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	<title>Comments on: NO, I guess I won&#8217;t be getting a motorcycle</title>
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		<title>By: HiredGun</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/06/01/no-i-guess-i-wont-be-getting-a-motorcycle/comment-page-1/#comment-72593</link>
		<dc:creator>HiredGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man - BBB - I feel your pain - I actually grinded up engineering to max-Wrath on an alt to do 2x FL skinning per week to hope to offset some of the costs of the 2-person bike in hopes I could have it available pre-cata - so all my toons (10 @ lvl 85) could use it.  That, combined with the hopes that all my toons could use the vendor-mount to unload junk while leveling, and have access to a portable repair station are dashed as well... ugg...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man &#8211; BBB &#8211; I feel your pain &#8211; I actually grinded up engineering to max-Wrath on an alt to do 2x FL skinning per week to hope to offset some of the costs of the 2-person bike in hopes I could have it available pre-cata &#8211; so all my toons (10 @ lvl 85) could use it.  That, combined with the hopes that all my toons could use the vendor-mount to unload junk while leveling, and have access to a portable repair station are dashed as well&#8230; ugg&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/06/01/no-i-guess-i-wont-be-getting-a-motorcycle/comment-page-1/#comment-72550</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL! I tried it in the beta, and I thought it was pretty good, but WoW drew me back in. I have never been against SWTOR, just felt that it didn&#039;t grip me in the same way. 

I can see a day where it is polished up and a fine tooled machine, and WoW is left to die because Blizzard&#039;s new MMO is finally ready to blow.

I&#039;ll be totally honest, though.

If Blizzard&#039;s new MMO codenamed &quot;Titan&quot; turns out to be World of Starcraft, and I can play an MMO as a Space Marine/Terran, I&#039;m probably gonna be on board with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! I tried it in the beta, and I thought it was pretty good, but WoW drew me back in. I have never been against SWTOR, just felt that it didn&#8217;t grip me in the same way. </p>
<p>I can see a day where it is polished up and a fine tooled machine, and WoW is left to die because Blizzard&#8217;s new MMO is finally ready to blow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be totally honest, though.</p>
<p>If Blizzard&#8217;s new MMO codenamed &#8220;Titan&#8221; turns out to be World of Starcraft, and I can play an MMO as a Space Marine/Terran, I&#8217;m probably gonna be on board with that.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/06/01/no-i-guess-i-wont-be-getting-a-motorcycle/comment-page-1/#comment-72549</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you, and many other points in the comments, but I will say, on the X-53, I&#039;m pretty sure they are retiring it to bring out something new. They once had the Zhevra mount, which my Shaman on another server has, and then they retired it to bring out the X-53, which my Hunter has now. So I believe there will be something new on the horizon. I also expect it will not be account shared. If they shared it, where would the incentive be to bring in more than one friend? Or was that too cynical of me. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, and many other points in the comments, but I will say, on the X-53, I&#8217;m pretty sure they are retiring it to bring out something new. They once had the Zhevra mount, which my Shaman on another server has, and then they retired it to bring out the X-53, which my Hunter has now. So I believe there will be something new on the horizon. I also expect it will not be account shared. If they shared it, where would the incentive be to bring in more than one friend? Or was that too cynical of me. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, considering the scope of it - *all* the other mounts will be shared, where once they were not - it&#039;s still pretty super. Besides, do you really need all your mounts on all your toons? Sure, it&#039;s fun, but what are the likely implications for you in terms of how you play?

I see this as an unexpected awesome thing that we had no reason to expect. A gift horse (hahaha). Sure, it&#039;s not quite as comprehensively cool, but there&#039;s still much cause for celebration - kinda like when you were a kid hoping for an NES for Christmas, and even though you were hoping for the one that came with R.O.B. the Robot, you still got one that came with the zapper. And they only ever made 2 games for R.O.B. anyway. 

Point being, it&#039;s pretty awesome, and the fun of being a passenger kinda wanes after a minute or so. And there&#039;s the flippin&#039; Druid glyph! Perspective. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, considering the scope of it &#8211; *all* the other mounts will be shared, where once they were not &#8211; it&#8217;s still pretty super. Besides, do you really need all your mounts on all your toons? Sure, it&#8217;s fun, but what are the likely implications for you in terms of how you play?</p>
<p>I see this as an unexpected awesome thing that we had no reason to expect. A gift horse (hahaha). Sure, it&#8217;s not quite as comprehensively cool, but there&#8217;s still much cause for celebration &#8211; kinda like when you were a kid hoping for an NES for Christmas, and even though you were hoping for the one that came with R.O.B. the Robot, you still got one that came with the zapper. And they only ever made 2 games for R.O.B. anyway. </p>
<p>Point being, it&#8217;s pretty awesome, and the fun of being a passenger kinda wanes after a minute or so. And there&#8217;s the flippin&#8217; Druid glyph! Perspective. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Morrighan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morrighan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with the bear on this one.  In fact, there is less of an arguement for gold sink and profession made mounts than there is for rep based mounts, which it seems are account wide.

