Professions, Gathering revisited, and idle rambling

This will be a long post, because we’re in the middle of two holiday seasons here in the States, and that generally means people are sitting at work, over lunch, bored off their ass and waiting to go to New Years parties.

So I have three sections. I talk about Professions some more, I talk about Gathering techniques, and then I ramble on about readers.

I hope this provides you with some measure of distraction and enjoyment.

Yesterday, I spoke a bit about Professions.

My opening point was that everything you really want for PvE can be purchased somewhere, so you are free to choose Professions that you enjoy, Professions that excite you.

I approach my Professions, personally, as a means to both have fun, and to make useful stuffs for me and my friends. It also used to be a way for me to get advantages in playing my class in raids, but these days not so much. So while I absolutely appreciate that some folks look at your Professions strictly as a way to make money in the game, and I totally respect that, it’s not what I do. So you’re never going to get those protips here. There are plenty of other websites that are devoted to ways to make $$$ fast, and this ain’t one of them. My focus, now and forever, is on having fun in the game, as I see it.

Now, I do mention things here once in a while concerning making gold, Professions and stuff, because I would rather have more time to have what I think of as fun, and less time spent grinding or farming. Even though doing daily quests is a good way to consistently make money, I don’t like doing them because it requires I spend time grinding dailies that I could be spending doing fun things.

I do like farming for Ore and Herbs, though… because I love flying around mindlessly jamming to tunes, swooping in for loot and flying off. I find it relaxing. It’s almost evil, how much I enjoy just flying around swooping down on an Ore node or Herb frond, listening to music, for hours on end. Especially as a Hunter, since my pet keeps the mobs off my ass while I harvest.

But aside from my weird love of fly-farming (as opposed to fly-fishing, which just annoys me), I would rather spend my gold on things that someone else has spent their playtime getting and putting on the AH. I do not begrudge spending gold on what someone else farmed. They took the time to gather it, playtime that is quite valuable to me. They chose to spend that time farming. I didn’t make them. And since what I want is right there, at a price I can afford, and it saves me the TIME of farming it myself… well, buy it now and move along, little doggie. If the prices for items I want on the AH rise high enough that I think it’s approaching theft, ’cause it doesn’t take THAT much time to farm the bloody thing, then I’ll go get it myself. But if the price seems to me to be worth spending so I don’t waste precious game time doing my own farming, and I have the gold, then I will.

Because to me it’s not about making more money than anyone else. It’s about having enough money to do the fun things I want to do. Period.

If I have everything I want already, I don’t farm gold. Because I don’t need it. I’d rather play.

I walked into Wrath darn near flat broke, because prior to Wrath I had everything I could have possibly wanted.

Now, there are lots of things in Wrath that I’d like, for myself and for Cassie. She has a Hunter and a Rogue that need lots of epics, I have a Hunter, a Druid and a Priest that need lots of epics, and so I am actually doing things to make money… only what money I feel I need, to get what I want.

I talked yesterday about enjoying Jewelcrafting and Inscription and Engineering, because I am delighting in being able to make things we can use, the Nesingwary guns, the Mammoth Cutter ammo, the scopes, the gem cuts, the epic rings, the scrolls, and the trinkets. And those things are not just for us, but my guildies, who do not take advantage of what we can craft, but what can you do?

As soon as I had made for myself and Cassie the epic Nesingwary guns, I started sending all my spare ore to my Jewelcrafter to prospect. I have something like 14 stacks of saronite ore in the bank now, and 20 titanium bars in the bank, because my JC has at least 10 of each kind of blue gem in the bag already, so I just don’t need any more right now to provide for future guildie needs… not that guildies ever ask for cuts.

I did not sell Dragon’s Eyes on the AH until well after I got what I felt were the most critical rare gem cuts for Rogues, Druids and Hunters. I only just got the Titanium Impact Band recipe, and made one for my Hunter, and I’ve got three Dragon’s Eyes in the bank towards one for Cassie’s Rogue. Once I have made a ring for her, I’ll save tokens to get the first of the two tanking ring recipes… and make the tanking rings too. I know a few JCs that have the recipes, but why not just get them myself? I don’t really need the gold right now, and I like being able to make the stuff myself, and for anyone in the guild that needs it.

