When I started running LFR, I didn’t realise I was going to end up on Let’s Make a Deal.
I still like running Dragon Soul on the LFR, but then I’m one of those kooks that likes running raid content even when there aren’t any carrots to chase after. I like running content for the sake of the experience, and hey, I know there are quite a few others out there that feel the same. Where my kooks at?
Those of us that like going for the fun of it with no loot drops in mind are definitely in the minority.
Is there any question that a huge part of the draw of running any kind of content is to chase after a ’drop’?
The drop is the carrot, and hasn’t it been amazing to see how quickly the old content got revived once transmog gave us a purpose to chasing those drops beyond base stats?
I’ve even seen people complain, and isn’t this hilarious, complain that the old raids like Black Temple aren’t available for level 85 cross-realm LFR.
Umm, as long as we’re on that topic… add my name to the list of people that would like to queue for BT at level 85.
Yep, that good ol’ carrot works just fine. Getting more life out of old content to help extend the game… well played, Blizzard.
Let’s move past all that.
Dragon Soul LFR, a place where we can go to get some Valor Points, and some decent gear, and kill us some internet dragons.
Anyone else notice that the new standard of loot behavior is to roll on everything whether you need it or not, and then later on when that ONE thing you wanted drops, start offering the shit you won earlier in trade?
If you ever wanted to see an example of the term ‘short-sighted’, there you go.
“Well gee, it sure is hard to get that one drop, so I know! I’ve got a bright idea. I’ll roll on everything, and then when what I drops I’ll have something to offer as trade!”
Which would be a fine strategy if you were the only one to start doing that. But when it turns out that wasn’t such an original thought, when everyone else sees what you’re doing and figures that is how they have to play to have a fair shot… then instead of having an advantage, now everyone has the exact same chance of being the random winner, no matter how many times the loot has dropped or been won in the past.
The competition never gets less.
It seemed so simple when the LFR was released, didn’t it?
You go into LFR those first few weeks, and everyone rolls on everything because they need everything.
Then, NEXT week the folks who won last time won’t roll on those items again so the folks that are left have a better shot. Right?
If you assume that would remain constant, then over time, most people would have most drops, would be queueing in the hopes of getting just one or two pieces and passing on the rest, and that would mean a greater chance to win SOMETHING for those who are left.
Assumptions… as Samuel L. Jackson once said, they make an ass out of u and umption.
It made sense, until you factor such real life modifiers as folks that have lots of alts that all have to get cycled through, and folks that started new characters and raced them up to level cap (not that I would know anything about that), and other reasons for a continuous influx of characters needing every drop.
Well, still. As the months roll by, we should certainly expect our favorite character that is steadfastly plugging away, week after week, to see the chances improve for a drop, right? Sooner or later Hagara will drop those shoulders, and this time it’ll be YOUR turn.
Instead, as people get almost everything they want out of LFR, they now roll on everything they’ve already got or can’t even use just to have trade goods for barter later in the run.
Or maybe those hunters really can use Expertise on their rings. Who am I to judge?
There is only one way for the community to fix this. People have to start rolling ONLY on the item drops that they can actually use, and stop trying to play Let’s Make a Deal.
So, everybody just start doing that, mmmkay?
Well, maybe Blizzard will just fix it!
The existence of dual-spec and multiple roles for one character with different gearing choices makes this a tough design situation.
The LFR loot system had been setup to allow one lucky bastard to win two of the exact same thing off one boss. Blizzard fixed that, not because Blizzard did not want one person to have two of those items, but because Blizzard did not feel one person should get two all at the same time.
Will there ever be a change so that, if your character has won that item once already, they cannot ever win it again?
I can’t possibly imagine it.
What happens if you were a tank, you started building a tank set, and then decided you were switching to DPS? Are you just screwed then, because you chose the tank versions of two LFR pieces before deciding to switch, so tough luck?
It could go either way, but I find it highly unlikely that Blizzard would ever do that.
Blizzard does expect us to fend for ourselves. They do say, if you don’t like the way loot worked out this time, run it again next week. If you don’t like how your fellow players roll on loot, then don’t play with them.
So where does that leave us as the weeks pass, and there is no new content on the horizon to replace Dragon Soul LFR?
There has to come some point where people finally DO have everything they want from LFR, on every character they have, and will stop rolling need on everything. Right?
Of course, if someone doesn’t want anything from LFR anymore… why would they run it again?
I still like running Dragon Soul LFR, but I’m now running it more to see how people behave and what they’ll do next than anything else.
The last run I did, I ran on my Rogue. I came into the second half of DS LFR on Spine of Deathwing, fought hard and won the Wrath of Unchaining, a great trinket.
I had no less than three whispers from people in the raid offering to trade me a previous loot drop from the raid for the trinket, apparently not realising that I had been a mid-season switch hitter.
I inspected their equipped gear, and of the three, ALL THREE already had the pieces of Tier armor they were offering me equipped.
I turned them down, and do you know, when Deathwing finally fell, not a one of them spoke up at the end of the run to say they had a piece of Tier they couldn’t use, and to offer it up to a roll.
Maybe they just traded their pieces on their own via whispers, maybe not. I know there are a lot of folks out there that would never dream of shananigans like this, and I know one guy that, just out of the blue a few weeks ago, whispered me to say they had won a piece of gear they hadn’t realized they already had, and since I was the second lowest roll, they gave it to me.
The point remains… I don’t see how Blizzard will find a way to regulate loot drop courtesy for us, and does anyone really expect the ‘community’ to act responsibly as a group?
Maybe it will. Who am I to say? And maybe bears will be able to fly, too!
I know for myself, I’ll be expecting Blizzard to add winged bears before I’ll see people say, “I won’t roll, I already have one.”