Last Sunday the cross-realm group had a nice run through Firelands 25 in normal modes.

The goal was to have that one extra week to get more folks in to complete Firelands on normal before we hit achieves or Heroic modes, but we might have had an accidental achievement happen anyway.

Let’s just say that if you’re a bit sloppy on technique on phase three, the true achievement is in NOT having wall to wall meteors on the kill.

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There was another achievement earned during the run; it turns out Penguin is a master at guiding players through Lord Rhyolith, so we anti-Ambi-turned like champs.

That is going to do it for the normal 25 runs. From here on out, we’re doing Firelands heroics.

Next Sunday, 6 PM CST we’ll be going in and beginning Firelands 25 Heroic. If you would like to be a part, be sure to be online and ready for an invite.

I hope to see you there.

12 Responses to “Rolling Ragnar-O’s, Robin!”
  1. DeGei says:

    Hopefully I should make it this week, I again apologize for missing last Sunday. Several things added up to me just not being able to be logged on.

  2. erroll says:

    i think i see my dead body. on that screen shot :(
    I plan to be there if im invited.
    i have a question tho. seriosly. i used to tank icc. and i always had a dedicated healer.
    Do to my love of these fun runs, i have been workin my heal spec hard. doing alot of lfr.
    My first 3 lfrs. i made a huge mistake.
    I asked if im . main tank . off tank. or raid heals?
    i was called a moron. and asked if i know game.
    did i or did i not have a dedicated healer. who i marked and protected more then rest of grp when i tnked icc?
    and big quetion. is dedicated healer gone?or am i a moron who hasnt played game since start? or is it just lfr?
    Do real raids still have dedicated heals? or have heals gone route of the dps and there love of charts. most is best. dont matter if your tank dies?
    I am realy curios. in fun run i have gone from 2 dps out healing me to top 3.
    but i feel im playing the charts. and nobody doing there job
    Has game reall out grown the dedicated heals?
    i do plan to be there sunday. this week i learned to crack the heal charts( its mostly over heals)
    and i know how to crak the heal charts with my stacks and over heals. i feel like something misssing.
    On a buy note. if there an open spot like last week. and my gf not fightig with me. id like to invite her.
    Im very curios about the dedicated heal thing.

    • Rauxis says:

      LFR in my experience has no dedicated heals. I usually try to keep the tanks up, and only if I notice they stay alive without problems I switch to raid heals. Still my LB will always tick on a tank.

      Beyond this observation, my main impression is – there is almost always someone who wants to derail other people, more often than not for no real reason. As a healer – or also as a tank – grow a thick skin.

      sorry for bad news :(

      As for Sunday – I hope we can get the branch as well, I have now the “Delegation” quest

      Rauxis, chosen of CAT

      • Beshara says:

        Last time I healed in a raid it was more of a priority system. In 10 man, One healer focuses on this tank, one healer focuses on off tank, one healer focuses on the raid. But those roles weren’t set in stone. If the off tank wasn’t taking much damage, that healer would switch and help heal whoever was taking more damage. If the raid was doing fine but the main tank was taking a large amount of damage, the raid healer would help heal the main tank. It really depended on the fight and the healers you are playing with. In LFR, there is no system. I focus on tanks, but if I switch to the raid and the tanks don’t dip too low, I’ll stay on raid until the tanks need me again. I don’t expect any communication when I go into LFR like I expect from a planned 10 or 25 man group.

      • Theodoxus says:

        I’ve fallen in love with Disc healing (yeah, I know, nerf inc!) – but being able to full on DPS while keeping both tanks and raid healed with smart heals… awesome! I also heal with my druid and pretty much exactly as Rauxis says.

        LFR healing is pretty much a joke. Given the number of times I’ve been in raids where only 3 people are actually healing (offline, dead, queued as healer for speed, but dps’d for fun, etc) and we still manage to win with no problems? Yeah, LFR damage is WAY undertuned currently. Kinda nice, kinda boring… if you’re into that kind of thing.