Re: profession based mounts.  Keeping them not account wide will reduce income from these mounts, not increase it. There is no way I could be bothered to farm an Chopper on all my toons, and I change toons a lot so that means I won&#039;t bother at all.  If it was account wide, I would bother because I would have it no matter what my main is.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m far from being alone in this approach.

Re: gold sinks.  Its the same thing.  Of the list the only one I have is the Tundra Mammoth.  I would never bother buying another one of these mounts because when I change my toon, it will be a case of pay the cash again, or not have the mount.  If they were account wide I would farm all of them, so all my toons have them.

Those mounts seem strange in a world of cross-account achievements.  In fact, I don&#039;t see a reason to make ANY mount not account wide, because someone can always roll an alt to get it.  If the point is that we are trying to represent what the player has done, rather than the toon (which is what account-wide features do) then why have any restrictions? The only reasonable restriction is that you don&#039;t want to force people to roll alts to get achievements, which supports making class-specific mounts, mounts limited to one profession and Horde/Alliance mounts non-account bound.  But I can&#039;t think of any good reason beyond that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the bear on this one.  In fact, there is less of an arguement for gold sink and profession made mounts than there is for rep based mounts, which it seems are account wide.</p>
<p>Re: profession based mounts.  Keeping them not account wide will reduce income from these mounts, not increase it. There is no way I could be bothered to farm an Chopper on all my toons, and I change toons a lot so that means I won&#8217;t bother at all.  If it was account wide, I would bother because I would have it no matter what my main is.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m far from being alone in this approach.</p>
<p>Re: gold sinks.  Its the same thing.  Of the list the only one I have is the Tundra Mammoth.  I would never bother buying another one of these mounts because when I change my toon, it will be a case of pay the cash again, or not have the mount.  If they were account wide I would farm all of them, so all my toons have them.</p>
<p>Those mounts seem strange in a world of cross-account achievements.  In fact, I don&#8217;t see a reason to make ANY mount not account wide, because someone can always roll an alt to get it.  If the point is that we are trying to represent what the player has done, rather than the toon (which is what account-wide features do) then why have any restrictions? The only reasonable restriction is that you don&#8217;t want to force people to roll alts to get achievements, which supports making class-specific mounts, mounts limited to one profession and Horde/Alliance mounts non-account bound.  But I can&#8217;t think of any good reason beyond that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadaard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t seen this until I read your post.  I have to say, I&#039;m with you.  As an avid mount collector, I was hugely thrilled that everything I&#039;d put the time and effort into collecting would be available across all of my characters.  I expected that some of the class- and profession-specific mounts (paladin warhorse, warlock dreadsteed/felsteed, DK deathcharger, engineer flying machines, tailoring carpets) would be restricted to relevant characters.  Not a big deal, that&#039;s part of the flavor of those classes and professions.  Now, seeing those restrictions, I&#039;m very disappointed.  This seems like a real break with the &quot;play the character you want, because all of your achievements/mounts/pets are shared&quot; theme that Blizzard had going.  I suppose you could even say that the gladiator (PvP) mounts (and I don&#039;t have any of them) are so special that they should be restricted to the character you earned it on, like the accompanying title.  But why is the Argent Warhorse restricted?  None of the other Argent Tournament mounts are.  (And I don&#039;t accept the argument that it&#039;s because there are separate Horde/Alliance versions.  If you faction change, stuff like mounts, titles, and gear converts over to their equivalents.  So it&#039;s clearly possible.)  That just seems arbitrary.

