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	<description>Feral Druids in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: dub</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2011/12/05/old-adventures-in-new-instances/comment-page-1/#comment-62420</link>
		<dc:creator>dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit, that after trying out the trollics a few times I was glad to see the new instances were not the same.  I too had been getting all of my valor lately from doing the Firelands raid.  I actually enjoyed it more than most of the heroics and found it easier and less frustrating than trollics.  
    
So far I don&#039;t find the new 4.3 content too easy.  I assume thats because I&#039;m not all that hardcore.  I guess the experience is a mix of circumstances, some out of your control, that make the experience hard, easy, fun or not fun to play.  I have grouped with both ass-hats and nice people in the new stuff.  I don&#039;t think it is that possible to get away from on any server if you PUG, maybe on an RP server.  My goal is generally just to finish the storyline and see the content so I&#039;m not really in a hurry and I tend to try and group with guildies as much as possible. 
I have only played WOW since the end of BC but I am still finding things that I didn&#039;t know existed in the world.  Ive only have two 85&#039;s and the next closest in level is 67, the rest are way are below that.  I assume thats part of why I still find a lot of fun in the game.
The other thing is that I still find things to occupy my limited play time when I am not raiding.  Whether its pet/mount hunting, leveling an alt, gathering materials or leveling up crafting skills, I never really run out of things to do so I&#039;m not too concerned myself about wearing out the content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, that after trying out the trollics a few times I was glad to see the new instances were not the same.  I too had been getting all of my valor lately from doing the Firelands raid.  I actually enjoyed it more than most of the heroics and found it easier and less frustrating than trollics.  </p>
<p>So far I don&#8217;t find the new 4.3 content too easy.  I assume thats because I&#8217;m not all that hardcore.  I guess the experience is a mix of circumstances, some out of your control, that make the experience hard, easy, fun or not fun to play.  I have grouped with both ass-hats and nice people in the new stuff.  I don&#8217;t think it is that possible to get away from on any server if you PUG, maybe on an RP server.  My goal is generally just to finish the storyline and see the content so I&#8217;m not really in a hurry and I tend to try and group with guildies as much as possible.<br />
I have only played WOW since the end of BC but I am still finding things that I didn&#8217;t know existed in the world.  Ive only have two 85&#8242;s and the next closest in level is 67, the rest are way are below that.  I assume thats part of why I still find a lot of fun in the game.<br />
The other thing is that I still find things to occupy my limited play time when I am not raiding.  Whether its pet/mount hunting, leveling an alt, gathering materials or leveling up crafting skills, I never really run out of things to do so I&#8217;m not too concerned myself about wearing out the content.</p>
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		<title>By: Thelandira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thelandira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, the new 5 mans are a lot of fun. I&#039;ve only been in the first two, but have had a blast none the less...even when my first step into them was as tank on my DK (whom I haven&#039;t used as a tank in forever and was a bit rusty). I can&#039;t wait to see what the third one has to offer.

I&#039;ve even dusted off a few alts to get them geared enough to run the new 5 mans. The only thing I wish is that Blizz didn&#039;t put the Zulroics in with the reg-roics. I would love to bypass them altogether because they still suck for pugs. I don&#039;t get to play often during the time frames that most of my guildies are on. So puggin&#039; is my only option. Every time I que up I keep my fingers crossed that it won&#039;t be a Zulroic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the new 5 mans are a lot of fun. I&#8217;ve only been in the first two, but have had a blast none the less&#8230;even when my first step into them was as tank on my DK (whom I haven&#8217;t used as a tank in forever and was a bit rusty). I can&#8217;t wait to see what the third one has to offer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even dusted off a few alts to get them geared enough to run the new 5 mans. The only thing I wish is that Blizz didn&#8217;t put the Zulroics in with the reg-roics. I would love to bypass them altogether because they still suck for pugs. I don&#8217;t get to play often during the time frames that most of my guildies are on. So puggin&#8217; is my only option. Every time I que up I keep my fingers crossed that it won&#8217;t be a Zulroic.</p>
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		<title>By: BR</title>
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		<dc:creator>BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, I haven&#039;t had this much fun since WotLK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, I haven&#8217;t had this much fun since WotLK.</p>
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		<title>By: syggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>syggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nah, I wasn&#039;t worry. Because you would have said something indicating it was boogered up or deleted the post - you are that kind of person. :D   

As far as the new dungeons. still havent made it to Cata yet.  lvl 81 is still too low.  But glad to hear they are fun, quick and much improvement has been made.  Now if the older content (BE&#039;s, Space Goats and instances) would be worked on, brought up to the new standards and released as patches...  well one can dream.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah, I wasn&#8217;t worry. Because you would have said something indicating it was boogered up or deleted the post &#8211; you are that kind of person. :D   </p>
<p>As far as the new dungeons. still havent made it to Cata yet.  lvl 81 is still too low.  But glad to hear they are fun, quick and much improvement has been made.  Now if the older content (BE&#8217;s, Space Goats and instances) would be worked on, brought up to the new standards and released as patches&#8230;  well one can dream.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Reliquary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reliquary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always use the lul period after the last content patch and once the Raid is on farm to level my alts. During WotLK I leveled 90% of my existing alts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always use the lul period after the last content patch and once the Raid is on farm to level my alts. During WotLK I leveled 90% of my existing alts.</p>
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		<title>By: Zy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran the Zulroics once.  On my main.  And never set foot into them again. Thankfully I got all my VP by raiding cause I would&#039;ve chosen not capping my VP over doing the Zulroics.  All my alts at level cap languished.

