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		<title>By: Katzbalger</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/08/11/the-cub-report-tanking-aar/comment-page-1/#comment-77072</link>
		<dc:creator>Katzbalger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just regarding Alex wanting the conquest gear, as you know 5.0 is coming out on the 28th of this month, that will also be the last day of the current PVP season and all conquest gear will be sold for honor after that, conquest will be turned into honor (with no cap, so it doesn&#039;t matter if that takes you over 4k, won&#039;t lose any) so it should be nice and easy for him to get then, plus try taking him through a couple of BH runs in the meantime for a chance at some pvp drops ;-)

Regarding the tanking philosophy....I agree but with reservations. I feel bad if someone dies and it&#039;s my fault, however if it&#039;s theirs I&#039;ll try to save them and tell them what they did wrong the first couple of times, but if they keep doing the same thing, whether it&#039;s charging in ahead of me, aoe&#039;ing adds before I&#039;ve swiped/thunderclapped or whatever, I&#039;ll generally let them die the next time they do it for educational purposes. Sometimes, people just won&#039;t or can&#039;t learn without the incentive of consequences, I think that continually bailing people out doesn&#039;t help them in the long run. It&#039;s kinda like parenting, you set a good example, tell the kids what not to do, but if they get away with doing something every time without punishment, they&#039;re likely to keep doing it and someday you might not be around to save them from it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just regarding Alex wanting the conquest gear, as you know 5.0 is coming out on the 28th of this month, that will also be the last day of the current PVP season and all conquest gear will be sold for honor after that, conquest will be turned into honor (with no cap, so it doesn&#8217;t matter if that takes you over 4k, won&#8217;t lose any) so it should be nice and easy for him to get then, plus try taking him through a couple of BH runs in the meantime for a chance at some pvp drops ;-)</p>
<p>Regarding the tanking philosophy&#8230;.I agree but with reservations. I feel bad if someone dies and it&#8217;s my fault, however if it&#8217;s theirs I&#8217;ll try to save them and tell them what they did wrong the first couple of times, but if they keep doing the same thing, whether it&#8217;s charging in ahead of me, aoe&#8217;ing adds before I&#8217;ve swiped/thunderclapped or whatever, I&#8217;ll generally let them die the next time they do it for educational purposes. Sometimes, people just won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t learn without the incentive of consequences, I think that continually bailing people out doesn&#8217;t help them in the long run. It&#8217;s kinda like parenting, you set a good example, tell the kids what not to do, but if they get away with doing something every time without punishment, they&#8217;re likely to keep doing it and someday you might not be around to save them from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have an epic son, man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have an epic son, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Suxxy</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/08/11/the-cub-report-tanking-aar/comment-page-1/#comment-76975</link>
		<dc:creator>Suxxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is good to hear about the exploits through new eyes, but it&#039;s also nice to run with old timers, too.
I&#039;m levelling (yet another) feral druid and was pug tanking The Old Kingdom. I went left to get to the first boss and the healer says:
  &lt;strong&gt;Havent gone this way in a few years lol almost forgot it was here&lt;/strong&gt;
I replied:
  &lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m old school&lt;/strong&gt;
After that boss, down the stairs at the 3-pull I did LOS, like I always have. Again the healer:
  &lt;strong&gt;Now im getting teary eyed an LOS pull even lol&lt;/strong&gt;
One of the dps asked:
  &lt;strong&gt;What?&lt;/strong&gt;
The healer had to explain:
  &lt;strong&gt;Line Of Sight around the corner pull&lt;/strong&gt;
I had quite a chuckle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good to hear about the exploits through new eyes, but it&#8217;s also nice to run with old timers, too.<br />
I&#8217;m levelling (yet another) feral druid and was pug tanking The Old Kingdom. I went left to get to the first boss and the healer says:<br />
  <strong>Havent gone this way in a few years lol almost forgot it was here</strong><br />
I replied:<br />
  <strong>I&#8217;m old school</strong><br />
After that boss, down the stairs at the 3-pull I did LOS, like I always have. Again the healer:<br />
  <strong>Now im getting teary eyed an LOS pull even lol</strong><br />
One of the dps asked:<br />
  <strong>What?</strong><br />
The healer had to explain:<br />
  <strong>Line Of Sight around the corner pull</strong><br />
I had quite a chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: Cris</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/08/11/the-cub-report-tanking-aar/comment-page-1/#comment-76937</link>
		<dc:creator>Cris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BBB,

I think it&#039;s time to post of photo of Alex while playing. If it&#039;s fine with you.

Great post!

Cris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBB,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s time to post of photo of Alex while playing. If it&#8217;s fine with you.</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
<p>Cris</p>
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		<title>By: Kemonojin</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/08/11/the-cub-report-tanking-aar/comment-page-1/#comment-76921</link>
		<dc:creator>Kemonojin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...elephants? 