I just don’t sell ore, I don’t sell gems, I don’t sell food. I don’t sell herbs, because what I don’t use in Inscription Cassie can use to make Flasks and Pots. We use it to make stuff, and if we don’t have to make stuff, I stockpile it against the day we DO need to make stuff, and if the stockpile is big enough? Generally, I stop farming it.

What I do, is make those things I don’t need that my Professions provide, that take only a little bit of time, and sell them. The Titansteel is made every single day. I farm the ore, I farm the Eternals, I store it in advance… and after 5 days I put a stack of 5 up for 1100g. That’s free money as far as I’m concerned. Once I’ve made some epic rings, I can assure you those Dragon’s Eyes are going right back up on the AH every day. Why not? Unless a guildie needs a ring, of course.

If a guildie said to me, “Could I use your Titansteel cooldown, I’m trying to save for a such and such…” I’d just send them the Titansteel itself. I tried to do that with Falromord, and he refused to take my bars.

The gold economy is a means to an end for me, I use it to fund having fun. It’s not the end in itself.

BUT! I darn well know there are some folks who LOVE the economy game, love playing the AH, love racking up insane levels of gold.

I have absolutely nothing against it. Not at all, I can totally see the fun in it. There is a joy to be had in manipulating market conditions, buying low and reposting to fair market value, or cornering a market and posting all at high levels and watching for those that lowball, grabbing theirs as well and posting high. Lurking to see if someone will catch on and try and bust your bankroll. On our server, Bankofzerg is famous for being the controlling force behind the Alliance AH economy. Has been for years. Is he a goldseller front? Is he a machiavellian overlord of gold? Who knows? But Bankofzerg is famous simply for the percentage of AH business traffic he controls. I hear his name dropped in random conversations all the time.

I just happen to see tons of other things that, for me, are even MORE fun in the game.

I know I do not do what is smartest to make the most gold. But I do try and make what gold I need to have fun, in the shortest amount of playtime, so I have time to do other stuff.

So when I talk about stuff like this, it’s not to brag about how much money I’m making. I figure everyone has the same capability no matter what Profession they happen to have at the moment, since everyone can choose to drop a Profession that ain’t working and take something else. Lord knows I have dumped so many maxed-out professions in my time for something else, that I wish there was an Achievement for having 5 or more maxed-level Professions on one character.

Windshadow alone has been a maxed Enchanter and a maxed Tailor in Burning Crusade, a maxed Engineer (twice), a maxed Miner (three times), a maxed Herbalist (once and holding), and now almost maxed in Inscription. Six maxed Professions for one toon, and that in Burning Crusade terms.

Windstar was a Engineer once, dropped it, and is one again.

Do you know, neither my Hunter nor my Druid can make the Mote Extractor, because once you drop Engineering, you can’t do the quest that gives you that recipe again?

Fortunately, Mote Extractors don’t bind, you can mail them around your toons. Whew!

Now, I know you may not enjoy your Profession for it’s own sake, you may have it for a money making enterprise. You may expect certain things from your Profession, and in the new game, you may feel disappointed that you’re just not getting what you want out of it.

But may I humbly suggest, and this is just me talking, but if you currently have a Profession or two that you hate, that you actively despise, a Profession that has you cursing Blizzard, that has made you bitter and whose rewards seem meager and vile, a Profession that does not meet your needs in the game…


Okay, moving on.

A few thoughts on Gathering 

I mentioned yesterday that I have, amongst my two flying characters, Herbalism, Mining, and Engineering for mote farming.

I’ve talked about it before, a long time ago, but I think it bears a refresher course.

I find it convenient, when playing, to sometimes set aside time just to farm. Dedicated time spent cruising to tunes, following a routine, swoop in and grab dat Herbage, and move-move on-on.