The Dragon Soul 5 mans? I ran them on my main.  Then I ran them again because I&#039;m traveling in Norway and can&#039;t raid this week. I&#039;ll probably cap my weekly VP just thru the random 5 mans for the first time in months, if not this entire expansion.  Then you know what? The next day I got on my horde mage and ran them. All three of them. I was sure she wouldn&#039;t get in since she was almost entirely in blue gear but she did and the runs went smoothly.  Then I got on another alt and ran the first one again.  Fourth time in a week! AND HAD FUN. I can&#039;t wait to finish leveling my priest because I finally have something to look forward to. The priest is going to get geared and I can&#039;t tell you how happy I am to be playing my alts again. The dungeons aren&#039;t painful and punishing.  You can absolutely wipe (especially on trash!) but the fights are pretty darn cool, I especially loved Murozond and Benedictus. Jaina and Sylvanis? Fun.

I can see both sides of the arguments for the new dungeons but I have to admit which side I come down on.  I know very few folks that like the Zulroics at all so the fact that large numbers of people are having fun in Dragon Soul says quite a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran the Zulroics once.  On my main.  And never set foot into them again. Thankfully I got all my VP by raiding cause I would&#8217;ve chosen not capping my VP over doing the Zulroics.  All my alts at level cap languished.</p>
<p>The Dragon Soul 5 mans? I ran them on my main.  Then I ran them again because I&#8217;m traveling in Norway and can&#8217;t raid this week. I&#8217;ll probably cap my weekly VP just thru the random 5 mans for the first time in months, if not this entire expansion.  Then you know what? The next day I got on my horde mage and ran them. All three of them. I was sure she wouldn&#8217;t get in since she was almost entirely in blue gear but she did and the runs went smoothly.  Then I got on another alt and ran the first one again.  Fourth time in a week! AND HAD FUN. I can&#8217;t wait to finish leveling my priest because I finally have something to look forward to. The priest is going to get geared and I can&#8217;t tell you how happy I am to be playing my alts again. The dungeons aren&#8217;t painful and punishing.  You can absolutely wipe (especially on trash!) but the fights are pretty darn cool, I especially loved Murozond and Benedictus. Jaina and Sylvanis? Fun.</p>
<p>I can see both sides of the arguments for the new dungeons but I have to admit which side I come down on.  I know very few folks that like the Zulroics at all so the fact that large numbers of people are having fun in Dragon Soul says quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Imakulata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imakulata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, let me see, the last time I had fun in dungeons was after patch 4.1 which was the last patch before 4.3 that introduced new ones. :-) Although this ones are shorter, the longest one so far took about a hour for me - Zulroics used to take 40-50 minutes at least even at the end of 4.2.

As to whether they will become boring, sure they will - but I agree it&#039;s important to enjoy what we have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, let me see, the last time I had fun in dungeons was after patch 4.1 which was the last patch before 4.3 that introduced new ones. :-) Although this ones are shorter, the longest one so far took about a hour for me &#8211; Zulroics used to take 40-50 minutes at least even at the end of 4.2.</p>
<p>As to whether they will become boring, sure they will &#8211; but I agree it&#8217;s important to enjoy what we have.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ely! I know what you&#039;ve been up to, haven&#039;t you seen I have your blog on my feedreader? It&#039;s linked right there on the corner of my website. :) As usual, you are teh aw3some.

Well, I&#039;ll certainly admit that the go go go crowd is still out there, and i&#039;ve seen some real idiots, as usual. 

If you are just coming back for a bit before SWTOR comes out, though, I&#039;d seriously recommend running with friends in &#039;em until you get geared out all OP. I&#039;m hearing that 40k is the new 20k OP level of DPS. 

You know, those of us that thought our 20k was all that and a bag of chips are finding out it isn&#039;t so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ely! I know what you&#8217;ve been up to, haven&#8217;t you seen I have your blog on my feedreader? It&#8217;s linked right there on the corner of my website. :) As usual, you are teh aw3some.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ll certainly admit that the go go go crowd is still out there, and i&#8217;ve seen some real idiots, as usual. </p>
<p>If you are just coming back for a bit before SWTOR comes out, though, I&#8217;d seriously recommend running with friends in &#8216;em until you get geared out all OP. I&#8217;m hearing that 40k is the new 20k OP level of DPS. </p>
<p>You know, those of us that thought our 20k was all that and a bag of chips are finding out it isn&#8217;t so.</p>
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		<title>By: Ely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the new instances are fun but maybe I&#039;m seeing different peeps than you Bear. I was getting kicked for having low dps for my first time in them and this is after not playing for about 3 months. (Going to school didn&#039;t want to take time from my course as I was not sure how hard the classes would be ) I hate getting snarked on for not playing, :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the new instances are fun but maybe I&#8217;m seeing different peeps than you Bear. I was getting kicked for having low dps for my first time in them and this is after not playing for about 3 months. (Going to school didn&#8217;t want to take time from my course as I was not sure how hard the classes would be ) I hate getting snarked on for not playing, :(</p>
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		<title>By: All the wrong reasons &#171; int i;</title>
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		<dc:creator>All the wrong reasons &#171; int i;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 09:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This bear has the right of it. The new instances are&#8230; fun! And it&#8217;s fun seeing the points and gear rack up in a single evening! Not having to spend an entire day&#8217;s playtime for a measly 140 valour and maybe a maelstrom is awesome! [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This bear has the right of it. The new instances are&#8230; fun! And it&#8217;s fun seeing the points and gear rack up in a single evening! Not having to spend an entire day&#8217;s playtime for a measly 140 valour and maybe a maelstrom is awesome! [...]</p>
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