Having a multi-person mount is ridiculously handy.  I use mine on a daily basis to do stuff with friends.  (My dream mount is something like a gigantic war kodo that holds an entire party of 5 people.)  Oh, did I mention they&#039;re phasing out the X-53 Touring Rocket?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen this until I read your post.  I have to say, I&#8217;m with you.  As an avid mount collector, I was hugely thrilled that everything I&#8217;d put the time and effort into collecting would be available across all of my characters.  I expected that some of the class- and profession-specific mounts (paladin warhorse, warlock dreadsteed/felsteed, DK deathcharger, engineer flying machines, tailoring carpets) would be restricted to relevant characters.  Not a big deal, that&#8217;s part of the flavor of those classes and professions.  Now, seeing those restrictions, I&#8217;m very disappointed.  This seems like a real break with the &#8220;play the character you want, because all of your achievements/mounts/pets are shared&#8221; theme that Blizzard had going.  I suppose you could even say that the gladiator (PvP) mounts (and I don&#8217;t have any of them) are so special that they should be restricted to the character you earned it on, like the accompanying title.  But why is the Argent Warhorse restricted?  None of the other Argent Tournament mounts are.  (And I don&#8217;t accept the argument that it&#8217;s because there are separate Horde/Alliance versions.  If you faction change, stuff like mounts, titles, and gear converts over to their equivalents.  So it&#8217;s clearly possible.)  That just seems arbitrary.</p>
<p>Having a multi-person mount is ridiculously handy.  I use mine on a daily basis to do stuff with friends.  (My dream mount is something like a gigantic war kodo that holds an entire party of 5 people.)  Oh, did I mention they&#8217;re phasing out the X-53 Touring Rocket?</p>
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		<title>By: Morphster</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/06/01/no-i-guess-i-wont-be-getting-a-motorcycle/comment-page-1/#comment-72508</link>
		<dc:creator>Morphster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long-time reader, occasional poster and all-around bacon fanboy. I left WoW in May 2011 and in the infrequent and brief moments when I miss what I enjoyed about WoW, all I have to remember are 4 syllables &quot;kung-fu panda&quot;. :) I&#039;ve been playing SWTOR for about 5 months now and the next big patch is finally supposed to include a party finder. Consequently, if you decide not to buy multiple new WoW expansions you are timing a SWTOR transition perfectly because the majority of the rough edges in TOR have either been fixed or will be remedied shortly. There aren&#039;t any bears unfortunately, but the biggest male body size does have a rather large posterior and might live up to the big butt legacy. Just my 2 coppers :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-time reader, occasional poster and all-around bacon fanboy. I left WoW in May 2011 and in the infrequent and brief moments when I miss what I enjoyed about WoW, all I have to remember are 4 syllables &#8220;kung-fu panda&#8221;. :) I&#8217;ve been playing SWTOR for about 5 months now and the next big patch is finally supposed to include a party finder. Consequently, if you decide not to buy multiple new WoW expansions you are timing a SWTOR transition perfectly because the majority of the rough edges in TOR have either been fixed or will be remedied shortly. There aren&#8217;t any bears unfortunately, but the biggest male body size does have a rather large posterior and might live up to the big butt legacy. Just my 2 coppers :)</p>
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		<title>By: Beshara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beshara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was disappointed to see the chopper not account bound, and the mammoth. I would think that more people would save up and buy those mounts if they were account bound. Also, for those who may want to change to monk as their main, would have to buy them all over again to have them on their main. I do hope they change it so they are account bound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disappointed to see the chopper not account bound, and the mammoth. I would think that more people would save up and buy those mounts if they were account bound. Also, for those who may want to change to monk as their main, would have to buy them all over again to have them on their main. I do hope they change it so they are account bound.</p>
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		<title>By: Reliquary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reliquary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s why I don&#039;t get excited and just see what&#039;s going to happen. I&#039;ll look into a new feature and be like that&#039;s going to be cool, but don&#039;t get overly excited until I actually have it in game to experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t get excited and just see what&#8217;s going to happen. I&#8217;ll look into a new feature and be like that&#8217;s going to be cool, but don&#8217;t get overly excited until I actually have it in game to experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Pawzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pawzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m also royally pissed off about the motorbikes.  I busted my butt on my engineer alt to make bikes for myself and my friend.  Initially, before this announcement, I was excited that my alts too, could zoom around like biker chicks.  Gold is NOT one of my worries, considering that my enchanter and JC keep my stable of alts spoiled rotten in gold from the AH.  

I&#039;m just.. not happy. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also royally pissed off about the motorbikes.  I busted my butt on my engineer alt to make bikes for myself and my friend.  Initially, before this announcement, I was excited that my alts too, could zoom around like biker chicks.  Gold is NOT one of my worries, considering that my enchanter and JC keep my stable of alts spoiled rotten in gold from the AH.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just.. not happy. :(</p>
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