To facilitate mindless farming, I use an entire suite of various addons, each providing me something the others cannot alone.

The litany of addons?

Cartographer (for the base map that I use, compatible with QuestHelper, Routes, and all addon marking.)
Fubar 3.5 (for easy access to my RoutesFu menu.)
GathererDB (provides a comprehensive database of all nodes of Mining and Herbs on Wowhead. Very complete. Import this into Gatherer.)
GatherMate_Data (I use the GatherMate suite of addons, with all Mining and Herbs shut off, to provide me with my updatable Cloud nodes for Engineering farming.)

Routes is a truly remarkable addon, and it still works great. It is completely compatible with Cartographer farming data, Gatherer and GatherMate. When you set up a new route in a zone, you can select exactly which data, from what addon source, you want included in the route… and then you can choose what color to make the route. You can shut some off so as not to clutter your screen or minimap, or you can make them all different colors so you can see what is what and leave them all up there. You can certainly mix and match, such as Mining and Steam Clouds for a Mining Engineer, for example.

I personally use Gatherer as my source for Mining and Herbalism node routes, because GathererDB is an incredibly complete source for nodes and I like the Gatherer interface, and GatherMate for mote Clouds since it grows it’s database and learns as you find gas clouds of your own.

I also go into each addon and turn off node marking, since the route lines themselves serve as markers for me. I have found that with so many addons, sometimes the node markers can actually obscure the golden dot of the node itself. Slows ya down, trying to figure out if that is really a node there or not on the map. Can’t be having with that!


As you can see from the picture I’m using as an example, I have three routes setup in Sholozar. I have a green route for farming Adder’s Tongue, a red route for Steam and Fire Clouds, and a light blue route for Ore.

See? Isn’t that awesome? A nice route right there on your minimap that you can use to follow and look for nodes.

Now, you might ask yourself, “Isn’t he shooting himself in the foot by posting this? Isn’t he afraid of more competition?”

Well, no, I don’t think so.

And that brings us to talking about you, my readers. The few, the proud… the demented.

First, for one thing, ain’t that many folks read this blog. I mean, c’mon, it’s nice to think so, but there are a lot of servers, and the chances that more than 3 or 4 people on any one server read this blog are fairly remote, I’d think. You’re not gonna crush an economy by sharing gathering tips with 3 or 4 folks on a server.

For the other thing, I have noticed that I have two main groups of folks that seem to read my blog.

The majority of readers are incredibly nice, come from all walks of life, and mostly seem to have two common bonds; a love for and enthusiasm for the game, and an appreciation for the same weird sense of what passes for humor around here as I have.

Druid love is optional 🙂

Then there is the other group. The ones that come here to bitch about theorycrafting and jump on my and anyone else’s mistakes in comments, and stroke their own egos. I keep hoping they’ll leave us alone, to be honest. And with my not posting a ton of theorycrafting, with my leaving WoW Insider so as to stop drawing some of the immature fanbase they seem to cherish and nuture in their comments in the quest for greater pagehits, I think that group has begun to die out.

See, I think of those of you who have stuck with the blog as my friends, peers, fun folks to hang with and geek out together and generally feel free to be just as flaky as me. Not, as some people seem to think, as master and servant, teacher and student. No, you are fellow travelers along the road of geekdom. I ain’t here to educate, just to share and write and have fun.

Because that’s what we are, fellow travelers sharing our joy and enthusiasm for the game. I don’t write for ANYONE except you.

I try not to be judgmental on any aspect of the game we play. I’m judgmental on lots of stuff, but not on that. And there is a good reason for that.