Heh. Another one I&#039;d missed. One thing I really regret about the game... sometimes there are really cool things to look at in dungeons, but people are in so much of a hurry you don&#039;t get the chance to look at them...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;elephants? </p>
<p>Heh. Another one I&#8217;d missed. One thing I really regret about the game&#8230; sometimes there are really cool things to look at in dungeons, but people are in so much of a hurry you don&#8217;t get the chance to look at them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</title>
		<link>http://thebigbearbutt.com/2012/08/11/the-cub-report-tanking-aar/comment-page-1/#comment-76919</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellifain @ Khaz'Goroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.
As a MT since 2.1 I have an inbuilt desire for everyone to survive a run.  If people die then I feel bad - unless the person is a complete and utter jerk.
Often I&#039;ll find myself automatically moving the boss, just so an unobservant melee dps&#039;er can no longer stand in a pool of bad green stuff behind the boss.

The cub has a good future ahead of him :o)
Ellifain @ Khaz&#039;Goroth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.<br />
As a MT since 2.1 I have an inbuilt desire for everyone to survive a run.  If people die then I feel bad &#8211; unless the person is a complete and utter jerk.<br />
Often I&#8217;ll find myself automatically moving the boss, just so an unobservant melee dps&#8217;er can no longer stand in a pool of bad green stuff behind the boss.</p>
<p>The cub has a good future ahead of him :o)<br />
Ellifain @ Khaz&#8217;Goroth</p>
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		<title>By: Talarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have kids myself, but the cub reports always bring a smile to my face. As wonderful and magical as the world of Azeroth is, there&#039;s nothing quite as magical as seeing someone discover it for the first time, especially with someone young enough to be (mostly) untainted by genre expectations. I think these cub reports are the closest any of us will get to that sense of wonder we had the first time we wandered into Azeroth. We may never get it back, jaded veterans that we are, but Alex&#039;s point of view comes pretty close :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have kids myself, but the cub reports always bring a smile to my face. As wonderful and magical as the world of Azeroth is, there&#8217;s nothing quite as magical as seeing someone discover it for the first time, especially with someone young enough to be (mostly) untainted by genre expectations. I think these cub reports are the closest any of us will get to that sense of wonder we had the first time we wandered into Azeroth. We may never get it back, jaded veterans that we are, but Alex&#8217;s point of view comes pretty close :)</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;q&gt;I get to talk to quite a few people who tank, and a common feeling is that even when someone dies by standing in the fire, the frustration of the tank comes at least in part from wishing there was some way the tank could Leap of Faith or Thunderclap the bastard out of that fire and save them despite themselves.&lt;/q&gt;

Hence my sadness of the loss of Divine Guardian in MoP. 1 GCD that reduces everyone else&#039;s damage for a few seconds always made me happy as a tank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><q>I get to talk to quite a few people who tank, and a common feeling is that even when someone dies by standing in the fire, the frustration of the tank comes at least in part from wishing there was some way the tank could Leap of Faith or Thunderclap the bastard out of that fire and save them despite themselves.</q></p>
<p>Hence my sadness of the loss of Divine Guardian in MoP. 1 GCD that reduces everyone else&#8217;s damage for a few seconds always made me happy as a tank.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbearbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbearbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We were in Gundrak briefly last night, and as we faced off against Moorabi he started talking about how cool the elephant mural on the floor was, with the four big elephants and the ring of other elephants and stuff.

I was all, &quot;Huh? Oh yeah, that IS cool!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were in Gundrak briefly last night, and as we faced off against Moorabi he started talking about how cool the elephant mural on the floor was, with the four big elephants and the ring of other elephants and stuff.</p>
<p>I was all, &#8220;Huh? Oh yeah, that IS cool!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kemonojin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kemonojin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh. He&#039;s more observant than -I- am. I would have sworn that whatever showed out of the Violet Hold portals was random. The only one I can remember for sure is the one by the core hound and he&#039;s right, I&#039;ve never seen a group there now that I think of it. 

And you&#039;re right, to be a good tank you have to want to keep people alive in spite of their own stupidity. Shouldn&#039;t be hard to explain that gear does matter if that comes up, but he sounds like he may figure it out on his own. 

I wish I had tanks as good as this 9 (?) year old... and LFD people half as mature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. He&#8217;s more observant than -I- am. I would have sworn that whatever showed out of the Violet Hold portals was random. The only one I can remember for sure is the one by the core hound and he&#8217;s right, I&#8217;ve never seen a group there now that I think of it. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, to be a good tank you have to want to keep people alive in spite of their own stupidity. Shouldn&#8217;t be hard to explain that gear does matter if that comes up, but he sounds like he may figure it out on his own. </p>
<p>I wish I had tanks as good as this 9 (?) year old&#8230; and LFD people half as mature.</p>
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