in seeing our very first Cho&#8217;Gall kill, we have a video of it up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIpqO3vGzs4&#038;feature=youtu.be&#038;hd=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIpqO3vGzs4&#038;feature=youtu.be&#038;hd=1</a></p>
<p>If you put the quality up to 720p, you can put it into full screen without it looking too horrible :)</p>
<p>-Lier</p>
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