Everyone’s got different interests, different backgrounds, different priorities, different ways of enjoying playing the game. I don’t see any of them as being inherently better than the others, or having more validity or being more important aspects of the game. Some undoubtedly take more effort, preparation or time commitments than others. But time is something that some folks don’t have available for such things. It does not mean that people who DO spend the time are better than those who do not, or vice versa. Not to me. They are both just playing the game as their lifestyle and interests permit them to. Period. Raiders, no, I do NOT think your playstyle is more special or important than roleplayers. Nor do I think that you are better players than those with a more casual playstyle. You may think so, but I do not share that opinion. Nor do I think that people who love PvP are less important or deserve less respect than people focused on PvE. Nor do I think people on PvP servers are more leet than those on PvE servers. It’s not better, it’s just a different emphasis on aspects of the same game.

And no, I do not think that those people who spend hours on theorycrafting the math behind why things work in the game are special or better than other folks, or smarter either. OMIGOD, not in the slightest. Because in truth, anyone can do so. There is nothing unique in the ability to manipulate numbers. It takes time to gather data, a definite investment in time and effort, and I appreciate those who make that effort to share some guidance on how things work, and choose to provide tips based on research to help folks that have not made that effort to better succeed in the game. I just don’t think doing it makes someone better or smarter than other players, thank you very much. The majority of people that play a video game for entertainment just choose not to spend hours gathering data and doing maths. That’s not part of the playstyle they enjoy. Some folks do; again, everyone enjoys different parts of the game.

I do laugh hilariously at folks that make calculated assumptions, known in professional circles as scientific wild ass guesses (or SWAGs), and then spend time deriving detailed mathematical models for how things will change based on those SWAGs… and then rant about it. It’s a subset of the genre that really amuses the living heck out of me. Yes, I am petty in this regard. It’s a weakness, a defect in character I choose not to work on.

But I don’t judge people based on what kind of game, what kind of playstyle they enjoy. Why the heck would I?

I just judge people based on how they treat other people, on how they act. I reserve the right to rant at those I personally perceive to be asshats all day long, but never on how you like to play the game.

When I had the pleasure to meet some readers last November, I asked what they enjoyed doing in the game the most… not to judge them, or to decide who to talk to. I wanted to know because I only play a narrow part of the game, and I love talking to people that play different parts of the game I never experience. It’s fun. It’s geeking out on enthusiasm for the game, and I love it.  

Those are the readers I love, the readers I try and encourage, the vast majority of kick-ass nice folks I wish I got more of a chance to chat with in the comments and via email.

You know, the folks who are probably only reading this blog while at work, over a lunch break in between webcomics, and comment from work, and when they get home are too busy actually doing stuff and having fun to post a comment.

God bless you, keep it up. 🙂

Anyway, I think we’re alone now. There doesn’t seem to be anyone around. I think we’re alone now… the beating of my heart… Gah! Okay, hold on, gotta get that song out of my head…. /cry. Quick, someone cue up some Ramones, I wanna be sedated after that.

There. Sorry.

Now, with this blog being, essentially, as asshat-free a zone as I can possibly make it and still have a free flowing exchange of ideas…

You’re my friends. OF COURSE I want my friends to get the most benefit out of their farming time. Of course I do! What am I, Ebeneezer McDuck over here? Hoarding the Ore and Herbs? Mine! Mine, I tell you!

Nah, I want you to go out there and farm what you want to farm, as efficiently and quickly as possible, so you can get it done and move on to playing! And if the farming happens to be what you like best, well, you probably already use those addons and far, far more.

Just do me a favor, and don’t go broadcasting it to the heavens. See, the gold farmers undoubtedly already know all about it, but maybe that jerk that wants to fight you for each and every single Titanium node, whether you have already started mining it or not, doesn’t.

So instead, just share the addons with your friends, and make sure everyone you know that’s a friend of yours is getting the most out of their gathering professions, and do your bit to compete with the goldfarmers on a level playing field. And hope that the Titanium node jerkoff doesn’t know about that sweet mining spot in Icecrown where you always find that one overlooked node.

Have fun, and I’ll see you in game!