    • Ngita says:

      Real raids have dedicated heals to a degree, in our 10 man on heavy tank damage we will assign a tank. In LFR just look for where looks weak, hint 90% of lfr healers will raid heal because it looks better on the meters,
      Knowing where the damage is likely to happen helps as well.

      • erroll says:

        ty all. i assumed they were shooting the meters i cracked top 3 in a bad set. just spaming heals nobody needed.
        I also occasionly healed icc. when needed.
        i was always assigned the off tank and raid were my mana could take it.
        that was in real raids before lfr. . when it was easier to pug if you knew your toon.
        were they still assigned heals. and dps jobs too
        Now i know it just Lfr and im not the idiot. i was accused of.
        Im now convinced. lfr would go so much smother. if people just comunicated. and asigned. jobs. isntead of just belittling the noob :(
        iv played since vanilla. and im still frequently the noob.
        i wonder how many potintial good players these ass holes have driven from.
        NOOB should never be an insult. They should be comunicated with. So they can enjoy a great game.
        hope too see you all on sunday. The fun runs highlite of my game atm :)

        • Goose Igaly says:

          Sadly, LFR is a terrible place to learn to heal; low damage, people standing in stuff, and the afore mentioned rudeness.

          That said, the answer to your question is yes and no. When I raided in ICC, we had a tank heal and I was raid heals. My job was simple: keep the raid alive. If the tank died, not my fault. Simple and harsh, but I had to rely on my other healer to do their job.

          Today’s raids are different. I’m not sure what caused the change, other than all healing classes being “equalized” with their healing spells. In my 10-man raid we 3-heal most fights, and we are all “floaters,” so to say. Most weeks our makeup is me on my druid, a shaman, and either a priest or monk. The Shaman and I have been healing together for over a year and work well together. I take one tank that I am wholely responsible for and the shaman takes the other. We assist each other if required, but our tanks are our own. From their, we all three cover the raid.

          Some fights only require two healers, so we both have our tank heals on the tank (Lifebloom for me), and we focus heavily on the raid. Between our combined heals on the tank, we mostly don’t have to worry about him. In fact, on Spirit Kings, We solo heal the first 1-minute as I use Heart of the Wild to contribute to raid DPS.

          Long answer short, the old roles that we were accustomed to have mostly faded. You may still be assigned to cover the tank, but you will be fully expected to assist with raid heals. From a healer standpoint today, if it has a health bar, you heal it (I’m speaking 10 mans, here).

          I do want to cover your discussion of the healing meters. I’m as bad as the next guy when it comes to loving my name being on top of Recount. However, there are a lot of things that go into be an excellent healer. Yes, sheer throughput has a lot to do with it, but just how much mana is one wasting trying to get that throughput? I’m not fussing at you here, just giving you some tools to analyze yourself; these are the tools I use to understand my own healing.

          Take overhealing: druids tend to have a lot of overhealing due to our HoTs and other healers sniping heals out from under us. That said, if you are running out of mana a lot during fights (especially in lower gear levels), look at the amount of overhealing done. Overheals are essentially wasted mana. Rejuv, lifebloom, and Wildgrowth will always show here, but what about Regrowth and Healing Touch? Those two spells should have very little over heal.

          Utilizing World of Logs to analyze spell uptimes will help you to understand areas to improve upon. Are you keeping your Lifebloom uptime high enough? Are you using your Clearclasting procs efficiently? Nature’s Swiftness if you have it?

          Cannot Be Tamed made an excellent guide to evaluating Restoration Druid healing with World of Logs. http://www.cannotbetamed.com/2013/01/02/evaluating-resto-druids-with-world-of-logs-2/

          Enjoy, good luck, and for BBB’s sake, don’t pay attention to people in LFR.

  3. Matty says:

    I am so glad you got that shot of the microwave oven. AWESOME! Dang, I’m still on my self-appointed break. I know I’m going to be leaning up against the glass 4PM Pacific Time whimpering!

  4. Minos says:

    Ragnar-Os: By Fiber Be Purged!

  5. Jake says:

    I’d be interested in coming. What do I have to do to be able to come?

  6. Jason says:

    Man, that was a blast, pun intended. I’ll be around and ready as ever.

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