22 thoughts on “Professions, Gathering revisited, and idle rambling

  1. Oh, Scrooge MacDuck, how I love thee.

    And I already use Gather Mate (and associated database) for the engineering parts, but I do actually like it for my other nodes depending upon what toon I’m on at said time. (Also, they track my Everfrost Crystals (under treasure) in Storm Peaks. Just visit the nodes instead of spending hours upon hours trying to find one crystal to raise my Hodir rep). I never really could get into Gatherer–just seemed too hard to figure out. But maybe I’ll give it another try after this entry.

    Keep it up B3!


  2. “I do like farming for Ore and Herbs, though… because I love flying around mindlessly jamming to tunes, swooping in for loot and flying off. I find it relaxing. It’s almost evil, how much I enjoy just flying around swooping down on an Ore node or Herb frond, listening to music, for hours on end.”

    What I want to know is: do you make the barnstorming airplane noise as you swoop? Me, I like to get right over it in Epic FF and dive bomb in proclaiming MMMMMMMRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOWWWWWWRRRRRRRRMMMM as I arrive. I do it loud enough to scare my cats out of the room. 🙂

    Seriously though, thanks for this post and the tips. Route is the coolest add on I have seen in a long time and I am looking forward to using it.



  3. What do you mean druid love isn’t required? No one should be allowed to play WoW without at some point experiencing (and loving) the feel of playing what I refer to as my “stinky drood” ^^

    Got to say I’m not sure where to take him, I like tanking but don’t feel my gear will ever be good enough to warrent taking him over a warrior or paladin, trying healing atm but getting a decent SP set to start is taking longer than I’d like… probably end up as a Boomkin, I’ve had my share of being feral dps and I admit my damage is always better as a caster than a melee, my rogue is living proof 😛


  4. Routes seems interesting…
    I’ll almost definatly start using it, as soon as I can find my wireless connection. I’ll probably get someone else to find it for me. It seems very helpful for my main, as he has always had 2 gathering professions.

    Great post tho, and Merry New Year.


  5. BBB you are definately the reason I keep my Druid as my main. I have enjoyed your blog immensely. Asshats begone. Enjoy the game and enjoy the New Year.


  6. *looks around* This place looks familiar…

    I even see some familiar faces (even if one of ’em is an orc). So I’ll resist the temptation to asshat around, and just say…Happy New Year, BBB!


  7. I very much enjoyed reading your blog. I have an 80 druid and play him feral, balance and resto (when my guildies can convince me it would be worth my while to spend hours staring at the left side of my screen.) I find it sad when gear gets nerfed. I have heard a rumor the Titansteel Guardian is going to get nerfed becuase of its’ spell power. But it has no mana or spirit on it and very little crit so why nerf it? Why can’t we be allowed to chose between a piece of gear with spell power alone or one with less spell power and other stats. My feeling is when they nerf gear they are forcing us to follow very few if only one path to getting gear for end game raiding. I have always felt that there should be three paths, crafted, pve and pvp to get gear and all three should be able to provide gear adeqate for end game raiding. Something shouldn’t get nerfied because its better than something that drops in Naxx. The more varied the experience the better. I personally also believe that all of the best stuff in the game should be crafted. Hey, make it really hard to craft and maybe even make crafted gear highly durable but with declining ability to repair so it only lasts for so long. I love this game though I think Blizzard could put more thought into it and providing an equally rewarding experience for all types of players.
    So that being said, I am very frustrated with the unequal abilities of players. Retribution Pally’s? Lock’s? It seems that no matter how well I gear or how often I try different way to play, I find I am frequetly on the losing end. I am accepting that it could be me not reacting well enough but when you hear so many making the same complaints…. I believe the toons should be like NASCAR or Formual One racers, the cars are all very similar in ability but it depends on who’s driving the vehicle for the win. All toons in similar level gear should have 50/50 chance of a pvp win given equally talented players. Doesn’t seem like this should be too hard to do for a company pulling in over 100 million dollars a month at least in revenues.
    And hey, I like farming, maybe not as much as you, but it’s nice to step away from other stuff and take a few spins around Sholozar Basin for ore and hopefully not coming across any ret pallys while I’m at it.


  8. I havent played in about a year, and I still read regularly. I’ve known BBB long enough to appreciate his sense of humor, and the many suggestions for reading and listening. Keep it up


  9. The addons are quite nice indeed…

    although I gotta say I enjoyed getting to herb nodes in the Basin before those fancy epic flyer people… however the catch was I was 76… so no flight form. I’m an underdog in all of it 🙂

    However tapping mines that someone’s on is just low… same with stealing nodes from people fighting mobs… unless their horde 🙂 (I call it economic warfare). It doesn’t help that a healthy chunk of horde on Hellscream are ashats though.


  10. Is it terrible that I want to take that awesome route and exploit the heck out of it… just on a different server?

    …then again, I’d have to actually subscribe to the game and catch up. By the time I did that, we’ll be looking at WoW2 or what have you. *shrug*

    BBB, this place is almost like Cheers for me… except I’m the extra guy that nobody knows the name of, and you and Rats are a twisted version of Cliff and Norm. I mean that in the best way possible.


  11. Thanks for all you do, 3B! I’m proud to be a member of the Sidhe Devils, which I feel has got to be the best guild on the server, for the “I’m playing this game to have fun with other people” crowd. ^_^
    I’m still kinda on the fence, but I think this may have pushed me over to the “Drop enchanting, it’s taking up an extra slot” side, where I’ll probably be taking Herbalism, to complement my Inscription. (Plus, I’ll get to stop mooching extra herbs off Twai. :p )


  12. Its funny. I use all those addons mentioned for gathering. But I’m calling dibs on Bladefist server. That means nobody can use the above mentioned techniques :). Anyways I have an Inscriptionist/Herbalist. And for money I just farm herbs like crazy. Yesterday, had milled enough herbs in 2 hours of farming for 2 Darkmoon cards. Made 2, got 1 Nobles card. Nobles card was a double, so I sold it in AH, currently 1k gold, forgot the other one, but it sold for 400g. So 2 hours of farming, made 1400g. 700g/hour, I’ll take that over dailys any day of the week. And I’m with you BBB, I like to have fun while I play, so those 2 hours spent last night grabbing herbs, will keep me set on repairs and the likes for a week or two, and then back to herbing.

    Great guide tho, I’m sure your addons are going to be new to alot of people. Everyone in my guild with a gathering profession is using Routes after I told them about it, and I dont think they will ever give it up.

    Love your blog! Keep up the good work!


  13. Thank you for a very entertaining read. I am rather inspired by tales of bankozerg. I should learn to take more risks. I get a huge kick out of working the AH. I had the laugh at the swaggers. My theory is they get bored way before most of us, because they’re smart, they play a lot, and are in a top guild. Thus, there’s nothing to do but appear to be intelligent and garner a little respect by doing so… Most of the time, I wont get a straight answer if I ask “why is this relevant?” It reminds me of, I dunno ufology or witchcraft.

    Will try your routing addons I think, tyvm. With my current voracious appetite for icethorn & lichbloom (Im determined to mill my way to a darkmoon card) I need to pick up the pace. Oh, also saw a video on tankspot about a great mob aoe grinding area. Just go to icecrown 59, 74 & grind away. Not sure how much its worth – gonna try tonight.

    Oh, and ferals should try soloing onyxia every time she resets if you want a new way to farm pure gold. Its a novelty blast, very easy for a lvl 80, and she drops 150-200g, plus ~15g bops and ~40g of boe’s. Just stay bear, cast frenzied regen now and again. If you’re desperate you can use a healing touch. Takes ~20 mins


  14. Hey man, nice read. Boy, you really nailed my persona. I blog from work when I can and post comments from work as well. When I get home, I’m just too busy having fun doing other things. Not that I didn’t listen to your Podcast with the BRK from home. I did do that but I consider it having fun!!!

    Anyway, thanks for your blog. I do look forward to new postings and enjoy reading it. Lots o good info here for my casual druid. 🙂


  15. That was a really refreshing post. Its good to see that there is at least one person who still has respect other players, even though their game play may be wildly different. It gets old hearing people criticize each other because they have different goals or different levels of commitment to the game. I raid casually with my guild; often there will be criticism from other players I group with for not already being geared in full tier 7 gear, but I also hear how I commit too much time to a “stupid game.” Somedays it seems like you just can’t win.

    Thank you for the gathering addon recommendations! Though I already have my favorite places to farm, this will make farming them much more efficient.


  16. 3b… I FREAKING LOVE YOUR BLOG. I am one of the dedicated (work time) readers, and recently decided that I might actively particpate (by posting) As a new player you (and your site) have been a fountain of wisdom, even though I don’t play a feral druid (tree right now…) I hope I can fall in that group that doesn’t want to make you tear your hair out! Keep up the great work man (and Cassie too!!!)

    PS… hope you won’t be mad if my boss sends you a bill for the countless hours I have spent “working” while reading your blog… I just have to read it!


  17. I have a very similar feeling on the farming vs. buying off the AH. When I have gold (which is most of the time) I just buy what I need. When I’m poor (like after I blow all my gold enchanting my new healing set getting ready for dual specs), I farm what I need.

    A few weeks ago I happened to need some eternal fires, and knew a little cave in storm peaks that was a farming heaven. This is when they were selling for over 50 gold a piece, and I didn’t have enough money to buy all that I needed. So I proceed to go in to the cave. A horde warrior is farming the front, no big deal I say, I’ll hit the back. Then I see that two alliance pallies are farming the back. That sounds like a good way to get killed several times to me, so I move to the middle/front of the cave and start killing little glowing things.

    The warrior, who must have been making his way to the middle states that “I’m ****ing up his farming”, and tells me not to kindly to leave. I state that just maybe, he is the one effing up MY farming. Then I go on about my business. Undeterred, he states he was here before me, and has been here for four hours strait. And that I need to go away. Again, not very nicely. I respond that if he has been here four hours, he probably has enough for what ever he needs. And I go on about my business, and go a little more towards the front of the cave when I can.

    Now, I don’t gank allies needlessly (most of the time), I don’t steal peoples farming spots intentionally, and I try to act like anybody I interact with could easily look me up in real life, even though they can’t. Basically I try to act as nice in game as I do in real life. Those are all real people behind those little pixels don’t ya know.

    But this guy was an a-hole. I tried to leave him an equal amount of space that I had, but since I was cutting into his gold per hour he was pissed. Unlucky for him, I had a guildie on his way to me to pick up a piece of armor I made for him, and another in the area. So I asked both to come in and help me farm. I suppose I stooped to his level by doing this (possibly below his level) but I just can’t stand how people feel that they can act in such a way to complete stranger. You want to treat me like that? Well sir, I’m not kind to people like you, and my whole guild will be farming here in YOUR cave until I tell them to stop.

    Funny thing, I would have been far more accommodating and went somewhere else if he had just asked nicely. Maybe not told me to eff off. And I told him so. He responded by leaving.


  18. Indeed. All the girls still want to sit on Uncle Ratshag’s lap. 😉

    I did not realize you have left wowinsider, but I read you before I read them, and I’ll continue to do so. You are one of the people that straddles the fence of playing casually/having a life outside wow and raiding, and you seem to do it well. I like reading about how you find your balance, and sometimes it helps me with mine.


  19. 3B as always a enjoyable read. I choose to decline your wonderful offer thinking that someone who couldnt easily obtain the titansteel might need it. Your dissertations are always a enjoyable part of my wow routine and am thankful that I get to be one of lucky ones that happen to be in your (our) guild. If the e-peen gang is around that aint a stroke just the truth we may not be the most advanced guild on the sever but I’m pretty sure we are one of the good ones. good people good fun and good leaders all things that make playing this game a joy, and hell its a game it should be fun. Also you were gonna pull sheena’s punk card and you have i think we alone now in your head hmmm old age must be setting in. As always my friend I see ya later in game and to anyone who reads the comments have a nive happy and safe new year.


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